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Alli - this is from their website. Really.

I wish I could highlight some of these - note the recommendation to "wear dark pants"

What are treatment effects?

alli™ works by preventing the absorption of some of the fat you eat. The fat passes out of your body, so you may have bowel changes, known as treatment effects. You may get:

· gas with oily spotting

· loose stools

· more frequent stools that may be hard to control

What to expect

The excess fat that passes out of your body is not harmful. In fact, you may recognize it as something that looks like the oil on top of a pizza. Eating a low-fat diet lowers the chance of these bowel changes. Limit fat intake in your meals to an average of 15 grams.

Learn more about following a reduced-calorie, low-fat diet.

Learning how to manage treatment effects is an important part of being successful with alli. Here's how to take control:

· Start trimming fat from your diet now, even before you begin taking alli. Then pick a day to begin taking alli, such as a weekend day so you can stay close to home if you experience a treatment effect. Make the timing work for you. If you're getting ready to travel or attend a social event, hold off on starting with alli until the event is over

· While no one likes experiencing treatment effects, they might help you think twice about eating questionable fat content. If you think of it like that, alli can act like a security guard for your late-night cravings

· You can't "save fat grams" from lunch and "spend them" at dinner. Spread your daily fat gram allowance of 15 grams on average per meal over the whole day

· You may feel an urgent need to go to the bathroom. Until you have a sense of any treatment effects, it's probably a smart idea to wear dark pants, and bring a change of clothes with you to work

· You may not usually get gassy, but it's a possibility when you take alli. The bathroom is really the best place to go when that happens

· You can use a food journal to recognize what foods can lead to treatment effects. For example, writing down what you eat may help you learn that marinara sauce is a better option than Alfredo sauce

To learn more about how myalliplan can guide you with smarter food choices and a wealth of resources, visit myalliplan now.

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I can't believe that they expect us to pay for this. When will we learn!!!!! Every diet pill, aid, gadget I have fallen for that promises dramatic weight loss also states that you MUST follow a calorie restricted eating plan and exercise program. Never has any of these diet aids helped to curb my appetite for more than a few days....its almost as if you grow an immunity to them, and quickly.

Save your money people....they are all gimmicks with a capital G.

Carol

Big Pharma has its place and, yes, they make medicine that we all take and need, not to mention the Lapband. But that does not mean that they don't overcharge for that medication and continue to rely on agressive marketing campaigns to promote these often overpriced drugs. Whether we need a product that someone makes or not does not justify the excessive cost. Let's not forget that they are a BUSINESS. I'm not saying that everyone who works for Big Pharma is a money-hungry monster, but to insinuate that their prices are reasonable and that they are out there to solely to save lives isn't really looking at the big picture.

Indeed........ maybe someone works for Big Pharma ?? :paranoid

Treatment Effects. Wonder who thought that one up? Can't you just hear the talk around the conference table??

"Ok, people! Our task for today is to come up with a palatable word for the slimey orange oil that is discharged from your anus when you use this stuff! Barney? Got any ideas? How about you Claire? Bob?"

Barney: "How about 'squeezins'"?

Claire: "Metabolic Products"?

Bob: "Lube"?

.........what a vision.

OMG I love "Squeezins"! LOL!

Indeed........ maybe someone works for Big Pharma ?? :paranoid

No I don't work for a Big Pharma company. I think insurance companies get a bad rap too but I don't work for one of them either.

To the previous poster, yes, it is a business. Just like your doctor. However, no one is saying the "Big Doctors" are only doing surgery for money -but they are. What's the difference? Why isn't anyone outraged at "Big Doctors"? It's not illegal or immoral in America to make money. Let's not forget that.

And how do we know if something is overpriced? Do we know how much research money they spent? How much it costs to pay their employees? How much it costs for raw materials, patents, lawyers, manufacturing, etc?

I don't disagree with you about the ads though. Just don't think lawyers or pharmaceuticals should be on TV. Just an opinion though.

Treatment Effects. Wonder who thought that one up? Can't you just hear the talk around the conference table??

"Ok, people! Our task for today is to come up with a palatable word for the slimey orange oil that is discharged from your anus when you use this stuff! Barney? Got any ideas? How about you Claire? Bob?"

Barney: "How about 'squeezins'"?

Claire: "Metabolic Products"?

Bob: "Lube"?

.........what a vision.

:faint:LMFAO....:faint:

No I don't work for a Big Pharma company. I think insurance companies get a bad rap too but I don't work for one of them either.

To the previous poster, yes, it is a business. Just like your doctor. However, no one is saying the "Big Doctors" are only doing surgery for money -but they are. What's the difference? Why isn't anyone outraged at "Big Doctors"? It's not illegal or immoral in America to make money. Let's not forget that.

And how do we know if something is overpriced? Do we know how much research money they spent? How much it costs to pay their employees? How much it costs for raw materials, patents, lawyers, manufacturing, etc?

I don't disagree with you about the ads though. Just don't think lawyers or pharmaceuticals should be on TV. Just an opinion though.

Insurance companies do get a bad rap....my husband works for Blue Cross (who would NOT pay for my band by the way) and they put alot of their profits back into research making a better product to offer their customer etc....i'm sure their CEO makes a nice salary and all, but the average worker makes a decent living, but they have to contribute towards their own insurance policy...nothing is free anymore now is it?:omg:

HA LOL that is hysterical!!! I'm sitting here downunder killing myself, which is a tall order on day 13 of optifast!!!

TerriDoodle,

Your post made me laugh out loud. Great way to start my day. Thank you. (I think I've lost my yen for pizza, though...)

Ain't THAT the truth!! When the family is sitting around eating a pizza, I'll try to envision "treatment effects".....or what is otherwise fondly known as "squeezins". That ought to take care of any notion I have of eating it!:tired

Gee, I remember those "effects" when taking xenical! Wonder if it's the same thing! BTW, I'll pb every day for the rest of my life before I'll have an "oil spill" from taking that stuff! LOL!

I took Xenical, and it's a great drug, primarily a behavior modification tool, and I lost 65 lbs in about 8-9 months. Ended up having two fairly major health issues, which kept me from being able to move around, and of course, with no exercise I gained the weight back, and here I am. As far as the drug, it's a very useful tool, not a miracle drug. It's much like a band- it is as good as the person using it permits it to be. (and yes you can eat some fat, just not tons of it- if you watch the amount you never have the "oily discharge", but screw up..and EWWWWWWWWWW.

I had to come back and say you are a genius, TerriDoodle! I've been laughing to myself for 2 days now. I told my husband about "squeezins" and he was cracking up (we've both been on Xenical). We went out with friends for dinner and I ordered fish, he got Pasta and our friends got pizza. My hubby said out loud "Wow, that pizza's got a lot of squeezins on it" and our friend said "I know! Doesn't it look yummy?" We were both on the floor! Our other friend was like "what?" We just changed the subject and went on with dinner but in the car we laughed all the way home.

You belong in the hall of fame!

No I don't work for a Big Pharma company. I think insurance companies get a bad rap too but I don't work for one of them either.

To the previous poster, yes, it is a business. Just like your doctor. However, no one is saying the "Big Doctors" are only doing surgery for money -but they are. What's the difference? Why isn't anyone outraged at "Big Doctors"? It's not illegal or immoral in America to make money. Let's not forget that.

And how do we know if something is overpriced? Do we know how much research money they spent? How much it costs to pay their employees? How much it costs for raw materials, patents, lawyers, manufacturing, etc?

I don't disagree with you about the ads though. Just don't think lawyers or pharmaceuticals should be on TV. Just an opinion though.

I agree that insurance companies take advantage of everyone. My insurance company wouldn't have paid for my band if I had a BMI of 98, I paid for my surgery out of pocket.

You ask very good questions. How do we know something is overpriced? Being that pharmaceutical companies don't publish their accounting records (or at least that I can find) we really don't know for sure. But we can make educated guesses. Everything that we buy is marked up -- e.g. the iPod only costs about $150 to make, but Apple sells it for $300+. As an electronics company, making something that no one needs, they can charge whatever they want. Anyone who wants to pay $5000 for a handbag with a name brand on it can do as they please and I don't care if Prada charges that much for their product since it's a luxury item that we can all live without.

But when a phamarceutical company produces, say, a prescription medication for lowering cholesterol that can save your life and they place a 20 year patent on it and charge you hundreds of dollars for it I somehow have a difficult time believing that it cost them that much money to make it. The clearest evidence of this is generic drugs -- why is it that when a patent runs out and the generic is produced, the cost of the drug decreases dramatically? Is the drug made from different materials? I don't think so.

Lastly, have you noticed how many name-brand drugs are out there for lowering cholesterol? For helping acid reflux? For depression? For sleep? What's the common thread here? These are all drugs that need to be taken daily, maybe for the rest of your life. When was the last time a pharmaceutical company came out with a new antibiotic? Everyone freaked out about the guy with TB who flew across the world, but the truth is, if pharmaceutical companies spent more time developing new drugs to address temporary illnesses such as TB that have morphed into stronger strains and less time coming up with a new pill to treat erectile dysfunction, maybe they could address some other medical problems in the world. Big Pharma would rather create a "new" name brand drug that barely differs from Lipitor, so that they can make money from people who take it every day than create new drugs to battle occasional sickness.

I'll get off my soapbox now. I just wanted to get that off my chest. :)

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