Okay, I'm a fairy patient kind of girl. If i see someone in need, I will duly assist in any way possible. That is my nature.

However, there are limits to this...

Something is really getting on my proverbial mammary glands and I just have to put it out there... Before I 'go to town' on someone....

What am I referring to?

The indomitable, self-indulgent, totally out of proportion whinging on this website.

What kind of whinging, I hear you cry?! Well, it's not the general and often valid complaints, concerns and outpourings of confusion related to WLS. Which, lets face, it, we all have for time to time... Or even the posts that deviate from being WLS related and are either observations on life or genuine cries for help.

It's the 'OMG, I ate some fresh air!!!!! <swing your head back whilst placing your wrist on your forehead in a swooning fashion>

'I am going to have to flagellate myself for the rest of my natural born life because I ate a cracker with cheese spread on it!'

'I ate a mouthful of cream-cheese frosting, I hate myself' - then cue the over-exaggerated 'depression' and attention-seeking mewing because someone, in a 'moment of madness' <raises an eyebrow> didn't reach for a Protein shake or Quest bar.

Now, before I get lambasted for not being 'sympathetic' and being told in a lofty and self-righteous way that 'not everyone is as strong as other people and they just need some gentle encouragement'.. What I am going to say to that right now and up front is 'BALLS!'

So someone ate something with 15g of carbs, 11g of sugar and little protein. SO WHAT?!!! If you're clever enough to work out that these aren't good nutritional ratios, then you're smart enough to know that you shouldn't be eating it. So get some perspective, be objective, dust yourself off and carry on. Don't take up my visual space with your whinges that do no more than to advertise your bordering on infantile attention seeking ways...

If you make a habit of making bad food choices when you know the nutritional values - then frankly, you're an idiot. If you're having serious addiction issues - then that's a WHOLE different ball game and there's not a person on the planet that won't do all they can (within the limits of this medium and geography) to help.

Just to those who want to curry sympathy and 'collect' platitudinous pats on the back for being self-indulgent whinge-bags - over very little - all I have to say is just hope I don't come across those particular posts. The response won't be pretty.....

And for the smug ones who are undoubtedly going to say 'Well, you don't have to read them.. You can just skip past them..tra-la-la-la' I say BALLS to that too. Attention seekers have a habit of making their topic titles sound very 'life or death'. Having the concept of 'duty of care' bashed into my head for years, I feel obliged to read them. But no sooner do I get to the second sentence, I discover its been written by 'one of those types' and the rage subsequently builds...

So my rant to 'those types' and in summary is;

Do, please, and before I turn green, shut up!!!

<and relax...>

A little early for the combative stage (that usually hits 4 weeks post op)

This surgery is not a cure.. (Duh)

In fact it can be a major head game sometimes. As for bad choices? I guess you can call us all idiots because that's what got us here..

I cannot wax poetic like you, so I won't try. But falling off of the wagon eating a carb laden food is the beginning of the end for some.. It's really hard to know by just reading a post and forming an opinion about it.

Power. I felt I had none when it came to food. I am not an idiot, but no matter what the diet or the therapy my food consumption was beyond my control most days.

Control, I have a shaky grasp on it now.. My hands are tired and weak at the moment..

One taste, one bite.....taste, comfort, relaxing, friend. The hole is there, it is waiting to be filled. I am ( inset months) I am not cured the draw is strong.

I'm happy for those of you that have it all figured out though...

LV - it's not combative. It's an observation of what gets on my nerves. As for your personal issues, please see above where I wrote:

'if you're having serious addiction issues - then that's a WHOLE different ball game and there's not a person on the planet that won't do all they can (within the limits of this medium and geography) to help.'

With reference to: 'falling off of the wagon eating a carb laden food is the beginning of the end for some.. It's really hard to know by just reading a post and forming an opinion about it. '

It is easy to form an opinion when someone is whinging about one cracker and have form for attention-seeking whinging. If they said 'I have eaten a whole packet and keep going back for more', it changes the game.

I'm sorry you have a food addition. As I said above, it's no picnic and there's not a person out there that wouldn't help. But I think it is very evident when people are being self-indulgent. Self-indulgent in their eating and self-indulgent in their coveting of sympathy on this website.

As for 'having it all figured out'. As I said above: 'If you're clever enough to work out that these aren't good nutritional ratios, then you're smart enough to know that you shouldn't be eating it. ' If I recognise that is becoming tough for me to do - I'll be looking for psychotherapy. Not for platitudinal 'pats on the back' from unknowns...

Control, I have a shaky grasp on it now.. My hands are tired and weak at the moment..

I don't think there is one of us that are out of the zealous I will be different and I don't understand what people are thinking stage...I will just give it to them straight stage...Does not feel like you! I love how you put it..shaky grasp!

LOL. OK Ms. Crankypants, thanks for saying what most of us think at times. Patience is a commodity often in short supply; sometimes I can read those kinds of posts and respond gently and kindly. Other times I need to roll my eyes so hard I fear they'll come loose, go flying across the floor, and the dog will eat them.

And I ate a few grape tomatoes last night because I couldn't eat another bite of shrimp, I'm a complete failure as always, the sun stopped shining (really, I'm in Seattle!), and locusts fell from the sky.

I'm sorry you have a food addition.

Food "addition" I like that.. yes I guess on a bad day I add more and more food..

I guess we all have different reasons for having this surgery. I cannot tell what a persons motivation is when they post in distress sometimes.. I guess I'm not clever enough?

By the way you are my role model too...

I am day 18. I have had.. (wait for it)' date=' a cupcake, half a cheese burger, two vodka Water and apple-juices, 5 mini cocktail sausages, toast with ham and a very small slither of cake. Am i beating myself up over it? No. Should I have eaten these things? Probably not. Will the world stop revolving as I'm still under 700 calories a day? Definitely not. It's a cookie. I know you feel bad, but a little perspective is required here.... clamber back up on that wagon and keep pumpin' the Protein. You'll forget it all in about, ooh, say, 20 minutes...[/quote']

I'm assuming this is the thread that set you over the top??

I'm happy for those of you that have it all figured out though...

Oh Laura, if you haven't figured it out then I have my doubts whether any of us will. You're one of the smartest people on here, IMHO.

food "addition" I like that.. yes I guess on a bad day I add more and more food..

I guess we all have different reasons for having this surgery. I cannot tell what a persons motivation is when they post in distress sometimes.. I guess I'm not clever enough?

By the way you are my role model too...

I'm assuming this is the thread that set you over the top??

Oh, LV. Sounds like you're having a bad day...

As for the 'I ate a cookie' post... I wouldn't say it sent me 'over the top'.. I don't believe this post is 'over-the-top'. It was the last in a string of posts that have made me groan. So i called it...

Oh' date=' LV. Sounds like you're having a bad day...

As for the 'I ate a cookie' post... I wouldn't say it sent me 'over the top'.. I don't believe this post is 'over-the-top'. It was the last in a string of posts that have made me groan. So i called it...[/quote']

You know you are right...

bad day, bad weekend.

And it is all food. It's always food.

I am not a role model either.

I do not have it all figured out and I cannot pretend that I do.

Sorry people. Carry on

You know you are right...

bad day, bad weekend.

And it is all food. It's always food.

I am not a role model either.

I do not have it all figured out and I cannot pretend that I do.

Sorry people. Carry on

You're not whinging about it - that's the difference. You're having a crap time and you called it (I remember your post about your highly insensitive friend). You're not mealy mouthed. THAT is what does my head in.. Give me straight up any day of the week over whingey-whiney-self-indulgent-calls for faux sympathy over a chip....

Hold tight, LV x

Okay, I'm a fairy patient kind of girl.

Is that sort of like a fairy princess?

I agree with you Madam Reverie. The, "I have lost 26lbs in a month and the scale has not moved in 2 weeks" posts are like nails on a chalkboard for me. I personally do not own a scale or plan on buying one. I will base my comfort on the way my clothes fit and my overall happiness. I cannot live my life weighing in every day. Misery does not love company in my house!

:wub: peace out!

Must follow this thread if only for entertainment purposes lol. And by the way' date=' I had a baggie size serving of movie theatre popcorn this weekend and the earth stopped moving, there was chaos in the streets and I think I may have lost 10 hairs. This is exactly what I expected to happen though [/quote']

Lmao @10 hairs.....lol!!

This is why some of us require a break from the occasional idiocy ... I got tired of the complaints of the very normal and expected stalls. When someone has a 7+ week stall like me then go ahead and whine ...until then, suck it up!

;D

...until then, suck it up!

;D

THROUGH A STRAW!!!!!!

THROUGH A STRAW!!!!!!

Between bites of pizza and cheese burgers

I am the wicked fairy, Lipstick