Did I get your attention???

Ok, curiosity... when I answer posts here, I am always coming from a perspective of a "food addict"

But many times I have people write back...

"But I don't have an addiction to food"

Which I always think to myself YEAH RIGHT!

Don't beat me up I'm being honest!!

What can I say I'm pessimistic, I also laugh when people say they don't eat TO MUCH so they don't understand how the are fat.. I AM FAT BECAUSE I EAT LIKE A PIG (alone mostly)

Today I thought about, "what if I'm wrong?"

I mean...I am me and I am addicted, how do I know how the next person is???

I'm curious as an addicted fat person how is it for those of you who are not addicted?

Oh and on a side note if I am wrong, then I'm also jealous because I would give anything not to have this problem (addiction)

I couldn't bring myself to read all the pages on this thread. I find it impossible to believe that anyone would need the sleeve who isn't/wasn't addicted to food. Thyroid is treatable WITHOUT sleeve and anyone not addicted ( odd term for dependent lol) would diet to desired weight.

Go up to Huntsville state park on 45. Great hiking trails and there are these ups and downs that you could almost call "hills". I run there all the time.

That's like an hour and a half away from me! I didn't know there was a Huntsville state park, though. I'll have to check it out, thanks!

Hey Laura - You are fine. My philosophy is that if you are busting your butt on a hike then eat fuel that gets you up the mountain ( or along the beach) . I have been known to eat a couple protein bars' date=' including a cliff bar when hauling up a mountain. Your body needs the carbs to sustain the effort. Do not feel bad about it at all. Now if you make it a habit while you are watching the bachelor to eat a sandwich, then you definitely need 1000 wet noodle lashings. do try and low carb it while you are in weight loss, but eventually you will need to work back up to normal healthy FDA pyramid food chart status. And no more self imposed guilt trips OK? Life is too short to be stressed about food.[/quote']

Fiddleman,

It was definitely a hike yesterday! My husband "miscalculated" the miles and elevation change.

We are camping at gold bluff beach (fern canyon) before crescent city ca. But it's in big state park with tons of hiking..

I don't feel to bad about the sandwich and I was to tired to have s'mores again last night

I noticed this morning on the forum a lot of threads about "OMG I'm hungry wtf??"

Sounds like a new topic in the coming days..

There seems to be this fallacy that with the sleeve your hunger is magically taken away for good.. (I paid an extra thousand to have mine taken out) huh... Wonder how these things get started??

My name is Laura I am fat. I ate to much food.

I have the sleeve, and I still get hungry

(it's natural)

I never was a big pasta or rice eater' date=' so those have been relatively easy. I eat whole grain wraps on occasion or wheat bread, but have managed to avoid white breads altogether. I think that it is something that if you did introduce it back into your diet it could easily be a trigger food. Processed carbs do initiate hunger and the want for more carbs so I could see that causing some problems for us. IF I ever get to maintenance, I don't think that I would ever bring those foods back.[/quote']

Ezekiel bread is my favorite! But this was not what I ate this week, it was French bread.

The easy part for me is pasta, I never liked it.

By the way Laura, are you sore today? Lol. Do you have the zombie walk down? Hehe.

Ezekiel bread is my favorite! But this was not what I ate this week' date=' it was French bread.

The easy part for me is pasta, I never liked it.[/quote']

Is Ezekiel bread the same as the Julian bread company?? It's paleo bread made w either almond or coconut...?

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By the way Laura' date=' are you sore today? Lol. Do you have the zombie walk down? Hehe.[/quote']

No I'm not to bad! Just when sitting down (I think from the climbing).

I think the thing that hurts the most is my sun burned face

I am definitely an addict and I consider the sleeve my rehab. I just got my approval and I'm so anxious because I'm going to have to face my life without my drug to comfort me. That's when it really hit me that I am sooo addicted. I started counselling several months ago because I knew this was going to be a head issue as much, if not more than a physical thing.

Is Ezekiel bread the same as the Julian bread company?? It's paleo bread made w either almond or coconut...?

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Ezekiel bread is actually a nutty sandwich bread that contains absolutely no flour. Ezekiel bread is made from four grains and four beans. Typically it contains wheat, spelt or rye, barley, millet, lentils, great northern beans, kidney beans, and pinto beans. This unique combination of ingredients is based on the biblical verse of Ezekiel 4:9 which reads: "Take also unto thee wheat and barley and beans and lentils and millet and spelt and put them into one vessel and make bread of it."

I noticed this morning on the forum a lot of threads about "OMG I'm hungry wtf??"

Sounds like a new topic in the coming days..

There seems to be this fallacy that with the sleeve your hunger is magically taken away for good..

The other fallacy is that you will never be able to eat more than 3 ounces in a sitting again, therefore the sleeve will forever prevent you from overeating. It may be true for some, but not for all of us. And by the time you get to that point you better have a "plan B" if your sleeve will hold more than half a mcnugget.

The other fallacy is that you will never be able to eat more than 3 ounces in a sitting again' date=' therefore the sleeve will forever prevent you from overeating. It may be true for some, but not for all of us. And by the time you get to that point you better have a "plan B" if your sleeve will hold more than half a mcnugget.[/quote']

I think that a lot of "newer" people are under the impression that all hunger is taken away I think that's the exception not the rule. At about 1 month out I did not care for food at all some days but it does equal out and increase over time. as does the amount you can eat. You are right on that butter.

But give it a minute..someone will be on here and tell me "but I have no hunger anymore".

And I can't even eat more that a nibble of a nugget without getting stuffed!

I think that a lot of "newer" people are under the impression that all hunger is taken away I think that's the exception not the rule. At about 1 month out I did not care for food at all some days but it does equal out and increase over time. as does the amount you can eat. You are right on that butter.

But hunger is not magically taken away forever!

But give it a minute..someone will be on here and tell me "but I have no hunger anymore".

I think many people also underestimate the power of their brain too. Sure the hunger hormone is reduced but our brains are stronger than that.

I think many people also underestimate the power of their brain too. Sure the hunger hormone is reduced but our brains are stronger than that.

Yes Amanda my brain is very powerful and that dang thing is used to getting its way!!

Yes Amanda my brain is very powerful and that dang thing is used to getting its way!!

Yeah mine too. I made chicken Marsala for the fam the other day. While I was browning the chicken my brain tried to convince me to take a bite.

I resisted, but it was a battle of willpower and addiction if ever there was.

Yeah mine too. I made chicken Marsala for the fam the other day. While I was browning the chicken my brain tried to convince me to take a bite.

I resisted' date=' but it was a battle of willpower and addiction if ever there was.[/quote']

Yes Amanda!!

That's where it starts! I held out from doing that for months but recently I gave in and stared tasting... It's hard to explain but with our small tummies it will satisfy you for a while, and that's a good thing right??? NO IT'S NOT! It throws of our routine and starts a slippery slope of graze type eating. I, me, Laura, NEED to stay on schedule and any little deviation right now (tasting) throws that off..

So many things I'm still learning.