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What I did for protein at this stage is cook a lot of fish and then bean based meals because beans are also fairly soft. I basically cooked my way through the Spain on a Fork guy's bean and fish recipes and then make salmon with lemon juice in the instant pot because if I cook it any other way I screw it up. My plan sounds a little different than others on here and I wasn't supposed to be using any kind of supplement and instead was supposed to have fish or chicken breast and vegetables and the portion was supposed to be the size of my hand and I could do that as many times a day as necessary to get to 1,200 calories or have protein snacks like greek yogurt and cottage cheese.
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On the weight loss slowing, everyone here has already said that's totally normal. But since I'm a total nerd and tracked my weight loss, I can tell you exactly how mine slowed down. I've lost a total of 70 lbs over 23 months. Month 1: 3.5 lbs a week, reached -22 lbs Months 2-4: ~1.5-2 lbs a week, reached -41 lbs Months 5-12: 0.5-1 lbs a week, reached -63 lbs and passed my original goal weight at 11 months out Months 13-20: 0.2 lbs a week, currently at -70 lbs, 12 under my original goal Does this mean that you pretty much never dieted before you got surgery? Or are you comparing now to the first 6 months after surgery, where you didn't care about food much simply because you weren't hungry? After reading these boards for a few years, it seems that the people who have long term success do have to pay some attention to their diet to maintain their weight loss. But that takes a lot of different forms according to the specific issues and goals of different people. You won't necessarily have to pay as much attention to it in the long term as you do right now. Right now you're learning what works for you; later it will become habit. Especially if what you said above means that you never dieted much before - in this case you would be learning about what works for you for the first time. But for everyone, after bariatric surgery, you have to learn what your "new normal" is. Personally, my long term goal has been to maintain without having to calorie count. Before surgery, I was pre-diabetic and low carb was the only thing that ever helped me lose weight. After surgery, carbs are still an issue for me, though much, much less of an issue than before. Rather than limiting/counting carbs every day, I've found that having a 4-5 day period of low-carb every 3-4 weeks keeps my carb cravings in check. I still start my day with a protein powder latte and make sure that I have protein with every meal. Veggies help keep me full. If I feel hungry, I eat a snack, but I usually start with a piece of cheese or a few frozen meatballs (I love these things) before I have anything more junky. I eat sweets some days, but not all. I use things like sugar free ice cream or low sugar yogurt for a bit of a treat on other days.
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Lots of good questions, some of which I’m still trying to figure out. I’m concerned about the volume of food I’m able to eat 1.5 years out, BUT I have made major changes to what I eat, so my calorie consumption is still quite low. I have some go-to desserts: Protein bars - there are some incredibly delicious ones out there that taste like candy bars. You do need to be careful because some of them are loaded with sugar and high in calories. My favorite is Built Bars, which taste amazing and are lower in sugar and calories than most brands. Meringue - egg whites are MAGICAL. I use the same basic recipe three ways. For 25 calories, I take 1 serving of pasteurized egg whites (from a carton), 1/8 tsp cream of tartar, pinch of salt, 1 tsp flavoring of choice (I like half butter flavor + half vanilla, and there are tons of options if you look at LorAnn or One On One flavors), 1/2 cup Splenda, and whip in a stand mixer to stiff peaks. I eat it fresh over sugar free Jello (it’s very similar to whipped cream). Or I freeze it and it tastes like ice cream (makes about 1 cup, for just 25 calories!). Or I pipe it in little circles and bake to make meringue cookies (I usually get about 20 cookies in a 25-calorie batch), sometimes using light yogurt as a dip/icing. Plain rice cake (35 calories) sprayed with I Can’t Believe It’s Not Butter spray and sprinkled with brown Swerve and cinnamon.
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the closer you get to a normal BMI, the slower it goes. Those last 20 lbs were a BEAR for me to get off. Took forever. We're talking like 2 lbs a month the last three or four months. But I hung in there and finally made it. The reason being, your calorie requirements at that weight are MUCH lower than they were when you started. It takes about 1600 calories for me to maintain my current weight. I would have lost weight like CRAZY if I ate 1600 calories when I weighed over 300 lbs. For me to lose 2 lbs a week (which I could have done NO PROBLEM when I weighed 300 + lbs), I would have to eat 7000 fewer calories that week (well, I would have when I weighed 300+ lbs, too). That's 1000 fewer calories a day. When I was scarfing up 3500 kcal/day, that means I would have had to cut back to 2500 kcal/day. Now I would have to cut back to 600 per day. Ah...no. I could do that the first couple months out of surgery, but 600 calories a day at seven years out? No way. Plus it wouldn't have even been healthy. So I basically lose a couple lbs a month when I'm trying to lose weight. 8-10 oz portions - would depend on what it is. Greek yogurt, yes. Steak - no. Stretching your stomach - probably not. You'd have to really overeat, day after day, every day, to do that. you are hungry because physical hunger does come back for the vast majority of us sometime during the first year. And that's when things get a lot harder. I've never counted fats. And I wasn't on an ultra-low carb plan (mine was balanced), but the first few months, I rarely ate over 80 carbs a day since I had to get in so much protein. There wasn't room for more than about 80 carbs. Now i probably get double that - but I limit the "bad" ones. Mine mostly come from whole grains, fruits, and vegetables. exercise isn't that effective in helping you lose a bunch of weight unless you're talking swimming mega laps or running marathons. But it's great for your overall health, and you should do it regularly if you can. It CAN help you maintain once you get to goal, though.
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Maintaining Post Op Diet
BillyHalleck replied to lexx122's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
Disclaimer: Always listen to your doctor - or at least not me 🙂 When you read about the liquid stage pre surgery, its sounds nearly impossible. Actually, the hardest part is consuming the liquid. You wont be hungry. I found the protein broths were the most tolerable. Hated the fat free cream of something soups. My doc (may be different from yours) basically said for the first few days worry about not being dehydrated - to do your best on protein. Then it was protein based liquids - check out the protein waters, they aren't "heavy." Pretty soon thereafter, shakes, puddings, jello, yogurt. That's only about a week-10 days out. at that point protein isn't too hard. In the early stages, I agree with Queen - warm was much easier than cold. I thought this one was pretty tolerable: Protein Broth Wish you all the best for surgery. If its at all encouraging - I think it was the best decision I have made! -
18 days post VSG- can’t tolerate protein shakes
BillyHalleck replied to Tysheena84's topic in Gastric Sleeve Surgery Forums
Hey - I had a similar issue. Here's what worked for me: 1. Fairlife Protein Shakes - 42g version. So much better (for me) than the chemically ones. Though still dairy. 2. Non Diary protein powder + SF Jello/pudding mix. I hate Jello! I used sugar free almond milk + protein powder + SF pudding. Huge amount of protein, no dairy. Jello is just as good, but not my thing... 3. Are you allowed any solids yet? Soft scrambled eggs worked pretty well. 4. When you're allowed seeds (docs differ on this), consider some non-dairy chia puddings. Can add protein powder, non-dairy yogurt, cocoa powder/vanilla - very flexible way to get protein and fiber. Variants of this have become my go to breakfast even 6 months out since you can make a batch and grab to eat on-the-go. Hope that helps - I promise it gets easier every day... until, believe it or not, you look back fondly on the days when food was repulsive 🙂 Good luck! -
Food Before and After Photos
Kris77 replied to GreenTealael's topic in General Weight Loss Surgery Discussions
My not being able to eat ice cream is a good thing. I don’t even miss it anymore. Cheese I love and yogurt but don’t eat either bc they make me bloated. Plus they mainly cheese is pretty fattening so I’m good w not having it anymore But good to know there are other versions of them. I knew this about yogurt but not about cheeses though. I pretty much eat a lot of the same things over and over. I love love salads so that’s my go to for lunch every day. -
Do the best you can in between the two people. You cant please both people. The dietician will be less than pleased to be so put down by such a high and mighty surgeon. I bought myself a bariatric plate to remind myself of portion sizes. I cant even eat the meat portion yet never mind the veg and carbs. So I have 3 meals and 2 snacks, 1 is yogurt and 1 is home made veg soup made with milk. Just so I keep my gut moving. Just do your best. Let him sound off and condemn when you jokingly say you ate nothing but take out.
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I've had it a couple times and had no issue with it, although I get full too quickly from it. Greek food has been a staple for me this past year and actually I spent last June travelling in Greece so other than orzo you should be fine. I make a lot of shrimp saganaki, halloumi, and homemade tzatziki. With real feta and real greek yogurt not whatever that stuff sold in America is.
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What to add to meat to increase moisture?
Flab-U-Less Forever replied to Flab-U-Less Forever's topic in General Weight Loss Surgery Discussions
Not a huge fan of plain greek yogurt but tomato sauce sounds like a good idea (hopefully I will be able to tolerate it after surgery). I make my own and it only has 1.5 teaspoons of sugar to 84 oz of crushed tomatoes so I would call that low in sugar. Thanks! -
What to add to meat to increase moisture?
lizonaplane replied to Flab-U-Less Forever's topic in General Weight Loss Surgery Discussions
I use fat free greek yogurt on anything that I would normally use sour cream on, and very many things. So, I make taco meat, chili, and ground turkey stroganoff and mix all with FF Greek yogurt. It makes it easier to swallow (and ground meat is easier that like chicken breasts or pork loin) and it increases the protein content. You can also use tomato sauce; just look for one that doesn't have added sugar or make your own. -
Try eating things like cheese, fruit, nuts, etc. These are all calorically dense but "healthy" (although the saturated fat in cheese is debatable). And yogurt (with artificial sweetener or plain) is easy to eat. I can't eat more than about 500 calories unless I eat snacks.
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Food Before and After Photos
Kris77 replied to GreenTealael's topic in General Weight Loss Surgery Discussions
Yea looked super cute!! Breakfast looks good. Since my sleeve I can’t eat eggs anymore. Boo Makes me sick to my stomach, same w any milk products Ex yogurt, ice cream which is good. I never eat those. Haven’t had ice cream in almost 4 years. -
Welcome! If you don't drink milk, you may be a bit limited. It depends on why you don't drink milk. If you are vegan, then the protein water won't work as it has whey protein in it. If you are lactose intolerant, you may find that some of the drinks with whey protein will be okay, as will lactose free high protein milk. I would recommend bone broth, again, that will only be if you eat meat products. Also, pho, hot and sour, and tom yum broth can be awesome too. I didn't have 4 weeks of just liquids after surgery, only 1 week, then I could have yogurt. After two weeks I could have things like refried beans, which were great. Will you be able to have purees? There are many foods (like bean soups) that can be pureed. I would ask your surgeon what they recommend for you since you do not drink milk. I believe there is a vegetarian/vegan thread on here you can check out.
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I didn't have a strictly pureed stage, but early on I did have a lot of refried beans with cheese and fat-free Greek yogurt. I particularly like the Chorizo flavored beans. Greek yogurt without fruit bits is great, too. I also liked the ricotta bake. Another thing I tried was pureed buffalo chicken dip, made with just canned chicken, frank's hot sauce, and bolthouse yogurt ranch. It looked really weird but tasted good, You can also probably puree tuna fish with some mayo or Miracle Whip.
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Thank you, Yes I am stable in my weight and have been since the surgery BUT I want to lose about 20lbs more I just want to know the caloric intake and how many oz to eat, how many meals a day? etc I am so frustrated that I have no help... I had an eating schedule 10 am breakfast 1 pm lunch 5 pm dinner with 7am yogurt and 8 pm yogurt *but then i was told by a family member in the medical field, they have never seen anyone with this surgery have a "schedule"* So I stopped the schedule and gained 5lbs, so back on it i went Thank you so much for your reply
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I am almost 3 months out and struggle to eat anything resembling a meal because my stomach only allows tiny meals. I buy tiny pots of stuff from the supermarket. I got really fed up of the leftovers I had to throw away. For breakfast I might have a boiled egg or plain yogurt with home made apple sauce { frozen in a ice cube mould } or a passion fruit. Or a banana and peanut butter milkshake Lunch might be some kind of pate on 2 or 3 tiny melba toasts or some seafood in a sauce with steamed veg from a frozen packet. Or a tuna mayo salad, a small baked potato with cheese and a few baked beans, Dinner, chilli, chicken mince curry, Chinese minced chicken in lettuce cups, smoked salmon and scrambled egg, 1/2 Avocado with prawn mayo I try for 2 snacks a day. cream cheese with mini bread sticks, ham rolled with cream cheese, homemade soup made with milk and extra milk powder, mozzerella and tomato, jerky, chicken wings, however you have them, a sausage. Hope I have given you some ideas.
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I would agree that chicken noodle soup isn't a great idea at first - the chicken breast can be hard to eat and the noodles are just empty carbs, but why are you avoiding chili? I eat that a lot! It's a great source of protein, complex carbs/fiber (the beans) and veggies. Make sure you're getting your protein in. When I have chili I add FF greek yogurt in place of sour cream and some shredded cheese. I also use those on top of refried beans (really easy to eat in the soft food stage) and taco meat. I still eat a lot of FF sugar free greek yogurt, like Light and Fit brand, plus the plain unflavored to add to foods. I don't like the protein drinks, but I still have one every days or I can't get my protein in. You can get chili at lots of restaurants, and it's easy to make your own. I like going to Chipotle to get a "bowl" with no rice or lettuce, with some sort of meat, cheese, hot sauce, sour cream, and beans and that's enough for a few meals. I also like Barber chicken breasts that you can cook in a toaster or regular oven. I eat half of one of those plus some mashed cauliflower. You can also make "ground turkey stroganoff" (recipe can be googled) and freeze it in individual portions (I do the same with my chili) so you can have it ready in two minutes. 20 oz of ground turkey plus a lb of mushrooms is 8 servings for me. I find that ground meat is easier to chew and digest. Eggs are hard for some people to digest, but that's an easy thing to cook. Something else I make is a Joseph's low carb tortilla stuffed with Goya Chorizo flavor refried beans and shredded cheese, cooked in a pan, then served with FF greek yogurt. One tortilla (made like a quesadilla) makes two meals for me.
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Fallen off the wagon at 3 months post op
lizonaplane replied to ac0181's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
I agree with trying to see a therapist, but that can be very hard to find if you didn't do your surgery with a big surgery center in the US or where you live. I've heard that places outside the US (especially Mexico, Turkey, etc) don't provide much support after surgery, and I know from experience that finding a therapist trained in weight issues can be very hard. I would try to work on things like figuring out what you are feeling when you decide to order take out. Are you tired, bored, sad, angry, lonely? If any of these things are the problem, eating take out is not the solution. If you wait until you are over tired or way too hungry to eat, you are more likely to make bad choices with what to eat. It's not hard to keep better choices on hand. Try keeping low sugar flavored Greek yogurt, tuna, protein shakes, cheese, fruit, etc on hand. I travel a lot so I eat out, but I try to choose the best possible option (high protein, low carb) and when I'm home, I make something with ground turkey or chicken like chili, taco meat, ground turkey stroganoff, etc and divide it in portions to freeze so I always have something that takes two minutes to heat up. It takes much less time than ordering take out. I don't wait after drinking to eat (my surgery center said we didn't have to) but I definitely don't drink after eating - it's painful to me, plus we were told it would just flush the food down our stomach and we'd be hungry sooner. Try to get yourself to track, even if it's only every other day. You said you've been working since May 2021 on getting this surgery. There's no second chance after this. Even if you have a revision surgery, you may not lose much weight. It's now or never. -
Loving Protein-Packed Kodiak Bear Bites
lizonaplane replied to GradyCat's topic in Protein, Vitamins, and Supplements
To me, those are cookies. It has 5g of added sugar for only 30 grams of food. That's a lot of sugar!!! Sure, they have some protein, but so does yogurt, cheese, protein drinks, beans, meat, tofu, ... It might be nice for a treat, but only if I could stop myself at one serving. -
March 2022 Surgery Buddies
Flab-U-Less Forever replied to LilaNicole20's topic in PRE-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
So happy to hear you are rescheduled!! I just started to look at food/shake combinations that will keep me below 50 gm of carbs per day. I am allowed either shakes or lean meat and veggies for my 4 meal per day. I think I am going to do shakes for breakfast and lunch. A protein water and yogurt for a snack and then meat and veggies for dinner. Most of the days I planned out came to 750 calories, 40 g carbs, 95 g protein, and 20 g fat. My diet is to be high protein, low fat, low carb, low calorie for 2 weeks. Since I could just drink shakes 4 times per day for 2 weeks if I wanted (which I don't), I used that as a guide for my macros and calories goals (max 1000 calories, 80-120 g protein, 50 g carbs, 24 g fat). Its going to be tough and monotonous but its only for 2 weeks...right? -
Food Before and After Photos
lizonaplane replied to GreenTealael's topic in General Weight Loss Surgery Discussions
Ground turkey stroganoff for lunch today. I used 20oz of lean ground turkey and 16 oz of baby bella mushrooms. It made 8 servings. On the left is the serving, to which I added FF greek yogurt. I could only eat about half today. Usually I can eat the full serving (about a half cup plus about 1.5 oz of yogurt). I was trying to also eat some roasted fennel I made, but I didn't make much progress. -
I don't have any suggestions for you for pre-op, since I mostly ate lean meat (I've never been good at cooking tofu!). However, my stomach is fine with cheese, so I eat a lot of high fat dairy. Some people DO become lactose intolerant, but not all cheese has lactose. Also, kefir is more sour than bitter. It's also not necessarily high fat. I add a lot of fat free greek yogurt to my meals to add protein and flavor. It's great with chili, which can be done vegetarian post surgery when you can have beans again (I was permitted beans on pre-op).
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February 2022 Surgery Buddies
mmsackett replied to MeganMyers's topic in PRE-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
Started my pre-op liquid diet today and it has been hard. I got lots of sample packs of different protein shakes and waters to try. My pre-op diet is 2 shakes and 1 can of broth based soup and 1-2 Sf jello, yogurt or cottage cheese. I have a water jug for bariatric peeps that holds 64 ounces. It has times on the side so you can keep up with getting it all in. It has little encouraging phrases along the way. Im having trouble finishing it all now. Im scared of how difficult it’s going to be post surgery. I guess practice makes perfect. I had my last pre surgery appt with nutritionist this morning. I am trying to keep myself busy to stop thinking about food. -
February 2022 Surgery Buddies
Dcsjoc replied to MeganMyers's topic in PRE-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
The yogurt and creamy broths I was able to start 4 days post. I’m now waiting to move to phase 3 where I can start incorporating ground beef, Turkey, sauce and other things.
