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Something is kinda fishy here, thing is... the band hasn't been out long enough to have long term studies. It's only been out for about a year. In the beginning their sales pitch for the new bands was that there would be fewer slips and erosion. Well, slips are *still* on the increase and erosion is still the same. They also claimed that hunger would be less but they never backed any of this up with any studies. It was theory and sales pitch. What your surgeon may not have told you is that for many people it is taking freak'en forever to get to a sweet spot with the new mega bands and many never get enough restriction. It also came out from a FL convention just a few weeks ago that if you surgically reposition a band or replace a band you stand a 70% chance of a slip within 5 years. There is a study on Ghrelin, the hunger causing hormone. As a sleeved person I have had the Ghrelin producing part of my stomach removed. But there are studies that show some Ghrelin is reduced temporarily in banded people. Not removed, reduced. It's not a "forever" thing but temporary. But that happens with ALL bands, not just the newer bands. I see a whole lotta people having their "new and improved" bands removed on various revision boards. I think that the band makers just keep coming out with new things and new theories but no hard data. If I had to be banded again honestly, I'd want the smaller older generation band. I wouldn't dream of getting the new one. Weight loss is slower probably because it takes forever to get and maintain a sweet spot. The first six months of any WLS type is when people lose the best. After about 6 months you aren't as paranoid about following rules and such. You learn to eat around your surgery type. I've seen countless people posting that they are at 6-8 months and just now feeling some restriction. Well, by that time they aren't in it as hard and heavy as immediately after surgery. They just aren't losing well. Seriously, I wouldn't worry about which band you have. In the end they all do the same job. The rest is theory and sales pitch. If you make a new band that does the same thing as the last one you have to come up with something to sell the darn thing. So they do, it's call marketing. ;o)
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How many revisions had your surgeon done?
CowgirlJane posted a topic in Revision Weight Loss Surgery Forums (NEW!)
Okay, the surgeon I picked is very experienced. He used to do mostly lapbands, with some gastric bypass. Now there are almost all sleeves - with the occasional bypass and lapband thrown in. He has done hundreds of Gastric Sleeves and keeps records and stats on his patients. They have good data for 3 years and have results that exceed the "published" success rates. I guess I didn't ask the question of how many actual revisions they have done. It is less then 50. That is a drop in the hat compared to what some of the Mexican surgeons have done. I like my surgeon and their office, have no other reasons of concern, am blessed to have insurance coverage so I am inclined to stay with the path I am on.... but I have always heard that "100" of a given procedure is what makes a surgeon an expert. I am not sure if I should be worried. Given the relative "newness" of the gastric sleeve as such a popular procedure I am curious what others find in their surgeon's level of experience with revisions from the band to the sleeve. -
So discouraged! Revision from Sleeve to Bypass...Yeah right!!
1Day1Life4Now replied to O-Town Body Rock's topic in Revision Weight Loss Surgery Forums (NEW!)
I also had the revision from sleeve to RNY. you won't lose weight like you did after your first surgery. i was told i'd lose some but not a lot like i did before and that has been the case. At first it felt like i had no restriction but as time went by the restriction came back. Give yourself some time, you are still recovering from surgery. Keep doing the diet and the weifht will come out. -
Please please don't do the band. I had mine revised to the sleeve on the 11th. While I did initially do well with the band it was very short lived. I had suffered with it for 6 years. One major emergency surgery. And I learned how to eat around it to survive. Most bariatric surgeons won't offer it anymore. Sent from my iPad using VST
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Add me to the list of band survivors that would urge you to just say no!!! Lol I too am revising. My date is set for May 11th. I have actually had TWO bands because of major complications with my first band. Now after complications with my 2nd I am finally revising to the sleeve. It has been 10 long years. I am counting the days until this thing is out of me!!! Best of luck whichever you choose, but I would definitely say the sleeve is a better choice in my experience. Check out the complication and success boards on both Vertical Sleeve Talk and Lap Band Talk... That should be more than enough to make up your mind. There are risks with both surgeries of course but there are FAR more long term risks with the band and much more long term success with the sleeve!
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@@sleevemylife I am in San Antonio TX Low BMI - lapband did not work for me so I am looking forward to stop all the chronic complications I have put myself through by revising to the sleeve.
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I had a revision three months ago after having the band about 7 years or so The revision was the best decision I ever made. As my band surgeon advised me when I seem him, over 95% of surgeons are removing them as they are too much trouble. They are not a leave on option as I had first thought, one day it will have to come out due to some sort of complication. I lost about 35kg in 6 years (that is absolutely pitiful), the thing failed majorly, I vomited and slimed every day and even after I had all fluid removed, I still had pain every day - no slippage, no problem that they could see, my body just rejected what it was trying to do and mentally this made me very very sick. Today, I can't be happier, having the sleeve is the best decision I have ever made, I am a totally different person. I am happy!
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I also considered the band but then avoided it like the plague after consulting more with my wife. She is a surgical RN on the bariatric team at the hospital where I had my surgery so I had very good insight into everything ahead of time. My wife said they do a lot of revisions or removals of the band because they are just not as effective, they shift, they have complications (not that the sleeve can't have complications), etc... In fact, the bariatric center where I had my surgery shys away from the band because of those very reasons. They primarily shoot for the sleeve for lower BIM patients or patients who need to loose extra before getting the bypass, or for they do the bypass right away. Both are permanent changes with no foreign object being put inside your body!
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Food getting stuck... for hours!
UsernameTaken replied to jccanada's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
Ok, I had no idea food can get stuck also with bypass... I had band and that was happening to me a lot... I just had to walk around, maybe with my arms up, unbutton my bra, spit the slime and wait for it to pass. I am just revised to bypass so haven't had food yet for it to get stuck but that's definitely not a good feeling. Hope you feel better -
Confirmed surgery date!
SorryNameTaken replied to Ilianamarie30's topic in PRE-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
Congrats! It's going to be an exciting journey! I go in for my band to bypass revision just a few days after you on the 24th! I'm trying to hustle and get everything I need for the post-op diet. Hope to see you following up on here about your progress! -
Gastric Sleeve Revision Surgery
Grek79Ital replied to Grek79Ital's topic in Revision Weight Loss Surgery Forums (NEW!)
Yes, my insurance covered the revision and i did use the same doctor that did my original surgery for the revision, I honestly don't think it was his fault, nothing went wrong with what he did. -
Gastric Sleeve Revision Surgery
Grek79Ital replied to Grek79Ital's topic in Revision Weight Loss Surgery Forums (NEW!)
I am doing extremely well, i was just moved to solids today, i am down from 276 to 242 in a month. i even emailed my doctor to see if i can have a alcoholic drink cause i had a party to goto last night, and he said its fine, just dont go over board, i had one cocktail and i was fine, but its funny, i used to enjoy a cocktail or two, but i was hesitant lol. My insurance approved it rather quickly from the time the office put it in, the office handled it all, after my first surgery the insurance changed the 6 month to 3 months, but i was consistently going to the doctors so they used my reg visits weigh ins as the month requirement diets, also he made me do the minimal doctor visits like i didn't need to see the nutritionist, just had to go see the cardiologist, pulmonary, and get medical clearance, and i just called my psych from last time and she revised my note, this all went rather smooth, probably cause its the same surgeon as who did my original. Good Luck, let me know how it goes. -
I'm shocked how many people here think I'm rude, mean, insulting, etc. for being an advocate for a lifestyle change and the truth. "I'm not doing your challenge" well, that's why doctors do revisions on people. If you don't like what I have to say, then unsubscribe. Fact is, if you're having bariatric surgery or had, it's because you're consuming (or consumed) more calories than you burn.
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Revision in one operation or two??
Lynn B replied to chica's topic in Revision Weight Loss Surgery Forums (NEW!)
I've been unfilled for 6 weeks and will be doing the revision in one surgery on Sept 7th. At that time I'll have been unfilled for 3 months - my doc right now just wants me to be as gentle as possible so that my stomach tissue is not stretched or inflamed when he gets in there. Small meals, no vomiting, etc. I've gained 25 lbs in the last 6 weeks ..... grrrrrr -
Had Surgery Yesterday - Can Drink and Swallow Normally?!
ge0rgette2 replied to cowgirlcullen's topic in Gastric Bypass Surgery Forums
Had revision on 5/27 and couldn’t get liquids down. I had the same issues with the sleeve though even years out. Water bothered me all the time. Had to do sips all the time. Other liquids not so much. I just had lapro again yesterday as some of the scar tissue was giving me an issue. Was only 2 weeks. I hope this was just a fluke. -
How many revisions had your surgeon done?
CowgirlJane replied to CowgirlJane's topic in Revision Weight Loss Surgery Forums (NEW!)
He did tell me that the main concern on a revision is increase risk of leaks those first few weeks. There isn't alot of published data on leaks for revisions, but he said based on his very limited data, it is probably twice the risk of a "virgin" stomach based on his own practice. We are still talking single digit percent risk. He also told me that revision to bypass has much higher rate of complication - various complications had different risks, but they tended toward the double digit percentages. They told me that they had not lost any sleeve patients (ie no deaths) - revisions included in that ZERO number, so that counts for alot with me. -
a few questions (lapband to vsg)
*susan* replied to adavis's topic in PRE-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
Hi adavis, and welcome to the forums. Life with the sleeve is completely different than it is with the band. I had no idea just how badly my band had affected my quality of life until I revised to the sleeve. With the band, it occupied my mind 24/7. I was always thinking about if we go here, what will they have that my band will tolerate? Should I eat lunch with my coworkers or skip it again to avoid the pb embarrassment? I mean it literally affected every aspect of my life. With the sleeve, you really don't think or worry about that stuff anymore. I have found there is nothing I can't eat, nothing gets stuck and I have no worries. You can eat anything, just not as much of it. Now, granted, if you eat to much, you will be miserable, but that is part of the learning process of listening to your body and knowing when you are full and need to stop eating. -
So discouraged! Revision from Sleeve to Bypass...Yeah right!!
Airstream88 replied to O-Town Body Rock's topic in Revision Weight Loss Surgery Forums (NEW!)
I did not have a revision but with RNY it took until I started eating dense foods around week 6 (chicken, beef, etc) for me to feel the fullness. -
First...i am 110% happy and pleased with the band...last ALL my excess weight, AND in my case, was the EASIEST thing I could have done...the band did all the work! All I needed to do was change my lifestyle to meet the bands demands.... I never counted calories or measured portions other than within the first 2-3 months.... Have not had a single complication, no complaints, and today live a day by day normal life without giving anything much of a second thought, it has all become 2nd nature... I am not afraid of ever gaining any weight back, and cannot understand how I can ever "Fall off the wagon"...as long as the band is still there, properly adjusted and doing what it is, and has been doing for 3 years now.... Having said all that, I often think that perhaps I should have had the sleeve....I am always careful of the possible complications such as erosion, slippage that many people talk about here... I'm also concerned about leakage? I have 0% belly fat...which means my port is right there under a thing layer of skin, pressed tightly against my abb's....you can see every nook and cranny, even the tubing as it snakes 2-3" before going deep....looks like a tumor or something...it's hard, being a man, to walk around topless at the beach, etc...(always have to hold my beer in front of it) I'm 62 years old, and have considered revision to the sleeve before I'm 65? I am also well aware that the problems associated with the band are mostly exaggerated, and there is a "Sky is falling" mentality....a few people have a legitimate problem, then suddenly everybody is worried they are having the same thing.... But like I said...I am completely happy, could not be more pleased with the results and the quality of my life right now....
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I just had my band revised to rny. The lapbad is a piece of equipment and will eventually age and fail. My bet is that everyone with one will eventually need a revision. Mine lasted 11 years, but I've heard many fail at 5. My surgeon went as far as saying anyone still putting them in now should be sued for malpractice, they just don't work long term...10+ years and many people have issues with them and they have the data to support that.
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Band to bypass surgery
shellbell816 replied to angelicious117's topic in Tell Your Weight Loss Surgery Story
I had VSG November 2010 looking to do full RNY revision. Sent from my SM-N920T using the BariatricPal App -
1 yr and 10 months out (pics)
allies journey replied to BlueEyedAngel28's topic in Gastric Bypass Surgery Forums
I was 287 when I had sleeve surgery 0ct 2016 went down to 199 and back up to 237.9 ,just had RNY revision surgery on July 16th due to severe reflux getting worse with the sleeve. I am 4 weeks post OP and I am down 24 lbs. You look awesome and I am wondering how you got rid of any excess skin and no batwing arms. Mine already flap in the wind and I just hate it. You look so happy and confident. Congratulations. Allie in SC -
Can we talk about food aversion
nomorefattypatty replied to newmebithebypass's topic in Gastric Bypass Surgery Forums
Cottage cheese and peaches and greek yogurt are my rescue foods also. There are days when I eat food, but there are days that every time I think about food I get nauseous. Dont be afraid to stay on a lighter diet when this happens. Sometimes you have to go back to lighter diet and slowly add things back to your diet. I'm on my 3rd year after having the sleeve and I've learned to pay attention to my stomach more. I was 238, surgery at 209, The smallest I got was 142, I gained back about 25 pounds but when I'm strict with my snacking I can now easily lose weight like when I was 40 but I'm 57 and the sleeve is a good surgery but I have to revise to bypass surgery due to acid reflux. Sent from my SM-J337P using BariatricPal mobile app -
Hey, hopefully your stall has broken and you're on you way back down. I have a question for you though. You mentioned that you gained most of the weight back after your pregnancy. I'm just curious how much did you gain and how did you gain it? Were you eating not so great foods (carbs,sweets,etc)? I am really concerned about this because although I'm only 3.5 months post op, I want to have 2 more children once I'm in maintainence. Lol you have made me realize my worst fear. No offence to you but I'm so terrified of gaining the weight after pregnancy. Please if you can elaborate on what happened and how did your weight come back and lead you to a revision I would greatly appreciate it. And good luck getting back on track! Sent from my SM-N910C using BariatricPal mobile app
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Why am I holding onto my fat?
CowgirlJane replied to JustWatchMe's topic in General Weight Loss Surgery Discussions
I went through something very similar. I lost about 100-120# (or thereabouts) but still had more to get to goal. My losses were grinding to a halt and I had to ask myself some tough questions. 1. Do I actually WANT to be slimmer? I had lost enough that I was much healthier, was able to move and do stuff comfortably but I had a nice matronly look about me. the remnants of the "fatsuit" made me feel safe and comfortable. The decision to really push and get to goal was a little like deciding to strip in public - it was very very unsettling to me. 2. I had let certian "healthy foods" become my new junk food. Quest bars are fine once a day, but when you start nibbling them like the new snickers bar... your losses will stall. I had to really decide to not use food that way anymore. Really. Not even healthy food. 3. I had to change up my workouts to give me a bit of extra "burn". I went to high intensity interval training and loved it. I decided to go for it and hit my goal of losing 150# 14 months from my revision. I found out that for me, the loss of the fatsuit gave me a great deal of angst. My biggest learning from all this was the deep understanding of how that "anxiety" has always contributed to regains in the past. My surgery was Dec 2011. I hit goal in Feb 2013. It is now almost first of july 2015 and i am still maintaining... and I am very aware of all this now. The angst over how I look (that being exposed thing) is pretty much gone now but it was harder then you might think...
