i got my band in 2011.my band didnt work....i lost 6kg in the first month and then nothing....now the band has eroded.

i want to go for sleeve. but will I loose weight? will it be a waste again? Its a major surgery,not reversible.

I do want to go for it. I am praying it works.

Guess every surgery is individual with every individual. If I were you I'd probably go to the sleeve forum and ask questions there because there are those over there who hae had band to sleeve revisions.

Will your insurance pay for all of it? Some insurances will not. I would check on this.

Best wishes

I guess it would depend on why your band didn't work for you. Were you compliant with your diet and did you exercise? Perhaps you should address this question to your doctor, he or she has your history and can best answer this for you. Best wishes

thanks...i know why it failed...I dodnt exercise,hardly visited the doctor,dint follow their diet either.the doctor is far away.

its totally my fault....but I will be in touch with my doc this time.

You can eat around the sleeve just as you can with the band... If you do not put the hard work in you will not see results no matter what surgery you get...

food for thought,

http://www.bariatricpal.com/topic/292173-you-should-not-consider-bariatric-surgery-if/#entry3294618

thanks...i know why it failed...I dodnt exercise,hardly visited the doctor,dint follow their diet either.the doctor is far away. its totally my fault....but I will be in touch with my doc this time.

yes...i have been thinking I was smart and followed my own diet...rarely exercised...but now I am wiser...I dont have a lot to loose...I am 86kg...but I do want to loose 20 kg...and be fit and healthy in my old age.

I would encourage you to try and follow the sleeve diet and exercise recommendations for at least 6 months before getting the surgery, you may not lose weight but it will help you identify if you are ready for those lifestyle changes. If you find you can't follow the nutrition guidelines or fit in the time for exercise that would be a good indicator you're not ready for the surgery yet.

BTW I would give this same advice to anyone considering any type of WLS.

You can eat around the sleeve just as you can with the band... If you do not put the hard work in you will not see results no matter what surgery you get...

food for thought,

http://www.bariatricpal.com/topic/292173-you-should-not-consider-bariatric-surgery-if/#entry3294618

All the veteran banders should read her thread! The more I read the other WLS forums, the more I realize that the problems that I see here have nothing to do with the band, but everything to do with what people expect from any WLS. Turns out the sleeve veterans get the same complaints about being "Mean" as the Banders who tell people to follow their Dr's orders.

thanks but what is the sleeve diet...anything different from the band diet???

I'm not sure about the band diet.. But with the sleeve success comes from eating a Protein and veggie dense diet. This is where some people run into problems.. they try to rely solely on the sleeve to lose the weight..

It's all about choices. As I always say "that sleeve isn't going to jump out of your stomach and slap that shit out of your hand"

We get lots of newbies that call themselves rebels or post things like "I know this is going to piss some people off" they then go into this whole thing about how they eat the same crappy things but just "tiny" amounts "hehehehe"..

Usually these people are in the first couple of months into their sleeve. We refer to this has the "honeymoon" period.

In the first six months the stomach is unbelievably small! It's still healing from the massive trauma and is irritated and swollen. Them bam 6 months hit and it relaxes to its true state (still incredibly small but bigger than a egg) this is where the lifetime of work comes in.. You see, I get full off of dense protein but like the rest of the vets? Junk food, crap or as we call them "slider" foods, we can eat a ton of!

Yep just like the band you can eat around the sleeve.

So it's up to you, what you put in your mouth.

This is not a cure, we must still have willpower and some self control.

thanks but what is the sleeve diet...anything different from the band diet???

"That sleeve isn't going to jump out of your stomach and slap that **** out of your hand."

That may be the funniest and truest statement I've ever read on this forum. Lol. Love it. I may have to use that in the future. I will try to credit you. Lol.

Lol, yep you can interchange it with band too!

Disclaimer;

Not everyone finds it funny though.. Especially when directed towards them

I'm not sure about the band diet.. But with the sleeve success comes from eating a protein and veggie dense diet. This is where some people run into problems.. they try to rely solely on the sleeve to lose the weight.. It's all about choices. As I always say "that sleeve isn't going to jump out of your stomach and slap that **** out of your hand" We get lots of newbies that call themselves rebels or post things like "I know this is going to piss some people off" they then go into this whole thing about how they eat the same crappy things but just "tiny" amounts "hehehehe".. Usually these people are in the first couple of months into their sleeve. We refer to this has the "honeymoon" period. In the first six months the stomach is unbelievably small! It's still healing from the massive trauma and is irritated and swollen. Them bam 6 months hit and it relaxes to its true state (still incredibly small but bigger than a egg) this is where the lifetime of work comes in.. You see, I get full off of dense protein but like the rest of the vets? Junk food, crap or as we call them "slider" foods, we can eat a ton of! Yep just like the band you can eat around the sleeve. So it's up to you, what you put in your mouth. This is not a cure, we must still have willpower and some self control.

That's the band diet too. Sounds like the same rules apply.

In the lap band veteran forum ive read that no ones following any particular diet plan, but eating whatever their band tolerates.

Was your band not filled tight enough to limit your food intake?

I have the worst junk food habit & ive not been able to kick it, even with the band.

But im tight enough now where it is impossible to eat an entire can of Pringles in one sitting the way I would at any other fill level less than 7.5.

And when my real clean foods are too dry to go down i turn to Sliders. shakes Ice Cream and anything my band "tolerates" and ive lost 7lbs this week doing so

In the lap band veteran forum ive read that no ones following any particular diet plan, but eating whatever their band tolerates.

Was your band not filled tight enough to limit your food intake?

I have the worst junk food habit & ive not been able to kick it, even with the band.

But im tight enough now where it is impossible to eat an entire can of Pringles in one sitting the way I would at any other fill level less than 7.5.

And when my real clean foods are too dry to go down i turn to Sliders. shakes Ice Cream and anything my band "tolerates" and ive lost 7lbs this week doing so

I think you may be misunderstanding what we veterans are saying when we don't follow a diet. Those of us with the larger gains consistently talk about the importance of nutrition over diet. I've had to boost my Protein intake alot since getting the band and if I don't eat the right foods for nutrition then I tend to eat more slider foods which I could do at first and still lose weight but as I'm nearing the 1 year mark I don't shed pounds just because I eat less than I used to I also need to pay attention to what I eat.

But I wouldn't call it a "diet" because it isn't about restricting what I eat so much as making better choices about what I eat.