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Pre-Op Liquid Diet
CrankyMagpie replied to SassyScienceNerd's topic in PRE-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
For folks who are on protein-only or protein-and-veggies-only diets for a while before the surgery, you can manage your symptoms with some of the suggestions on this list: https://www.perfectketo.com/keto-flu/ You don't need to take ketone salts (bleh, keto bros can be the worst), and you can't very well add extra fat to your diet, but the other tips--hydrate well, have bone broth (if allowed), and do what you can to replenish electrolytes (even if it's just drinking sugar-free gatorade or putting a pinch of salt into your water) are good ones. It won't fix everything--you're still starving your body (deliberately), and that's always going to be unpleasant. But it'll take care of some of the nastier side effects. Also, if you're allowed fruit juice, this isn't you. You're just hungry. But stay hydrated anyway. -
What are your favorite excuses?
GreenTealael replied to Supersecret's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
I avoided telling people about surgery but didnt hesitate to discuss my new diet. This was the 2nd greatest visible change. It looked similar to all the other programs going around : Keto, Whole30, South Beach, Paleo. etc... So I told people I changed my diet. To field anymore questions about it I encouraged the questioners to try my foods instead of me being pressured into trying theirs. That meant I often brought dishes of food I could eat along to events for everyone else to enjoy. I think it becomes more obvious if you make it a big deal and isolate yourself with a tiny Tupperware of food while looking miserable. And not every occasion is meant to be enjoyed with food. Sometimes you can just nurse drinks. Or say your not hungry, you've already eaten. I personally treated my diet transitions as the most natural thing in the world that shouldn't raise suspension because it was obvious yet not dramatized and I was confident in my choices. Good Luck 💚 -
Pre-op week and in constant pain
FluffyChix replied to drizz75's topic in PRE-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
Do you have a history of milk allergies, RA, or other auto immune disease? If it were me, I'd try other vegan protein powders, unsweetened and add your own sweetener. Try to get them as pure and unflavored as possible and see. I suspect you are actually going through keto flu--where your body switches over from burning carbs to burning fat for fuel. It makes your muscles and joints ache just like the flu. It can take 1-3 weeks of pain. But the good news is that you will be doing now, pre-surg rather than after the surgery! Call you doc and tell her about the pain. See if she can prescribe something for you? -
Dont think its "ketosis", to get keto you need your body consuming fat not Protein. Think its more likely gerd or protein breathe. I know Isopure left a nasty taste in my mouth. Sent from my SM-G530T1 using the BariatricPal App
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We seem to have 3 vocal camps running around. Low carb keto. Low carb non keto. Vegetarian. Everyone counts calories.
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Keto is mainly how I roll. Breakfast this morning was a handful of wasabi almonds, a slice of sharp cheddar and two slices of Swiss. Outstanding flavors. lunch is probably going to be an omelette of some type. dinner will most likely be grilled chicken breast as my son requested grilled chicken sandwiches with bacon and the works. I have yet to experience any type of hunger. I will get carb cravings if I eat sugar heavy foods like candy and other junk. Life is simply much easier if I avoid that mess and stick to hearty Protein and vegetables.
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After surgery were most definitely in ketosis...now I am on to lifestyle living and trying to find the style of diet that works for me. Ketogenic is something I have come to over and over again. Then I get a delicious carb inside of me and before I know it i can't stop. Does anyone here follow keto diet? What are your results, share your experiences. Thanks!
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Go for it. Keto is great. I Keto from time to time as a jump start to weight loss or to eliminate sugar cravings but often find I just don't enjoy that much fat after a week or two. I can still be in ketosis on more than 20 grams but less than 100 grams of carbs. So I find a low carb diet more sustainable. I just followed the eat protein first, then veggies and (then if I had room, which most of time I didn't) eat carbs adage and lost all of my excess weight.
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Successful weight loss surgery patients I need your help crossing the finish line!!!
blizair09 replied to onmyway11's topic in General Weight Loss Surgery Discussions
I have followed a keto way of eating throughout my journey. I hit my goal of 180 pounds (at 6'0") at 1 year and 4 days post-op (October 2, 2017) and have maintained at 173 pounds for several months now. I still eat keto, keep my carbs below 20-25 per day, and my calories per 2000 per day. I don't eat any differently now than I did when i finished the food stages at 8 weeks post-op (and I am 17 months post-op tomorrow). I changed my relationship with food before I even had the surgery. That has always been the key to my success. My recommendation is to determine what macros will allow you to lose weight and then stick to them every day. Also, determine how much exercise you need to do, and then do it. That's the way to lose weight and then maintain the loss. For me, food has become fuel and the eating process quite scientific. I'm not saying you have to do that, but it was necessary for me to meet my goal and maintain this 225 pound loss. -
Anyone else eat melba toast?
FancyChristine15 replied to angie_is_losing_it's topic in Gastric Sleeve Surgery Forums
I don't completely avoid carbs. I'm more into the "everything in moderation" mentality rather than doing Keto, not that there is anything wrong with either; we all have to do what works for us. I eat a slice of Ezekiel bread every day. I have never tried the Melba toast before though. -
Stretched sleeve at 2 weeks out?
Creekimp13 replied to birdsbride's topic in Gastric Sleeve Surgery Forums
Peanut Butter was approved by my nutritionist about a month out. I try to get at least half of my protein from plant sources, so nuts and nut butters are a regular part of my diet. (Many folks here avoid them completely...and that's cool...to each their own. I'm more of a Mediterranian diet follower, and some here are more into Keto and other plans...lots of ways up the mountain!) If you want peanut butter.... 1. Wait for it to be approved by your nutritionist. 2. Low or zero sugar natural peanut butter is best. 3. Watch your portions. One Tablespoon has 100 calories (roughly) and about 7 grams of protein. it's also high in fat...but good fat. All things to pay attention to, though, when creating your balanced menu:) Best wishes! Here's an example of how peanut butter could fit into a healthy day's eating: -
Sleeve vs. Bypass with my health situation - upcoming final appt with dr.
KarenLR75 replied to KarenLR75's topic in General Weight Loss Surgery Discussions
This is another thing - doing keto off and on for years, I've gotten to the point that if I did take a small bite of...a piece of cake..or eat anything that was highly processed or very rich like creamy Italian dishes, it upsets my 'stomach greatly' and I usually spend quite a bit of time in the bathroom. I like sweets, but I just don't allow myself to indulge in them. I've lost any taste for greasy fast food, I just shudder at the thought. I did 'Opti Fast' back in the Oprah winfrey days and lost 70 lbs and kept if off for a decade. That is one reason the pre-op diet really doesn't bother me that much, there is so much more variety to 'drink' than the 4 to 5 times a day 'shakes' that I drank every single day for almost 4 months. I realize I did not share with my dr that I have very very mild IBS. Stress and any 'break' from my keto WOL is what brings it out. Not sure that it will matter but I will mention it. I agree with you, surgery is not the "easy way" out. To me it's a nuclear detonation option...That is why I waited almost 5 years before allowing myself to finally pursue surgery. I had to make sure that I was fully committed to doing the very hard work that remains in front of me. Surgery is a tool, only a tool. -
I specifically asked my surgeon during a follow up about keto since my sister is doing it and we share some recipes. She said "no keto" due to the high fat. I still share some recipes and many of them are easy to modify the fat content.
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Macros for Baritastic App?
RickM replied to mousecat88's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
That's something that I never bothered with - if your protein is where it needs to be to maintain your muscle mass and your calories are low enough to promote weight loss (courtesy of our WLS) then the other macros really don;t matter - your diet will by default low carb and low fat. I just aimed to get the best overall nutrition that I could within that remaining non-protein portion of my diet, and ignored the software targets (most of which don't make a lot of sense with the minimal amounts that we are eating at this time, anyway.) In retrospect, my diet then was a rough caloric split between fats and carbohydrates, but that was just how things shook out, not a target. If you are inclined to follow one of the popular diets out there - Atkins, keto, paleo, South Beach, etc., they may have specific macro targets that apply to them, but they have nothing to do with your weight loss over the next year or so - that is dictated primarily by your average caloric intake. Personally, you may feel better being a little higher in carbohydrates than fats, or vice versa (carbs provide better short term energy, fats are longer term) so you can make adjustments based on how you feel. -
there are lots of yummy keto cookie recipes out there! might introduce people to a healthy alternative treat
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Considering surgery but don't know where to start
colebaby216 posted a topic in General Weight Loss Surgery Discussions
I'm 39 & a mom of 4 amazing boys (21, 17, 13, & 7) & I've been obese or morbidly ones since I was pregnant with my first son 21 years ago. I've tried Keto, Adkins, WW, etc etc & although I lose weight it never stays gone. As soon as I LOOK at a piece of bread, I gain a pound. I've long since cut out sugars & sodas. I like bread but I don't have to have it. I live in Northeast Louisiana & don't know where to begin. My doctor & I have tried medications, but she's anti- weight loss surgery, so talking to her get me no where. I've researched the different types of surgeries, but I don't know which would be best for me (probably because I'm not a doctor or nurse). I just know I'm tired of being 220+ pounds & I want to get down to 140-150 & there's no amount of dieting, exercise, or medication that gets me past 195. I know my insurance won't pay for it so I'll have to finance, which is fine, I just don't know where to start & I'm beginning to get depressed about the whole ideal. My boyfriend is amazing & tells me I don't need surgery but also understands my mental health & how this affects me. Can anyone help me? -
I don't think there's any real need to pay for a bariatric keto program unless you specifically need the hand holding. Low carb keto principles are all over the web. But for most of us, the higher fat levels don't work either keeping us from losing fully or making us nauseated. I just keep my macros very simple. Let's say for instance, that most people who are consistently losing are keeping calories in the 800-1000cal range. So the macros for 1000cals on a female of normal construction (ie not a body lifter, not large framed 6foot. I'm talking average 5'4" female): 30% Protein (75g protein); 60% Fat (67g fat); 10% Carbs (25g carbs--from low glycemic veggies, nuts, seeds, dairy, and low glycemic berries in small amounts). There are NO required carbs. None. Cuz the liver can make every spec of glucose needed for those few cells that require glucose and that can't run on ketones. Otherwise, fat from your body (and a tiny bit from your diet) supplies the ketones needed for fuel for your body. (For me, I have to keep fats lower cuz it makes me nauseated. So my most recent macros are more like: 30% Protein (75g prot); 50% Fat (56g); 20% Carbs (50g carbs)--My carbs usually around 30-40g whole per day and once you subtract out fiber, they are closer to 25-30g. I am def. in ketosis. But honestly most days I don't make 1000 cals either. I do get my protein range from my RD of 60-75g protein though. It's pretty simple. Lean meats/proteins, limit cheese and processed meats a "tiny" bit. Lots of leafy greens and low glycemic veg and a tiny bit of low carb berries if desired. Nuts/seeds/avocado/healthy fats. Healthy dairy if carbs and cals allow. And stay away from legumes, grains, sugar and as much sugar alcohols as possible. Eat cleanly and shop from the outer isles. Drink 100oz of water a day or a little more. Exercise (walk at the very least).
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Adding my info! 1. Pre op weight, BMI or measurements 249-250 lbs BMI of 44 2. Surgery type VSG in 2017 then RNY in 2019 3. Lowest post op weight, BMI or measurements and when it occurred 150lbs BMI 27 around 1 year post op 4. Maintenance weight, BMI or measurements and when it occurred 155 lbs BMI 27 around 18 months post op 5. Bounces (up or down) in weight, BMI or measurements and when they occurred I can bounce up and down 5-10 lbs depending on the season but my lowest was a 20 lb drop during an E.Coli infection 6. Methods used to maintain and what has/has not worked What works for me: Weighing daily/weekly, spot checking calories, low cal/keto substitutes, 90% disciplined eating and 10% debauchery. What does not work for me: gym membership as motivation, unsustainable diets and GLP-1 meds (as of now) 7. How your life has changed (losing vs maintaining perspective) During the losing phase I was very rigid almost never went off plan, now everything I want can be worked into my plan and I’m more relaxed. 8. Words of wisdom/cautionary tales/stories of beating the odds Cautionary tale: Don’t suffer in silence with reflux, push for answers and relief. Absolutely never compare yourself to anyone else. Don’t guilt spiral after a little weight gain, try to correct it as soon as you notice. A small gain is very likely in our population after reaching your absolute lowest weight. I remember when I first joined there was a some chatter about being absolutely perfect or you’ll gain it all back and it made me really anxious. Don’t be afraid to ask for help and other tools from your team. We are not quite the same as the never obese population so our bodies may play by different rules. Word of wisdom: Document your journey if you can. I don’t really remember what it was like to be in my obese body anymore, I only vaguely remember feeling bigger. Have other goals apart from losing weight. Once the newness of WLS wears off you may want to continue the momentum of achievement. If you want plastics (and there are no obstacles beside fear) definitely go for it. The recovery can be tough but it completed the journey for me and others I know.
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Any sleevers doing a ketogenic diet?
SassyScienceNerd replied to BigUtahMan's topic in Tell Your Weight Loss Surgery Story
I haven't had my surgery yet, but I've been doing keto for 2 months. I have dropped 25 lbs so far and I feel great. I definitely plan to keep doing it after vsg. Check out the Fitmissbliss blog, she's a VSGer who does keto now too. -
Keeping my mouth closed
GreenTealael replied to ZGal's topic in General Weight Loss Surgery Discussions
I haven't told my family about surgery, instead I told them about the post op lifestyle changes like that I stopped eating bread, pasta, grains (true) ,I eat keto style to lose weight (true when it was happening), I exercise and joined a gym (true), I walk everywhere I can (true) -
For me so far I found that if I stay below or at 900 calories per day I lose quicker at 1000 ~ 1200 I will stall. That just means my body has adjusted and stores all that it can. I am going to start switching to a Paleo and Keto diet every other Month or so to keep my body confused. But I still have to make sure I that my exercise and food intake ends up to be 900 calories per day.
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Coming up on 5 year anniversary and slowing starting to gain
Georgia replied to Shea_Shea's topic in WLS Veteran's Forum
I’m 8 1/2 years out and I’ve gained and lost about 20-25 lbs every two years or so. It DOES take will power and realizing we are losing like NORMAL peeps now. Keep it in check before it snowballs. I’ve always lost FAST. Not so much now and only thing that works for me is low carb/Keto. In process of losing that same regain now and have lost about 12 pounds doing Keto/low carb and not eating after 8pm til about 11am. Easy because I am a meat eater. You CAN do it. Just focus on NO GRAZING, snacking and basics! -
Coming up on 5 year anniversary and slowing starting to gain
erics300 replied to Shea_Shea's topic in WLS Veteran's Forum
Im hitting 5 years this may and I've also gained about 30 lbs back from my lowest weight this year I'm determined to loose it by starting a keto diet and start tracking my meals with MYFITNESSPAL app Sent from my SM-G960U using BariatricPal mobile app -
The weight creeped up on me. Time to get back on track
mi75 replied to lark60's topic in WLS Veteran's Forum
Also just about 5 years post op, had some regain too and lost it all with keto. Still trying to get the final push so I can have skin surgery. Keto worked 100% for me for the regain -
The weight creeped up on me. Time to get back on track
Kimcamm replied to lark60's topic in WLS Veteran's Forum
I can relate to this post. 4 years out from VSG and after 144 pound loss I have allowed myself to gain 60 pounds. I am ashamed of myself even typing that. I'm so embarrassed that for about 6 months I just did nothing. I'm through the woe is me part of this slip up and I am back to fighting. 9 days ago I started Keto. I am 4 pounds down and I can feel the inches melting. This is reminiscent of when I lost weight right after my VSG surgery. I am excited because Keto food is really good and I don't feel l like I am missing out on anything. This time I plan to exceed my prior weight loss and get to my goal weight. Thank you lark60 for sharing this post. It is encouraging to me to see that I am not the only one in this situation and with some perseverance and determination I can do it. We all can just one day at a time. Hugs to you all!
