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I LOVE my sister?

THAT SHOULD BE I LOVE MY SISTER!!!!

As most of you know (sorry, Leigha LOL!), I have been quite frustrated after my third fill last week in that a) I am eating 8 ounces and needing to force myself to stop because I'm still starving and :thumbup: I am starving again 2 hours later. I have been venting to my poor little sister, who I work out with during each week, and she sent me a couple of interesting articles. Stuff I already knew and stuff that worked for me as I was in the 3-month waiting period pre-op (lost 17 lbs), but I was just hoping that my band would give me satiety for a little longer than 2 to 3 hours. I think I need to just put that thinking aside and go back to what worked and rely on the band from keeping those more frequent portions smaller. And I also know that some of us are vigilant about not snacking in between (and thank GOD my doc isn't one of them), but I just can't suffer like this every day until my next fill.

Anyway, here is the article she sent me that reinforces the way the nutritionist suggested I eat pre-band.

Why You Need to Eat More to Lose More / Queerty

Also, she sent me a link to a "zig zag" calculator, which may be helpful, since I have been doing a lot more working out, so perhaps my body just needs more calories, but who knows?

Calorie Calculator - Daily Caloric Needs

I just wonder when I will ever figure this out....

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That Leigha is a girl after my own heart. Been a believer in non-starvation since I started this process. Throwing a body into the starvations mode only hinders weight loss and causes those nasty plateaus.

Good healthy food choices at 2-3 hour intervals makes for a healthy bod!

I dunno. I'm in the "don't believe in starvation mode" camp. There is not peer-reviewed research to back it up.

But beyond that, for me, eating more is NOT the solution--I gain. I gain at calorie levels well below the results from that calculator.

Eek! I would explode!

Maintenance: 2392 Calories/day

Fat Loss: 1913 Calories/day

Extreme Fat Loss: 1544 Calories/day

Seriously, to lose at a slow to moderate rate (when overweight) or maintain (at normal weight), I need 800-1000 calories (WITH daily exercise). The last 65 pounds of my excess weight came from following a 1200-1500 calorie diet!

I'm not posting this to be argumentative or to discourage you from trying a different approach; rather, I'm just pointing out that everyone's body is different, and we all have to determine what works for us and what does not.

I did this by tracking my intake over a very, very long time (a couple of years). I also tracked my weight changes (up, down, whatever...) With help, I concluded that my caloric needs are far below anything a calorie calculator would ever determine for me. Once I internalized that unfair bit of information, the band became the logical solution.

Looking at what and how much you eat is a very good idea. Eating more to lose weight may or may not be. It's totally worth a try---but be ready to give it up if necessary.

I wish I had! Instead, I really clung to the belief...and wound up much heavier and much more frustrated.

(I do think that eating small, nutritious meals at regular intervals is important, though.)

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See, just goes to show how different everyone is. I am so confused, I am just going to start playing with it to see. I am so stalled right now that I am willing to try anything to see what will happen. All I know is 800-1000 was not working for me personally, so I upped to 1000-1200 and started losing again. Now that I am exercising more (i.e. total body burn, circuit training-type stuff in addition to walking--burning about 600-700 calories per day), I am thinking that is not only why I'm hungry all the time, but it could be why my weight loss has stalled. I don't want to make myself stop exercising the 5 days a week either. So conflicted. Poo!

I dunno. I'm in the "don't believe in starvation mode" camp. There is not peer-reviewed research to back it up.

But beyond that, for me, eating more is NOT the solution--I gain. I gain at calorie levels well below the results from that calculator.

Eek! I would explode!

Maintenance: 2392 Calories/day

Fat Loss: 1913 Calories/day

Extreme Fat Loss: 1544 Calories/day

Seriously, to lose at a slow to moderate rate (when overweight) or maintain (at normal weight), I need 800-1000 calories (WITH daily exercise). The last 65 pounds of my excess weight came from following a 1200-1500 calorie diet!

I'm not posting this to be argumentative or to discourage you from trying a different approach; rather, I'm just pointing out that everyone's body is different, and we all have to determine what works for us and what does not.

I did this by tracking my intake over a very, very long time (a couple of years). I also tracked my weight changes (up, down, whatever...) With help, I concluded that my caloric needs are far below anything a calorie calculator would ever determine for me. Once I internalized that unfair bit of information, the band became the logical solution.

Looking at what and how much you eat is a very good idea. Eating more to lose weight may or may not be. It's totally worth a try---but be ready to give it up if necessary.

I wish I had! Instead, I really clung to the belief...and wound up much heavier and much more frustrated.

(I do think that eating small, nutritious meals at regular intervals is important, though.)

I have to agree with you, but also say that a HUGE part of this has to do with your metabolism. Based on the calculator, the caloric intake I needed for extreme weight loss was 1960!!!!! LOL if only!!

I've been doing 1400-1600 per day and have been maintaining my weight for about 10 months (with moderate exercise). I believe my body needs half of that for weight loss!

Betsy, have you taken one of those metabolism breathing tests? I was just curious if you did and if it matched up with what you found.

I took one and it gave me very high numbers (i.e. I should be able to eat 2200 and not gain weight while in a coma.) However, in reality, it doesn't seem to work that way. Some of it was me unintentionally fudging my numbers or "forgetting" to write down something I ate. I'm getting better at that, but that doesn't seem to be the complete answer.

I guess I would like to know how other folks tests matched up with reality.

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