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Hello- I had my sleeve done 2 yrs ago almost. I lost 28lbs only! My body shutdown and i couldn't go to the bathroom for over a year wo hospital help or other help. Now im able to i want to start over & do things right- my dr wants me to get the bypass and i really want to try to eat like i should have all along before getting discouraged w not able to go to the bathroom and ate however! Sugar- sweets- sugar! Im ready- is it possible? Help! Sent from my SM-N960U using BariatricPal mobile app
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New Member, Revised!
California Guy replied to California Guy's topic in Revision Weight Loss Surgery Forums (NEW!)
Yeah, the original plan was one surgery, three procedures in one day. They fixed a hernia and removed gall bladder. They had to stop there and program two corrective procedures before I could get the gastric bypass. Both surgeons took great care of me. I was glad I was able to complete the DS, especially during the same hospital stay. -
Just got the Revision from a 2013 LSG to DS 10 days ago. I'm recovering well and seeing excellent results. Everything went better than expected. Just graduated to Puree stage today after four weeks of a liquid diet. The diet was satisfying and I never went hungry. Now I'm adding some new foods to my diet for this 2 week stage. In these COVID-19 times, the hospital does not allow visitors so no family could visit during my 5 day stay. I had four other required procedures that week for a total of 3 surgeries over 4 days. I've seen a lot of great, relevant information on this forum. I look forward to getting through the journey with all of you.
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New surgery date
GG926 replied to Jeep_girl1313's topic in Revision Weight Loss Surgery Forums (NEW!)
Good Luck. I’m still on the fence but my situation is unique. Had a bypass 27 years ago and reversed it 5 months after due to malabsorption issues. I literally had a nervous breakdown. I was 345 at the start and 250 at reversal. I’m now 275, 5 ft 8 and 54 years old. Doc says I have a mass in my stomach from PPIs and a 10cm Hiatel hernia which is super large...he says bypass only option To fix all but I don’t want it. I’m so scared and feel like no one can help. Want to lose weight on my own, just lost 40 lbs. but even if I do, the hiatel hernia need to be fixed and Nissen Fundoplication I hear is not 100%. Can’t believe my predicament. -
Revision completed
ge0rgette2 replied to Tracyringo's topic in Revision Weight Loss Surgery Forums (NEW!)
I think everyone wants validation and want help with this journey. I am unsure - I know I've spoken to him in the past but I really was joking!! I can't be so serious this whole time -- it's a lot to learn all over again being revised than sleeved... It really wasn't a choice I wanted but I had too, I'm too young to suffer for another 30-40 years and would rather do it now, but ... with that said, and like I said above, I think everyone wants some help with this and some maybe, just maybe, are a bit touchy LOL Maybe he needs to be validated -
So exciting as these dates approach. @Boardfatgirl ... whose name will not be accurate soon enough we can be one day apart bypass twins! @colormehappy and @havethree... I have the same worries. I dreampt last a friend who recently passed from pancreatic cancer came to me and said not to do the surgery. I woke in a pile of sweat. It's the voluntary part, I think. When you have a family who needs you and a life to live and you choose to risk it... obviously in the hopes to better yourself. It's scary. But I'm trying to think less. Just ... think. Less. I've made the decision. My surgeon has done nearly 4000 WLS. I'm just trusting its the right thing.
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Has Anyone Voluntarily had a Revision done?? Please share
RickM replied to Micarbtb86's topic in Revision Weight Loss Surgery Forums (NEW!)
Strictly on a weight loss basis, from what I have seen over the years, I would not revise from a VSG to an RNY, simply because the two are so close metabolically that one doesn't really work any better than the other for weight loss. One may lose a bit more, maybe 10-20 lb, during the early post op stage when the diet is so limited during recovery, and the RNY malabsorption makes the loss a bit faster, but overall on winds up in the same place. In 2-3 years, you will likely be struggling to maintain your weight as you are now. If you need to keep yourself at, say, 1200 calories to maintain weight now, that will also be the case long term with the bypass. The RNY does tend to help with reflux problems (not guaranteed - some will still have it post RNY, or develop it later - but statistically better) but I wouldn't go through that unless it can't be controlled with medication. That is something to be medically evaluated, and if appropriate, that may be a good reason for such a revision. For weight struggles as the primary problem, I would look seriously at the DS as a better alternative as that is a metbolically stronger procedure than either the VSG or RNY. It is also a straightforward revision as it starts with your sleeve and adds the intestinal malabsorption to it. If appropriate, as resleeve can be done at the same time if there are any problems with your sleeve. The downside is that since the DS is more technically challenging for the surgeon, not as many surgeons offer it, so one sometimes has to look around to find one. Good luck! -
Revision completed
ge0rgette2 replied to Tracyringo's topic in Revision Weight Loss Surgery Forums (NEW!)
Always an expert. It was a little pizza snarky comment. I have been sleeved for 5 years I know the drill and now revised. -
@ge0rgette2,Yes RNY is a gastric bypass but there are others. Any WLS that re-routes digestion to bypass part of the digestive tract such as a duodenal switch is in this category. I learned this when my surgeon asked me to state my name, date of birth, and procedure before having me moved from my pre-op room. I replied gastric bypass and he had me specify explaining RNY is not the only one. This was particularly important for me because I decided against a duodenal switch. Just imagine if I awoke to the wrong bypass? It all sounds scary but it seems you have prepped yourself to do the right thing. Stick with your plan. Follow all of the rules. You will likely never dump. As for Hot Flashing... I've also got quarantine brain but someone in this thread asked how it compares to menapause. I've just had one menapausale hot flash and it was like a momentary hit from a blast furnace (or an open door to hell, lol). Dumping was very different. I felt the heat of a full body flush rise and dissipate in waves several times. I did not sweat but others have told me they were sweaty. Some just the face but others from head to toe.
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Thanks again!!! I've done all that from one time to another!!! I'm sure it'll be months before I can figure out what's best for me again! I always, never realized, that they do leave a little bit of the stomach, etc when they do a bypass. Whats a gastric bypass in regards to RNY .... I just know revision. My old friend, had sleeve about 2 years or so after me, she used to vomit all the time after a meal ... She learned new habits but she claimed the surgeon said her stomach was flipping .... we had a falling out, long story - but she in the process of us not speaking, which we've made up since, due to our boys getting married this year, figured it was best to put things aside for them and grandchildren being at each others weddings, as best men and their kids, etc... parties... Anyways - so she had a bypass I was told, she won't say she did - she denies it but her son told my son and FDIL. Why is it a secret is beyond me.. but she drinks like a fish on vacation, we see her on vacation every year and occasions - she does eat normally, so her bypass must have worked
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Okay - I've felt that then with the sleeve.... I just didn't know if it was like a rush to the restroom... that's all ya need on vacation LOL oh boy! Isn't RNY a gastric bypass? is there more than one bypass LOL omg, I'm so dead lately, I can't even think straight!! Must be the quarantine!! So the dumping with a bypass - with sugar/fat/etc, backs up in order to dump - wouldn't that be like indigestion with nausea and vomitting - I've had that with the sleeve .... omg - lots of symptoms!! OMG! Yes, I do put water out of my sight before any food - at least an hour before and after, I just can't do water or anything liquid most times - especially in the beginning of the sleeve... This is going to be like a process all over again.
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Obsessing about Plastic Surgery!!
catwoman7 replied to ChubRub's topic in Plastic & Reconstructive Surgery
I had my lower body lift in a separate surgery from everything else. I had to sleep on my back for AT LEAST a couple of weeks. And walking is harder after that than it was after gastric bypass (or at least it was for me). Getting in and out of bed the first few days was torture, and I had to use a walker once I was up. I had to walk all hunched over for a couple of weeks, as I recall. overall, I found this a much tougher recovery than was gastric bypass, at least pain-wise, but YMMV. -
Has Anyone Voluntarily had a Revision done?? Please share
Micarbtb86 posted a topic in Revision Weight Loss Surgery Forums (NEW!)
So I'm 3 years post-op. I got the sleeve and I'm looking into getting the bypass. I have been busting my butt working out, eating right up until the last few months because I started to give up hope. Anyhow, I have Thyroid issues that were finally diagnosed as hypo after a year and I'm struggling to lose more. I lost a total of 80lbs and it's slowly going up and down. I had acid reflux here and there but didn't think it was due to the sleeve the longest time. smh. Well, now I'm in the process of getting approved by my insurance. I should know my requirements this week. Has anyone got a sleeve to bypass revision done? If so can you share your stories, whether it was a success or fail, wins, and complications. What to expect. Anything you can share. HW - 283 LW - 208 CW - 230 GW - 160 Sleeve did on 05/26/2017 -
Obsessing about Plastic Surgery!!
Darktowerdream replied to ChubRub's topic in Plastic & Reconstructive Surgery
The only part I won’t be having is arms, since I need to focus on thighs and the lower body lift. Although there will be the augmentation. I had quite a few surgeries restricting mobility. Certain tasks I just have to work around managing myself. Like laundry. I did read that putting surgical tape can help the healing incision from getting stretched but I’m allergic to adhesives. I put a waterproof bandage on my drain site after bypass surgery and it left a burn mark for months ... i seem to get a cumulative reaction. The more I’m exposed the worse it is. I think sleeping will be the hardest. I toss and turn a lot. I try to sleep on my back but can’t for long. And laying on my side it’s flip flopping. I usually end up twisting like a pretzel. So I need to work on that ... I have high pain tolerance but hopefully can get the pain management in check post op. So I’m able to function. I am wondering how much I should be walking afterward. I am thinking it won’t be as bad as after the gastric bypass and gallbladder surgery. Which TBH I was bed bound and had a lot of difficulty just moving my body. I also don’t have 106lbs of body weight to lift ... im trying to push myself to plan but my head doesn’t work that way. I am wondering anyone’s experience with silicone tape for scars and if that helps with the tugging. I read it also does. I was just going to get scar gel or cream whatever doesn’t contain glycols. I didn’t use anything on my hysterectomy scar though and that one healed great ... I’m not overly concerned about scars just that they don’t get stretched While healing and cause any infection. -
Dumping is a syndrome that may occur following gastric bypass surgery. Often it is discussed in relation to RNY but it can occur with other bypass surgeries. Not everyone dumps. When part of the intestine is bypassed, sugar and fat are digested differently. The digestive tract can handle small amounts but if you over load your digestive tract dumping may result. Dumping may include any or all of the following in no particular order: dizziness, weakness, nausea, headache, sleepiness, foaming, vomiting, sweating, hot flashes, headache. I dumped once after sipping water immediately following a few strips of bacon. Half an hour later, the world was spinning and I was hot flashing. After forty-five minutes sitting with my head between my knees it began to pass. This was about two months post op RNY. I now place my liquids out of reach until 30 minutes after eating. I never want to experience this again.
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New Bridge Medical Center in Paramus, NJ
BSNJ replied to PSquared_vsg's topic in Weight Loss Surgeons & Hospitals
Not familar with facility, but my daughter had gastric bypass 10 years ago with Dr. Gritsus. Her surgery was at Chilton in Pompton Lakes. She has kept off her 110 weight loss to date. Dr. G was helpful and kind throughout the process. She was only 21 at the time of her surgery. I would recommend him as a surgeon. -
RNY Revision @ 12 Years Post-op
MSWDiet replied to Laneykins's topic in Revision Weight Loss Surgery Forums (NEW!)
At 10+ years post op I'm also battling ups and downs. My story is different from yours but the bottom line is getting rid of the excess weight. Have you considered options besides revision surgery? I'm likely covered for revision despite relatively low regain due to other health issues. You may improve your chances of approval by focusing on co morbidities caused by regain. A revision would be successful, but until I live differently I may face the same situation in another 10 years. My BEHAVIOR caused my weight gain. INTERMITTENT FASTING is helping me control this need to be full. I'm training my body and brain to understand that feeling hunger is not the same as starvation. It is helping me to drop the pounds and revise my attitude towards food. Jason Fung (search YouTube and online) and others have been my guides. My desire to be full is my eating disorder. Fasting helps me to focus on nutrition and understand when I need to eat vs when I want to eat. As an advocate of health at any size, my diet for life keeps me in good health. Periodically I tweak my program because of metabolism issues. When I stay with my program I maintainin. When I slip from my program the need to get full emerges. Diets to reset my pouch as someone already suggested work well for me. However, eventually I want to feel fullness again and I'm attempting to reset more and more often. This is why I'm working to become content with an empty belly and a well nourished body. I wish you successful weight loss and good health however you decide to accomplish your goals. -
it doesn't happen to everyone - most RNY'ers I know have never dumped. I've read about 30% do, but I don't know if that's an actual researched statistic or just some number that people throw around, but I'd say it sounds at least ballpark, just based on anecdotal evidence I've seen over the last few years. it happens when too much sugar hits the small intestine at once and your body goes into overdrive trying to deal with. It doesn't happen nearly as much with sleevers because they still have a functional pyloric valve that controls how much is going into the small intestine at one time. RNY'ers no longer have that because our pyloric valve has been bypassed. It can cause severe diarrhea (I don't think vomiting is as common, but some people have that, too). Also shaking, chills, cramps, flushing, rapid heartbeat, and light-headedness it can be controlled by limiting - or avoiding - sugar.
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I use to sweat and get hot on a cup of coffee in the morning with sleeve. I decided to not drink it with this revision but I changed my mind and took a chance this morning and nothing happened. Go Figure lol
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I do not get the need to rush your diet or advance to real food.. you should embrace the liquid diet as long as it's can seriously that is the best time to shed the most weight... I personally had no desire to eat after my bypass and I lived on shakes for months post op and pre-op shakes and it worked wonders for me... All you need is protein that's most important to heal your body and to recover and I lived off high protein low carb shakes and I lost a lot of weight they way didn't even care about eating food...
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What does this actually mean? I know with the sleeve, snacks were “slider foods”. With the revision I’ve read dumping a lot. Is that bowel changes or vomitting? I would think diarrhea as you dont have a stomach like you did prior to the sleeve and the sleeve. I will have to research more. I would have to be out to dinner when the time comes and then have to run to the bathroom or be on vacation etc lol
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Revision completed
Tracyringo replied to Tracyringo's topic in Revision Weight Loss Surgery Forums (NEW!)
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So I was originally going to have an EGD w Bravo before the revision surgery but plans have since changed. I’m wondering how many or if anyone else had the EGD/hernia repair (possibly) done at the same time as the surgery. The reason my plans changed was because the hospital had a major screw up w my IV placement on the day I was supposed to get the EGD; the team had a very hard time finding my veins because they are so small. Yes, I drank water the day before but that did not help. They put the IV in thinking they found my vein but turns out they were wrong; I think the line moved or something because I could feel some of the anesthesia but not enough to knock me out in the operating room. Long story short the surgeon called it off; the team basically turned me into a pin cushion and my arm was swollen because more fluids got into the tissue. So to get to my question, anyone had the EGD at the same time of the revision? If so, how did it go?
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Revision completed
Losingit2018 replied to Tracyringo's topic in Revision Weight Loss Surgery Forums (NEW!)
I am 6 months out now and on a regular high protein/low carb diet. I do not have trouble drinking and food does not go right through me. I have always tended to have constipation problems anyway. I take miralax every day. I have had maybe twice in the last 6 months that I needed to get to the bathroom quickly. Usually movements are normal though. I still have trouble eating things like steak, pork or smoked sausage if it has the skin on it. Nothing horrible or too hard to avoid though. I get very full on small amounts of dense protein. If I eat too fast and/ or too much it makes me sick. remember that your pyloric(sp?)valve is no longer intact like it was with the sleeve so you should not have trouble drinking with bypass. one word of advice is to take probiotics. I take them daily and could be another reason that I am able to stay regular. -
Does Food Still Bring You Joy? a newbie wants to know.
New&Improved replied to MaybeMeow's topic in The Lounge
Don't stress I had bypass and I'm glad I don't feel the need to turn to food 8 literally eat because I need the protein. I don't really feel the need to eat constantly like I used to and I'm glad.
