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Scared of revision from sleeve to bypass
SleeveToBypass2023 replied to Mrs.S's topic in Revision Weight Loss Surgery Forums (NEW!)
So I just had this revision, and I can tell you that the weight loss will not be like it was with the sleeve. I had it because I developed GERD, esophagitis, gastritis, and a TON of pre-cancerous polyps all through my stomach. So I also didn't have a choice. I was on 80mg daily of Nexium and still had break through GERD. With the sleeve, I lost 30 pounds in the first 2 weeks. With the revision, I lost 14. I also wasn't interested in doing it for weight loss, since I was chugging along and doing well until it all went stupid. My goal was to get back to living my life, get back to my beast mode work outs, get back to feeling good and not having pain. And that's what the surgery is doing for me. Losing additional weight is inevitable, but eating the stuff you're eating right now is not the way to add additional weight. The sugar and heavy carbs are a no no, especially once you have the bypass. Keep in mind, the more weight you add on now, the more you'll lose. If you really feel the need to try and pad your weight a little, do it by adding additional protein, add in an additional meal or 2 snacks (but don't make them junk). Increase your calories, not your carbs and sugar. Again, I'm not saying this is what you should be doing, but if you're determined to add weight on before the surgery, at least do it in a healthier way than what you're doing now. I can also say, the recovery from the bypass has been SO SO much better than with the sleeve. I honestly wish I had just done the bypass to begin with. So much less pain, I was up and around faster, able to do things better, could handle my pills and supplements (had to crush or completely eliminate them with the sleeve for the first 4-5 weeks), able to handle cold liquids (couldn't with the sleeve), able to get my fluids in so much easier (I drank a 20oz of water in the hospital the day after my surgery and could barely handle 3-4oz with the sleeve). So all in all, I'm exceptionally happy I did the revision. No more GERD, no more PPI, no more pain, much easier recovery, and while the weight is still coming off, it's doing so at a slower and more manageable pace. I wish you all the luck, and I promise you'll feel so much better after the revision. -
August 2023 Surgery Buddies!
emgo replied to kayhay0714's topic in PRE-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
Hi friends! My bypass date is 8/7! It feels surreal that it’s actually happening after such a long process for insurance approval. Some days I’m really excited and some days I’m terrified. My one week liquid preop diet starts 7/31. -
Hello, new member and was curious about a few things.
CarmenG replied to Penguin733's topic in Gastric Sleeve Surgery Forums
I was sleeved in Mexico in 2009, and two years later I lost my gall bladder because all I did was focus on protein and nothing else. I wish I had known that we CAN overdo protein. I wish I'd known that too much protein will kill your gall bladder, your kidneys, and your liver. I wish I'd exercised from the get-go instead of waiting 3 years to finally start getting on that elliptical. It would have given me more muscle tone and less hanging skin. I wish I'd stuck to my exercise instead of letting myself get overwhelmed with all the tragedies I experienced from 2014-2020. I wish I'd gotten therapy instead of looking to Xanax, Ambien, and alcohol to distract me. I'm 23 days out of a revision from a sleeve to a bypass due to weight gain. This journey is going to be much harder than my sleeve. Treasure your sleeve, work with it, respect it. *Edit: You're goal right now should be to hydrate and keep walking. Even just the shuffling around the house is good. It helps prevent blood clots and helps flush out the anesthesia and water retention from the IV fluids. Shuffle around the house 3 or 4 times a day. Count 500 or 600 steps each time. It gets easier. Don't be bending over to grab stuff from the floor. Ask someone to help or get a $10 extended arm grabber thingy. That helped me a lot when I would drop my sock or my vitamin on the floor. 😊 -
Scared of revision from sleeve to bypass
Mrs.S posted a topic in Revision Weight Loss Surgery Forums (NEW!)
I had sleeve surgery done 9 years ago in 2014. I'm 5'4" and started at 202 pounds. I lost down to 102, and looked awful. It took me until 2017 to gain back to a healthy weight of 115. I have remained in the general vicinity of 113 - 117 since. From the start I've have terrible GERD. In February of this year my gastro said the GERD is out of control and I cannot put it off anymore, it's time for me to convert to bypass. I do NOT want to do this. I sought the opinions of 3 of doctors all of which said the same thing. I had EGD, upper GI series, manometry, and pH with Bravo. Surgeon said it's worse than they initially thought, and that I need surgery now. He submitted to insurance on Monday (3 days ago). He expects me to have surgery within a couple of weeks. When this was mentioned in February I weighed 116. I immediately started eating all the things to up my weight. I live on Crumbl Cookies, lemon cream pie, crackers with cheese, and potato chips. I've always eaten those things, but now I'm eating them nonstop. I'm currently at 124 pounds. I am scared to death about losing weight again. Surgeon says he expects me to lose around 20 pounds. That's too much. I don't want too look like that again. I'm happy with how I look now. I also am not at all interested in the process of all of it again. WLS is part of my past that I was happy to be done with. I don't want to do it again. It has been made abundantly clear to me that I have to do it, but I'm scared and sad. I don't know what I'm looking for here, maybe just looking to share these feelings and get them off my chest. -
I had a serious case of buyer's remorse during my second week post op. I even thought, "I should've just stayed the way I was!" But I am feeling better. I try to do a lot of reading about the bypass and revisions. I'm a sleeve to bypass revision. I'm 23 days out and at a weight stall. I'm finding it hard to consume more than 56-64 oz of water a day. I'm craving caffeine like crazy. And I'm experiencing constipation and not sure how to add more fiber without adding more carbs. It's tricky getting just enough of this and not too much of that. What's helping my mindset, though, is looking back at my very first pic (starting weight) and looking at my most recent. I haven't lost much (comparatively speaking), but I feel better. I can wash the dishes, cook dinner for my daughter, and bathe without running out of breath or having my back aching and burning. I can dress myself without having to sit on the bed. My skin looks fantastic. Focus on all of the things that have gotten better since your pre-op diet. Focus on the future weight loss you'll experience (even if it's going slower than you'd like). Focus on things you'll be able to consume in a couple of months. You can look up recipes and save them for month 2 and month 3 and so on. Also, I don't know if you pray, but if you do, pray for peace of mind. All of these things help me, and they may help you as well.
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You nailed it about the “mind hunger.” I didn’t have it as much with the original bypass, probably because those no-no foods felt uncomfortable and/or I dumped, always out the back way. It took almost 2 years to be able to eat the bad stuff. After what turns out to be Part 1 of my revision surgery, it took a lot less, plus I don’t dump. I spoke with my surgeon to say that I wasn’t sure the Argon zapping was working, and she told me that the revision process takes several surgeries and that I should have been contacted by their obesity management team and scheduled for the next procedure. They’re working on scheduling that for August, and I’m in contact with the team. She also suggested calorie counting, as well as some of those online weight management sites like Noom. It’s as much about how you think of food and realizing why you overeat. I was getting therapy, but it was once a month, and I don’t think it really helped.
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Chewable Vitamins vs Swallowing
SleeveToBypass2023 replied to MasonMoonGirl's topic in Gastric Bypass Surgery Forums
WHen I had my sleeve, I had to have chewables. They're SO nasty. OMG. So when I had my revision to bypass, I bought liquids, thinking I wouldn't be able to swallow any pills (I couldn't do any kind of pills with my sleeve for like 4 weeks). I was shocked when I found I could take ALL my pills with absolutely no issues at all by day 5 after the bypass. So now I have the liquid vitamins that I'm finishing up and then I'll be switching to normal bariatric vitamins (mostly because I refuse to waste money lol ) -
I just want to say, as someone who had the sleeve and then a revision to bypass, the sleeve recovery was the hardest. I am completely STUNNED at how much easier the bypass recovery has been. So for those of you who had the sleeve and are struggling, I promise it'll get better. It took me darn near 4 weeks before I was completely pain free. It took 4 days with the bypass. I never lost hunger with either surgery, and I lost what little restriction I had with the sleeve around week 4. The key is to talk to those who have been there and understand the struggle. Some therapy is also huge. The surgery is a tool, but it doesn't change your relationship with food. The mental part of this is actually the toughest part. I promise you, even if you have real hunger, the head hunger is the hardest thing to get past. I can ignore real hunger. But the mind f**k you get from your brain telling you you're hungry, you're starving, you have to have this or that, you can't go without it... that's where the work actually begins. Learning to get over that. Once you do, and you train yourself to recognize true hunger vs head hunger, and you learn how to ignore the head hunger, that's when you've truly won. And it's hard, I won't lie. VERY hard. But it absolutely CAN be done. I promise you that.
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Recovery from bypass vs sleeve
SleeveToBypass2023 replied to SleeveToBypass2023's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
They got them all, but decided to remove the distal stomach (the part that is bypassed and isn't used) because that's where the polyps kept showing up. Now I literally only have a 2oz pouch for a stomach and that's it. As far as I can tell, it's my last surgery. Now I'm just getting on with healing and living my life. I'm so so glad to be on the other side of things FINALLY. -
I had my gastric bypass on July 6. Doing good getting my protein in with the clear liquids but I'm struggling getting in my fluids.
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Surgery Date 08/07/2023
MasonMoonGirl replied to MasonMoonGirl's topic in Gastric Bypass Surgery Forums
My office is really relaxed, maybe too relaxed I wish I had more support from them. I never had to go to any weight loss seminar. My nutrition classes consisted of me texting any questions I have to the nurse and she doesn't get back to me unless I remind her a day later. Haven't been offered any nutrition or counseling services aside from that. They emailed me a list of foods that I can eat right now but no portion sizes. I'm learning how to eat by reading gastric bypass books and on youtube. All I have to do is blood tests a couple days before and did my ekg test and heart xray already. I'm seeking therapy and joining the gym on my own. Mine is pretty much just the dr performing the surgery it seems and the rest is up to me. I'm so thankful for this group and hope that they offer more support after. Never had to do any in person weigh ins or lose a specific amount of weight they just said don't gain weight. I wonder if the lack of requirements for me is a good thing or a bad thing. No nicotine test but I'm not a smoker. I believe my liquid diet is 1 or two days before the surgery -
Portion Sizes (and the Dreaded Foaming)
CarmenG replied to Deep6's topic in Post-op Diets and Questions
I'm new to the bypass, so I'm not sure how foamies or dumping work with it because I haven't experienced it yet. However, I was sleeved 14 years ago, and I did experience the foamies like 3 times. I found it happened when I didn't chew my food enough, or when I was eating too fast. It may not be portion size. With a sleeve, you usually don't overeat because you feel it in your chest right away. I remember my nose would start running, or I'd hyper-salivate (foamies) when I wasn't paying attention to my chewing or to how fast I was eating. In my line of work, we don't have time to eat sometimes, so it was a real learning experience. What always helped me with the sleeve was to start walking. I'd just walk around inside the house for about 5 minutes and the pressure in my chest would eventually subside, as would the foamies. -
Hello! My surgery date is 08/07/2023 and I'm very excited but also very nervous about getting gastric bypass! I'm wondering what are the most common types of complications and what are my chances of getting them? When should I call a doctor? Is the pain REALLY that bad after and do the doctors give you real pain medicine? Also any advice on where to find a reasonably priced nutritionist and therapist that deals with gastric bypass patients... thank you!
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Recovery from bypass vs sleeve
SleeveToBypass2023 replied to SleeveToBypass2023's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
I'm really glad to hear this. I've been really worried, but at least now I know the restriction will kick in with solid foods. People said that about the sleeve and it never happened for me, so I'm hoping it actually will with the bypass. -
It sounds like something is out of balance to be that lethargic at six months - most tend toward the energizer bunny side of things with a big chunk of weight off. Have you had labs done recently (six months would be a typical time for most programs)? Low iron or B12 are common bypass problems, which is why they usually recommend extra, but the recommendations tend to be an average and may not be enough for everyone (while being too much for others.) I would certainly check in with the surgeon or RD on this.
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Hey there everyone. South Jersey medical professional who got very fat during COVID … work/ sleep/ eat / repeat… to balloon up to 265! going to surgery on September 15th for gastric bypass. scared, hopeful, studying the procedure and just learning for the next two months!
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Counting down the days. Got my date: September 15th!!! excited, scared, doing lots of reading/research. very glad i found this forum! going for gastric bypass and several friends/family are NOT supportive.! but i KNOW this is my last chance. need buddies. waiting for September!!!
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Counting down the days. Got my date: September 15th!!! excited, scared, doing lots of reading/research. very glad i found this forum! going for gastric bypass and several friends/family are NOT supportive.! but i KNOW this is my last chance. need buddies. waiting for September!!!
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Counting down the days. Got my date: September 15th!!! excited, scared, doing lots of reading/research. very glad i found this forum! going for gastric bypass and several friends/family are NOT supportive.! but i KNOW this is my last chance. need buddies. waiting for September!!!
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Hi. My surgery was 4 days ago, July 6. I am doing well, the healing appears to be going well. I still have pain at the incision spots but it is manageable. I am tolerating protein and liquids well. I am excited to show my kids that being around and healthy for them and myself is priority one. I am also looking forward to wearing some of my old clothes! My husband has been very supportive throughout the process. My children were apprehensive because it's surgery, we have been pretty open about it as a family. I have not determined how I will approach the topic with my friends. I go back and forth between, not telling them at all. I am the only obese friend so I do not know what value it will bring. My sister had a gastric bypass 15 years ago, her input has been invaluable and reading this forum has been super helpful. Thank you all.
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JUNE SURGERY BUDDIES
DandelionSun replied to Mira88's topic in PRE-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
I had my gastric bypass June 13 so I am about a month out now. -
Hello All, My bypass was 1/13/23. Since thenm I'be lost 76lbs. Recently i've been suffering with very low energy. I'm taking my multivitamin as i should but all i want to do is rest and or sleep. Any physical exercise past rest makes me extremely tired and i just want to rest. Is this "normal"? 6 months out i did'nt expect to have this issue. Should i Just be more patient with my body?
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Post op hunger
SleeveToBypass2023 replied to Gastric2023!'s topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
I never lost my hunger from my sleeve. Not once. And now I've had my revision from sleeve to bypass, still hungry all the time. So sometimes it happens. -
Recovery from bypass vs sleeve
SleeveToBypass2023 posted a topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
I'm completely shocked to say it's been a MILLION times better this time around than it was with my sleeve!!! I was able to take all my pills, at once, by day 4 post op. I've been able to get my water in from day 1. I was able to handle cold stuff. And other than incision/stomach muscle pain, there has been NO PAIN at all. I've been able to walk for 20 minutes 3x per day since day 6 post op. The bad thing is that there isn't a reduction in hunger at all and i haven't noticed any restriction or full feeling or anything. Yesterday was my first day eating mushy foods, and when I had my sleeve, I was IMMEDIATELY full before I even finished my allotted amount. This time? Nope. I fully expected restriction or a hard stop, but nope. That's really disappointing, actually. By day 30 with the sleeve, I had zero restriction and I never lost my hunger. I thought I would have some restriction with the bypass, but nope. Not since day 1. Nothing at all. -
July 2023 buddies?
missy irene replied to LibrarianErin's topic in PRE-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
Hi All. I'm scheduled for gastric bypass revision surgery on 7/24/23. I originally had gastric bypass 12/12/2012. Today is the first day of my liquid diet. I'm looking forward to hopefully connecting with some of you who are also having surgery this month! Cheers to new beginnings
