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I switched to water soluble delta 9 after surgery because smoking wasn't an option for me anymore. It kicks in faster, and I don’t feel groggy or bloated like with edibles. I just mix it into my drink and chill. Way easier on my new stomach and doesn’t mess with my appetite like I was worried it might.
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Bone Broth Powder Protein vs. Whey Isolates
genelia replied to KimBaxleyWilson's topic in Protein, Vitamins, and Supplements
For bariatric patients, whey isolate is often better due to faster absorption and higher protein purity, but bone broth protein is gentler on digestion and collagen-rich. -
What's okay to make once you graduate to mush
summerseeker replied to Misa_Misa_9392's topic in Post-op Diets and Questions
We can buy these at M&S. I love them. 16 grams of protein and 99 cals a pack -
What's okay to make once you graduate to mush
Spinoza replied to Misa_Misa_9392's topic in Post-op Diets and Questions
Honestly the variation in post op dietary advice never ceases to amaze me. I had very few rules - 2 weeks liquid, 2 weeks puree were I think the only guidance I was given. I got most of my information here! I am an outlier in that I adored the puree phase. My first proper food, not yucky protein shakes, for about 2 months. My pre-op 800 calorie a day diet had to be extended when my surgery date was cancelled and I had to be in a state of preparation for a cancellation (that took weeks!) I made family dinner and then just pureed that in a blender with extra gravy. No fibrous veg but I had everything else. I hope you can make it through. -
What's okay to make once you graduate to mush
WendyJane replied to Misa_Misa_9392's topic in Post-op Diets and Questions
I was on a liquid diet then a full liquid diet. Followed by a soft protein only, so you are not weird about the no fruit and veggies. I have had no fruits or veggies yet and I'm only 5 weeks out from surgery. I'm still taking in soft protein. I did reward myself on Friday with a Pretzel and I made sure I softened it and chewed it a bunch before swallowing it, but having the crunch was so satisfying. That's the thing I miss most is the crunch. I had no puree diet following surgery. Soft protein, my go to is Ricotta Bake, and my husband makes it with spices and uses pizza sauce for further flavor. It is creamy and cheesy and really filling. So, just wanted to chime in that you are not alone in the no fruit/veggie department. -
What's okay to make once you graduate to mush
FifiLux replied to Misa_Misa_9392's topic in Post-op Diets and Questions
Wow so restrictive on the veg, did the doctor tell you why? I have never heard of that before, I was made have veg from day one on liquids by way of soup. If your bariatric team are not going to allow you veg (fruit I can understand being a no) then surely they should provide you with a bit of a menu guide, my team gave me recopies and food lists for each stage, and veg and even fruit were allowed throughout by way of a slow reintroduction. In the puree stage I had a homemade bolognese (though it had tomatoes and bit of carrot) and chili con carne (again has tomatoes but pureed right down so might be ok for you depending on why you are so restricted) and the kidney beans are a good protein, dhal. What about some hummus, can get different flavoured ones to kick up the flavour a bit? Omelets that you can then add seasoning/spices to? -
What's okay to make once you graduate to mush
SpartanMaker replied to Misa_Misa_9392's topic in Post-op Diets and Questions
No fruits on veggies at all? Wow, that's really restrictive. If you also can't eat any seafood, then really about all that's left is dairy, meat or grains. About all I can come up with would be: Yogurt, especially Greek style (Make sure to avoid any flavors with chunks) Protein supplements /drinks (duh) Mashed cottage cheese (small curd) Ricotta cheese Mashed beans like lentils or alternately low fat or fat free refried beans. Add some grated cheese if your plan allows this. (Of course culinarily we classify these as vegetables, so maybe they don't want you eating this either???) Pureed meats like beef, chicken, or turkey (I personally couldn't stand this) Canned chicken breast, mashed up well. May also need to add something to make it moister? Cream of wheat Grits Baby oatmeal (since it's all ground up) Mashed potatoes (or do they consider this a vegetable too?) -
Sticking to post-op plan working 80 hour weeks?
AmberFL replied to Chrys Kiy's topic in Post-op Diets and Questions
It sounds like your going to be very busy so maybe you wont be so focused on food. A part of my success is attributed to meal prepping- I meal prep every single week. Sometimes I meal prep meals for grab or go or I will meal prep items for those tempting nights at home where I want to eat cereal or something that is not so great instead of cooking. you will get quicker at meal prep too, I used to take 2+ hours now I can whip up my meal prep in 1hour. I also learned to not complicate it. Easy meals can be just as delicious! I bulk prep chicken breast, and ground beef, hard boiled eggs, wash and cut up veggies/fruits, make sure to have Greek yogurt and cottage cheese on hand, It does make life easier when your prepared! Also having better choice snacks stocked up in the fridge/pantry helps too! Cheese sticks, jerky, flavor packets for water (if you like that) protein shakes, protein powder, protein bars (recommend Built bar or fulfil bar), unsweetened almond milk. skinny syrups for coffee...theres more its just off the top of my head these things lol -
I finally had my RNY on June 2nd. It was insanely painful right off the bat and I had a 2 day hospital stay because I wasn’t able to keep anything down. Everything looked normal on the barium swallow. I’ve read on here that hunger goes away… mine did not. I’m so hungry and it sucks. I’m trying to maintain my water intake and trying to get as much protein as possible while spacing everything out and taking sips… but I very quickly feel like there are uncomfortable air bubbles in my stomach even with the tiny sips. Tell me it stops sucking. Because right now I feel like I made such a huge mistake. 😩
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I’ve been looking into different options too, and I found a place offering tirzepatide for weight loss Miami clinic services. Their pricing seemed more straightforward compared to others I checked out, and they let you do virtual check-ins, which is helpful if you're not local. I liked that they were pretty responsive when I messaged them with questions. Might be worth checking out if you're still looking around.
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What to do, am in a very difficult situation with my weight and options
SpartanMaker replied to Angieee's topic in PRE-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
For clarity, I purposefully chose not to go down the rabbit hole of discussing diet since you mentioned being under the care of a "nutritionist". (I hope by that you mean an RDN "Registered Dietitian Nutritionist".) None of us here are qualified to promote one way of eating over any other, especially when you have multiple disease states you're dealing with. Let me explain. I'm currently working to become a certified sports nutritionist, and one of the most important things that was drilled into me early on was that I needed to stay within my practice guidelines. This means ONLY physicians and RDs can develop a diet for the treatment of specific medical conditions. If you want to know how to maximize your diet for athletic endeavors, I can help. If you need a diet to help with managing or treating a medical disease, I'm woefully underprepared and will always advise seeking out an RD or RDN. The reality is that dietary options abound, but medical conditions greatly impact not only what your dietary needs are, but also how you respond to various dietary options and even what's potentially safe (or not), for you to eat. -
What to do, am in a very difficult situation with my weight and options
WendyJane replied to Angieee's topic in PRE-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
I differ from what SpartanMaker says, I wouldn't try any more of the options that are out there. Obviously you first need to recognize that obesity is a disease and it never goes away. You tried to starve yourself to death and the body will automatically save every morsel you put into your body and store it as fat, especially on a 300 calorie diet. Increasing the calories is not necessarily the fix either, you need to look at the foods you are eating. Is it protein heavy or are you still eating salads, which are carbs by the way? Are you thinking that a baked potato is a veggie, it is not it is a carbohydrate, then add all the stuff you put on the potato. Diet wise, you may be choosing the wrong foods. And certainly the amount. You passed out probably because your glucose levels went into the basement with such a low calorie intake. I agree with SpartanMaker, and seek out a Bariatric center that has a whole host of options. Surgery is a tool that the obese person uses and it is a life long commitment to make lifestyle changes. You may need to see a therapist and nutrition expert both to help you, and maybe they have other options other than going straight to surgery, but for certain I feel you need better education on what is an appropriate "diet", and not all "diets" are really diets but ways to spend more money that is just wasted. You obviously have the willpower and stamina to take hold of a new life, it won't hurt to inquire. I would also urge you to watch some of the YouTube videos from BariNation, they have Podcasts with bariatric physicians and other healthcare providers every week and most recently there was discussion about Obesity being a disease and using something other than weight or BMI (Body Mass Index) to determine if someone is obese. My plan has always been to go the cautious or conservative route first. In my case I jumped right in and happy for it. I had an excellent surgeon and team that all worked together to ensure I had a good experience and did. Never had any pain with my surgery, and have had good results so far and today is Post op week 3, day 1. I wish you the best in your journey to seek out further information and a good bariatric group!! -
What to do, am in a very difficult situation with my weight and options
SpartanMaker replied to Angieee's topic in PRE-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
At the end of the day, no one here can tell you if it's right for you. Keep in mind that obesity is a disease and it definitely needs a treatment plan, just like your other conditions. The right treatment for any given person varies based on a lot of factors, so don't automatically decide yourself what the right treatment should be. The best thing for you to do is seek out a GOOD bariatric center that has lots of options available to you and not just surgery. Personally, my gut tells me that it's too soon to go this route since obesity is such a recent issue for you. I'm not a doctor, and certainly not a bariatric surgeon, but just thinking through how recent this obesity disease is for you, I personally would want to try some more conservative treatments first? -
What to do, am in a very difficult situation with my weight and options
Angieee posted a topic in PRE-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
Here we go, currently 35 F. Since I was 21 I have seen an endocrinologist for what seemed like an unknown hormone disorder. They didn't diagnosis with anything but monitored me for years. I had severe cystic acne, Hidrianitus suppurativa hirsutism and I struggled with my weight (always). My weight was not that much of a problem at the time (I was 160, 5'7) but I felt like I was heavier than I should be for what I ate. I was not diagnosed with PCOS because I had regular periods and normal test results. But the doctor told me he wanted to continue to see me. Years later in 2022 my weight skyrocketed to 230 pounds in about a 18 month period. It was shocking, never have I been that heavy. It was awful. I didn't change me diet. The sent me to a nutritionist but I didn't lose weight. It was like weight-loss was impossible. The endocrinologist has no answers and I got a second opinion. Again no answers. Then in 2024 I was the same weight but my asthma was becoming incredibly severe. My lung function was down to 70 present and I was frequently hospitalized last year. They told me my weight was worsening my asthma. I told them I couldn't lose weight. I got desperate and from June to November I ate 400 calories a day and only drank water. I lost 30 pounds. I had no choice but to do this. It was crazy, it was dangerous and I passed out twice but I had no choice. I was dying anyway. By December I started upping my calories to 700 and by January I was eating 1200 calories. My lung function improved to 86 percent and my asthma was suddenly improving based on test results. The troubling thing recently is in the last two months I've regained 11 pounds. I'm only eating what my nutritionist recommends. I'm now at the point of wondering if Gastric Bypass is for me. I clearly can not lose weight easily on my own, worsening obesity makes me sicker. The weigh comes back far too quickly. Would this be the right decision for me? -
Sticking to post-op plan working 80 hour weeks?
WendyJane replied to Chrys Kiy's topic in Post-op Diets and Questions
Something else I do is bring tuna or salmon handi-packs to lunch with a plastic fork and eat that right out of the package, and a piece of fruit. There are so many options of those handi-packages too. I have also done the 3 compartment lunch boxes with a protein, a fruit and a veggie to give me variety, you can stuff those boxes in your lunch box and have them always available for you in the refrigerator. Those boxes were a life saver for me, I just do my meal prep during the weekends or when I am off. Have a great day. -
I'm team both? My diet mantra is 80/20. What I mean is: I try to focus on getting ~80% of my calories from minimally processed foods. (AKA, I try to eat clean.) I don't really track this, I just focus on making good food choices when I can. I try to eat a wide variety of foods, so nothing's off limits. To me, there are no bad foods, there are just some that provide more nutritional value than others. Plus, the more variety i have in my diet, the better overall nutritional profile I'll have. I try to shoot for 80% of what I eat being things that have a bit more nutritional value. For example, most of the time, I might pick spinach or kale over lettuce. I eat carb centered. It's not quite 80%, so my mantra may be a bit off? I suppose between carbs and protein, it probably is 80%, so I'll settle for that. I know this one will be controversial here since the bariatric dietitians push protein so heavily (and don't misunderstand me, protein is critically important), but as endurance athlete at maintenance and 2.5 years out from surgery, I need more carbs than I did during the weight loss phase. Critical to the above is that I don't obsess over any of it. I guess my point in the above is that if you're trying to determine the "best" protein source, maybe the real right answer is there is no best. Once your body starts breaking down the protein you consume into the component amino acids, your body doesn't know where those amino acids came from. The advantage of not focusing on just one source of protein is that there are vastly different micronutrient profiles across foods. The more variety you eat, the better off you are nutritionally.
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Sticking to post-op plan working 80 hour weeks?
WendyJane replied to Chrys Kiy's topic in Post-op Diets and Questions
I got several boxes that are for Bariatric patients that have 3 compartments, one for the big protein and then the other two for veggies/fruits and carbs. I go to work with one for each meal every day I go to work and I have what I am allowed to eat and that's it. When it is gone, it is gone. If I get hungry later, I may have a snack and that snack is a Protein shake. I like Premier Protein, and through Amazon you can get the variety pack and they have "sweet" ones that curb the urge to go to any vending machine or reaching for the chocolate on your bosses desk. Or mine. I prep for the whole week on Saturday and Sundays. I will bake chicken and then weigh out the appropriate amount of chicken and put it in the box, then the veggies and then the carb. I have them stacked in the fridge so when I pack my lunch, I just grab one or two and 2 Protein Shakes and I'm set for my long day. Hope that helps! -
With ADHD, your focus is get something in and get moving to the next task. You need to learn mindfulness and remember as a bari patient forever, you need to know your true hunger cues that happens below the neck. Sometimes you have hunger that is in your head. Head hunger is very true, and sometimes you need to take a pause and figure it out. When taking that pause, you must decide if the hunger is above or below the neck. If it is head hunger, which the Contrave will help with, you still need to make the decision to eat or not to eat. If the hunger is below the neck, then eat slowly, small bites and mindfully as well. Emotional eating is one of the biggest problems that bari patients have, and one must slow it down a bit and think and be mindful. This is really hard when you have ADHD but hopefully your doctor has you on ADHD meds to help you focus on your person. And I would be remiss to say that community is important and therapy can be done in a community with like minded and like surgically changed people. I would suggest some mindfulness though about joining BariNation and attend some of the groups they have run by professionally licensed people to help us through the rough times and learn mindfulness when it comes to food obsessions. I tried the Cinnamon Premier Protein shake and loved it, took my sugar urge away. Be well.
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Sticking to post-op plan working 80 hour weeks?
WendyJane replied to Chrys Kiy's topic in Post-op Diets and Questions
You should find out what your diet plan is before buying and thinking about food for the post op period. Some have liquids for 11 days then they are on full liquids, then they go to puree foods and then there are others that are on protein only diets before they are checked out by their nutritionists. There are a wide variety of diets, and several people are giving you food choices and advice, I refer you to your team for the post op period of time, it takes a bit of time before you can eat all foods, in smaller amounts. So be careful with other's advice. -
NHS Tier 4 Dietitian Consultation
NeonRaven8919 replied to Bari_Hopeful's topic in PRE-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
Hi! Sorry to have found your post so late! There's not a lot of NHS patients on here as this is mostly an American website. I had my surgery in October 2024 on the NHS. I remember the dietician appointment was a video call with other patients before any surgeries were finalised. I will admit that I don't feel like I got much out of it. The main message is eat slowly and prioritise protein first when eating a meal. The session with the psychologist (a ten minute phone call) was probably the least helpful as she just said I need to practice mindfulness and learn others ways to cope with stress other than eating. (Gee, thanks! Where was that advice when I was a fat 8 year old? 🙄) I had a higher BMI than you currently do and the privilege of living in London, so I think I was bumped up a few tiers and fast tracked (I don't know if this true in general, but London seems to get the lion's share of the funding so hospitals are less strict. My Gloucester based friend has a BMI of 44, but because she has no comorbidities, she can't get any weight loss referrals because her BMI isn't 50+) But I digress. Once I had the surgery, it was a year and a half from the initial referral, it's mostly been smooth sailing. I had the gastric sleeve and had no problems. So far, I've lost 39 kg and more fatty liver has improved significantly. My mother had the gastric bypass (also on the NHS). She had a complication, St Anthony's private hospital did the surgery, but the NHS covered it but once they operated again, she had no problems. She never shared exactly how much she weighed with me, but she went from a size 28-30 to a 22 and reversed her diabetes. She passed away in 2023, but if she hadn't, she would be much smaller I'm sure. I've had a great experience so far with my procedure and weight loss. I really do recommend going the NHS route if you are able to do so. Well done on making this decision to change your life! You've got this. Sometimes, just making the decision to get help is the hardest part! -
Thank you. Seems like there are wins occurring every single day. I am finally in a place where I can see them for what they are and appreciate them. A pile of these little wins are funny in some way, too. Back in the timeframe surrounding my sleeve surgery the weight loss is what drove my happiness. Getting rid of the unwanted bulk was awesome and it was the spark that ignited a powderkeg of fun, adventure and a small bit of misadventure. I had no plan or goal for what life would look like....I simply jumped onboard the train and was okay wherever it took me. Now it is different, but I believe in a better way....perhaps. I know what lies ahead in terms of carving off the unwanted weight. I'm familiar with trodding that ground and know where some of the pitfalls may be. I think having my head screwed on correctly has made the daily discipline easy to achieve. The weight loss is more of a symptom of everything else falling into place. It is not its own thing, but a part of the overall improved state of mind. Hard to verbalize, but there is a goal for daily life...and I am getting closer to being in that spot and living that daily. I still get a kick out of hearing the scale make its new lower reports, but I don't get pissed if there isn't some big drop or even an uptick from the day before. I know this for the long haul. There will be a steady drop and there may be a few days here or there where it'll be in a holding pattern before resuming the loss train. One aspect of life...one that will take care of itself so long as I follow through on the straightforward nutritional steps. One thing that makes it SO freaking much easier this time around is the supplements available to us now. Essential greens in a powder, turmeric capsules, fiber-filled products, protein products with zero sugars, vitamins galore, etc, etc. Life is good....and getting gooder.
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We've had a number of veterans that have come back here recently after getting to goal (or mostly to goal), but then life got in the way and they had a significant amount of regain. I wanted to ask those that have gone through this, what thoughts you have for the rest of us on how to prevent the regain? It's easy for someone like me that's not faced this to think "it's easy, if regain starts, just do xyz", but I know it's never that simple. Maybe said differently, in hindsight would you have done anything differently? I know some of you went through some really rough patches mentally & emotionally and your health took a back seat. Maybe your options were limited and you might not have been able to do much about it. I still think it would be nice to hear what thoughts you have for the rest of us that maybe have not faced this (yet).
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Sticking to post-op plan working 80 hour weeks?
summerseeker replied to Chrys Kiy's topic in Post-op Diets and Questions
This is how simple and easy it could be. While showering, boil some eggs, add one egg to lunch box, stash rest in fridge for another day. My box would also contain cheese, add apple slices and peanut buttter to dunk apple in, Add packet protein crackers and deli meat. Add small salad , a protein shake and a protein yogurt or protein pudding. Small packs of nuts and jerky are great too. -
Sticking to post-op plan working 80 hour weeks?
Dub replied to Chrys Kiy's topic in Post-op Diets and Questions
Routinely knock out 60hr weeks. I think I took three weeks off after the sleeve and that was largely due to a massive abdominal hernia that was repaired at the time of the sleeve surgery. It was my 3rd such repair...and has held up great these last 9 years. You may be able to flip the script......and make those 80hr weeks your best weight loss weeks. There is going to be a time when the protein shakes are the ticket...then maybe those small foil packs of tuna and salmon. Food won't be an issue that occupies your thoughts. You'll laugh at the vending machines and shoot 'em the bird. Make sure you buy all your necessary supplements & shakes and tuna packs and load up your desk or locker. Having those on hand will be one more way to keep food off your mind. You'll not be wondering what you are going to have for lunch every day. You'll have that covered. 8 weeks will be a great amount of time to recover and acclimate. You'll lose a pile of weight in those 8 weeks, too. Those 80hr weeks are going to feel much, much shorter from this point forward. Congrats. Go kick some ass. You got this. -
Sticking to post-op plan working 80 hour weeks?
SpartanMaker replied to Chrys Kiy's topic in Post-op Diets and Questions
I don't have experience with that personally, but I'd suggest talking to your dietitian about it. Coming up with meal plans for diverse patients is literally a big part of what they do. As I think through possible issues, a couple of things come to mind that you should discuss with them: What can you eat to meet your nutritional needs that don't require a lot of meal prep? Obviously there are protein shakes and meal replacement shakes, but as much as possible, it would be good to eat more real food. Are your caloric or macronutrient needs different due to the long work hours? The kind of work you do will probably dictate this to a large extent, as a physically demanding job like construction would be really different than what you'd need to power through long hours in front of a computer where mental acuity is important. Best of luck.
