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For most people, no it really isn't that bad. I had two c-sections and this was a breeze compared to them, IMO! However, if you have a complication, it can seem like the world is ending. One thing I have noticed is that every time I'm stunned by someone's complaints about pain, nausea, etc, it turns out that person has some kind of complication. The complication rate is very low, but it's sure painful when you're the one who has that complication. The other thing that could be going on is that your friend could have a very low pain tolerance. There are people who can't handle much pain at all without feeling like they are dying. If she's young, has no previous medical procedures, or has never had a child, your friend may truly be feeling as if the pain is overwhelming. I've unofficially noticed that people who are older seem to have less pain with VSG. Maybe that's luck and maybe it's because we've dealt with so much more than the younger folks. Don't let your friend's misery become your misery. Just because she's having a tough time does NOT mean that you will have a tough time if you're considering revision to the sleeve. Oh, and from what I understand, the pain from a tummy tuck is way worse than the pain from the sleeve as well!
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18 days til revision woohooo!!!
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I'm a little over 3 weeks out from my revision from band to sleeve. I lost about 50# the first year with the band and then it stopped working and eventually I got to the point where I couldn't eat anything healthy without puking even though I had no fluid in my band. I gained back 25# and decided to go for the sleeve. Between the pre-op diet and over these 3 weeks I am down to what I was at my lowest with the band (might be lower now, but I only weigh once a week). I have been much more tired with this surgery, so plan for time to recover. Other than that, it's been great! It's what I thought I was getting with the band. After a couple of bites, I'm done. You won't regret it... good luck!
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Well, my surgeon's office finally called today to schedule. I am currently scheduled for June 28th. It may be scheduled for earlier, but I doubt it. They said that the doctor isn't on call after the earlier possible date. He likes to be on call after revisions in case there are any problems. That makes a lot of sense to me. They said that if he isn't going out of town, they will give me the earlier date. I guess we shall see.
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hi, i was banded in 2006, did well and lost around 70 lbs . in oct 2007, my band prolapsed(slip) and i needed revision surgery. the dr replaced the band. about a year later that band too slipped. i had m band removed in 2009. i since gained my weight back and I'm thinking of the sleeve. i did meet with 1 dr so far and he flat out told me he wouldn't do it. i was surprised because I've read of so many people having it done. he told me the risks would be too high because of the scar tissue from the band surgeries. he recommended the bypass, which is something i do not want to have. I'm wondering if anyone else had a dr tell them they wouldn't do this? I'm confused now. I'm am meeting with another dr in a few weeks to get another opinion. can anyone compare banded life to sleeve life? pros and cons? thanks
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I got the band in 2007 and just hated it. I only lost about 50 lbs then gained back 15 over the course of a couple of years. The same surgeon did the revision to the sleeve and I couldn't be happier. If you are in So. Cal see Dr. Paya in West Hills and best of luck to you.
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Thought I wanted the sleeve, Doc recommends RNY
Darktowerdream replied to rglad1267's topic in Gastric Bypass Surgery Forums
Im the odd one out perhaps since I was hoping for RNY to have some amount of calorie malabsorption due to extremely slow metabolism. Turned out the doctor agreed anyway since I had severe GERD so bad my ears would burn from it. Both have similar surgeries and recovery, the only difference is more initial restriction with RNY. Better to have RNY now than have sleeve and end up needing revision later. RNY is seen as the gold standard. -
Will I likely need all of the same pre- testing ( endoscopy, ekg, psychiatric screening etc) before having my band out and sleeve done? My dr does them at the same time.
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There is a good basic article on the subject over on OH: http://www.obesityhelp.com/forums/revision/gastric-bypass-revision-surgery.html While it seems that the more common revision is to the duodenal switch, the article says that revising to the VSG can also be done. The DS generally has better regain resistance than the RNY or VSG, so that seems to be the more common revision, but this can be an even more individual issue than choosing the original WLS. The article goes into some of the considerations in revising including analyzing why the original surgery failed and determining the appropriate response - behavior mod, reworking the original procedure or revising to another. Another good article is this one: http://www.dssurgery.com/about/publications/duodenal-switch-safe-operation.pdf Revising an RNY is a complicated procedure that relatively few surgeons are qualified to do (or that one would trust to do,) so travelling is often involved. Is your sister near you in NJ? Dr. Roslin in NY is one, Rabkin and Keshisian in Calif are also well qualified. Posting to the revision board and DS board on ObesityHelp will get you some more help on this issue (even if the desired or appropriate revision is to a VSG, the folks on the DS board there tend to be very protective of their procedure and picky about surgeons' qualifications, so they can steer you to the best revision surgeons who can help guide your sister to the best answer for her.
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Has anyone considered or is in therapy for weightloss/body image issues??? I know people do not like talking about therapy and please dont take it that I am snooping into your life....the question that has been on my mind for a while....mainly because I'm planning to have revision surgery in June and wondering would it be benefitial for me because I've been overweight since age 8, and since having the lapband for the last 7 years has failed me... I guess I'm just afraid of failure again and want to help myself as much as I can...
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hi all, looking for some advice. i had the band in 2008 and was revised to the sleeve in 2010. my lowest weight has been 145 lbs but i usually stayed between 145 and 149. i went on a cruise in september and even came home losing a lb, but since then my weight has crept up and today it was 152. i know its not a ton but dont want it to get out of control. what did everyone do when in this situation
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Introduction, My Story And Questions :d
Katie713 replied to beth0905's topic in Gastric Sleeve Surgery Forums
Here is some of the basic advantages to having the sleeve, I pasted the information from the Bariatric.us website. I went through the 12 week Kaiser pre-op program and received tons of information on the surgery and on the nutritional requirements before and after surgery. There are tons of success stories on this website and also alot of issues, mostly in the early phases of recovery after surgery. Most long term sleevers wish they had done the surgery long ago. I will be sleeved in April of this year, and I have been on restricted calories since last September and already lost nearly 40 pounds. I am looking forward to the next leg of this journey. The effects of gastric sleeve surgery are: restricts food intake controls hunger Following gastric sleeve surgery, food continues to move through the digestive system naturally, from the time it enters the stomach to the time it is released into the small intestine through the pyloric valve. The difference is that after surgery the amount of food that can be eaten at any one time is greatly reduced. The surgery also helps to control hunger, because the upper portion of the stomach that produces the hunger stimulating hormone Ghrelin is removed during surgery. Advantages Intestines not cut, rerouted, or bypassed, so does not cause malabsorption or nutritional deficiencies Keeps pyloric valve intact, thus reducing ulcer risk and avoiding dumping syndrome Food does not get stuck on way into stomach, as is possible with gastric banding Can usually be performed laparoscopically, even on very obese patients Safer and less complex than a combined restrictive/malabsorptive procedure, especially for patients with health problems Option for patients with health concerns or medical issues, such as anemia, Crohn’s disease, anti-inflammatory drug use, or prior surgery, that prevents them from other bariatric procedures Does not require a medical implant (gastric band) or adjustments Average weight loss of 30% to 50% excess weight in first eighteen months May be converted to duodenal switch for additional weight loss Revision option for gastric band patients -
Any tips on recovering from surgery alone?
Tomo replied to lussa's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
Since most surgeries are done laparoscopically, and most go home the next morning, other than someone driving you home, it's very doable to recover alone. They had me walking the hospital aisles every few hours right after the surgery till I was released at 11 am the next morning. I walked around a lot the day I got home doing light chores... Etc. Back to desk work on day 3 but you do feel very tired for a week or so. Again, as everyone will tell you, everyone is different. These are my experiences (both with vsg and revision to rny). -
Dealing with bansters when you change.
Becca replied to HunnyBunny's topic in Gastric Sleeve Surgery Forums
I was attacked on the Band Forum too when I started asking for help after my band was failing and broken apart. I was mad, but so glad my doctor told me about the sleeve. I have not met anyone like that here. The sleeve community is very supportive. I know for a fact that my band failied ME and not the other way around. I have had nothing but success with the sleeve. The band was a big, painful mistake and I am so happy to have it out! I do try to tell people my story if they are deciding on a WLS. I really think that eventually, the statistics on the band will speak for themselves. Especially with all of the revisions being done! -
You think I'm a cranky old geezer?
GeezerSue replied to GeezerSue's topic in LAP-BAND Surgery Forums
Nancy, I think I've been kicked off more boards than Sandy. Well, I'm banned more often, that's for sure. I'm here...I'm not thrilled with my tummy tuck, but I was warned in advance that a revision was likely. So, it's a few months off. Lipo, they tell, to even things out. But they don't want to do it until everything "settles." thank you for asking. Neicy, It's never a good idea to encourage me. I'm outta control enough on my own...but thanks for letting me know that I'm not alone in my thinking on the topics at hand! Sue And I'm closer to 60 than 50...way closer. So, I think I'm gonna start saying that 60 is the new 43. ;-D -
Cigna Insurance - WLS Benefits
HunnyBunny replied to WASaBubbleButt's topic in Gastric Sleeve Surgery Forums
and they cover revisions. band to sleeve -
Can those who converted from the band please help with some questions
Rev Me Up! replied to Beader's topic in Gastric Sleeve Surgery Forums
Hello- Congrats on your decision to revise. For me, it was totally worth it. Pain is not really an issue with the sleeve surgery. The drain is the worst of it. I had a residual ache from where the drain was after they took it out. It lasted a couple of weeks, but really only othered me first thing in the morning. I found the recovery with the sleeve much harder. You are very limited in what you can eat / drink because of the trauma to your stomach. Once the first 8 weeks passed, I was much happier. Some people take longer to heal than others. The first several weeks you will eat the smallest little thing and you will have to chew it up to nothing. Also, you will eat 2 bites and be shocked that you can't eat any more. Also, when you eat, it will be a loud, gurgly production. I also found that eating just made me feelweird - as if my body was sending all the blood to my stomach to eat and the rest of me just felt strange. This only lasts a few weeks, but can be a bit discouraging. After the initial shock wears off your body, you start to feel normal again. Personally, this is everything the band promised to be, but was not. It's not always an easy journey because of the emtional issues around food, but it does work. I was so happy to have my band out - the first thing I did after surgery was reach for my port site and smile when there wasn't a chunk of metal under my skin. Also, right before surgery, they unfilled my band. I stood there thinking that this is the LAST TIME someone will stick a giant needle in my stomach - YYAAAYYYYYY!!!!!!!! Good luck-- -
Looking for a revision doctor in Washington State
BigClive replied to BigClive's topic in Revision Weight Loss Surgery Forums (NEW!)
I had a consultation today and the surgeon recommended revision to gastic bypass over the sleeve. Did anyone else that has had a revsion get this same response? I'm more confused now than ever! -
Considering Vsg A Year After Band Removed....
Formerly Fluffy replied to Vicki0618's topic in Gastric Sleeve Surgery Forums
I have been researching VSG revision for about a yr. now. I still have my band, but would have it removed immediately if I could afford it. Everyone that I know that revised from band to VSG is sooooooo much happier with VSG!!! -
Management of Reflux After Sleeve using Stretta
Alex Brecher posted a topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
Chronic GERD treatment is challenging for patients who have had a sleeve gastrectomy (SG). In some patients, GERD is resolved after SG, but in others symptoms remain Nissen fundoplication surgery is not an option for SG patients due to altered anatomy Revisional surgery from the less invasive SG to Roux-En-Y gastric bypass (RYGB) has been the standard alternative for this challenging patient Patients who chose the SG, may want to avoid a revision to RYGB to control their GERD GERD medications (PPIs) if taken long-term may have a risk of significant side effects, including: osteoporosis, c.diff infections, kidney disease, heart disease and dementia For some patients, GERD symptoms are not completely controlled by PPIs Leaving chronic GERD uncontrolled can lead to Barretts Esophagus There is a clinical study currently enrolling patients on the management of reflux with stretta in patients who have had a sleeve gastrectomy. Email Rebecca Meli rmeli@montefiore.org to be referred to a study site. Please let her know that you heard about it on BariatricPal! For complete study details go to: https://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/NCT02637713. What is Stretta - and why may Stretta be appropriate for GERD after bariatric surgery? Stretta is an FDA cleared device that treats the muscle between the stomach and the esophagus with radiofrequency (RF) energy - it is indicated for the treatment of GERD. Non-surgical treatment delivered through the mouth, that does not alter the anatomy Delivers low levels of RF energy to the muscle between the stomach and esophagus Studies show Stretta results in a thicker muscle, improved barrier and fewer reflux events More than 40 clinical studies show Stretta to be safe, effective and durable Having a Stretta procedure does not complicate future surgeries when necessary A study of Stretta in GERD patients after RYGB showed 71% with resolved symptoms (Mattar et al 2006) -
Hi all,I'm 4 weeks out of a band to bypass revision and am consuming 2 low carb and sugar 25g protein shakes and water a day...plus 1 low carb puree but have only lost 9 lb....i lost 5lb on the lrd so its a stone in total.9lb in 4 weeks is so disheartening...i haven't lost anything at all this week ...
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Sleeve to Mini Bypass, The Good & Bad?
Hello2018 posted a topic in Mexico & Self-Pay Weight Loss Surgery
I’m considering a sleeve revision and heard good results from a mini bypass (mgb) rather than full RNY. I’m targeting an end of Mar 2018 revision date. Help please!! I’m at 205lb, 6yrs post vertical sleeve. 1) does is help with reflux? 2) what your weight loss total so far? 3) side effects? 4) positives? -
GASTRIC BYPASS REVISE FROM GASTRIC SLEEVE
Leslie JK replied to nomorefattypatty's topic in Gastric Bypass Surgery Forums
I had the revision July 8 i have had no more reflux, thank God. Highly recommend the revision Sent from my moto e5 plus using BariatricPal mobile app -
GASTRIC BYPASS REVISE FROM GASTRIC SLEEVE
eladams2015 replied to nomorefattypatty's topic in Gastric Bypass Surgery Forums
I had a revision to bypass from sleeve for severe reflux issues. I wish I had started out with the bypass in the first place. It is like night and day difference to not have that constant reflux happening. -
GASTRIC BYPASS REVISE FROM GASTRIC SLEEVE
allies journey replied to nomorefattypatty's topic in Gastric Bypass Surgery Forums
My surgeon's and gastrointestinal doctor said that it's absolutely going to work. I had no doubt about it until I saw this message. My reflux is severe and I am having RNY revision surgery on July 16th. Sent from my SM-G960U using BariatricPal mobile app
