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VSG or RNY?
Deactivatedfatgal replied to shaines9's topic in General Weight Loss Surgery Discussions
I decided on the sleeve because I thought it was less invasive compared to RNY, I also wanted a slow and steady weight loss to prevent complications associated with rapid weight loss, and theirs little chance of vitamin deficiency! With the sleeve, it's a tool to help you reach your goals but if you are not committed it will not work -
I have about 40 I need to lose. I gained a bit between all my complications and breaking my foot over the summer. I am more excited for the damn heartburn to stop. I keep reading all the stories where heartburn is completely gone right after surgery! I can't wait
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Over 50 and worried about safety!!
Diana_in_Philly replied to Eva Aycock's topic in Duodenal Switch Surgery Forum
@Eva Aycock - I had VSG in August 2016. (I didn't have a band prior.) I was 55 when I had my surgery and staring down dual knee replacement because I'm bone on bone in both knees. I'm down 82 pounds. I'm training to run a 5k in 4 weeks. When I started training 4 weeks ago, I was "running" (that's a charitable description of what I was doing) a 15+ minute mile. Yesterday, I ran a 12:09 first mile. I was scared, too. I had never been through any of this before. I had no complications with the sleeve, so I can't speak to DS, but I can say it was the best decision I have made in my life (after deciding to marry my hubby and have kids). I feel 10-15 years younger. I was in the hospital overnight. I had my surgery on a Tuesday, was home by 3 Wednesday afternoon. I'm a desk jockey who works in the office 2 days a week and from home the rest of the time, but was back at my desk on Monday. I was back at the gym in a week after surgery doing cardio on a recumbent bike. Assuming you have no other health issues which would make you a risk for anesthesia, I would think you'll be ok. I know its scary and its ok to be scary -- but isn't the thought of dying young due to obesity frightening, too. Wishing you all the best on your journey. -
8 1/2 months out...
Deactivatedfatgal replied to Dashofpixiedust8's topic in Weight Loss Surgery Success Stories
Who is this new woman?! YOU look absolutely AMAZING! If you don't mind me asking what were your complications -
Is it possible to revise Roux en Y
RickM replied to 2014malves's topic in General Weight Loss Surgery Discussions
There are several ways to approach a problem like this, and generally surgery should be a last resort - the more you cut the more you get backed into a corner and remove future options - but such revisions are possible. Have you consulted with your surgeon, or another bariatric surgeon? The RNY has been around for a long time (the basic procedure has been around for some 130 years!) and is the most widely performed weight loss procedure, so there is considerable experience in the field with the various complications that can arise, so your problems are not going to be unique. An RD (registered dietician) would also be appropriate to consult. Many on these forums poo-poo nutritionists/dieticians because they usually aren't falling all over themselves to recommend the latest fad diet someone saw on YouTube, but problems like these are right up their alley. A bariatric or hospital RD can be a good choice - many are bored stiff dispensing post-op diet plans to discharging patients who really don't care and want to get out of there, but they really thrive on someone bringing a real problem to them. They are worth a try. On the surgical revision front, since most revisions are done because of poor weight loss performance or regain, and the sleeve and RNY have similar performance, there usually isn't much to gain by revising an RNY to a sleeve from that perspective, and most surgeons aren't going to have a lot of experience in doing so. There is a small group of surgeons around the country who do perform RNY to DS revisions which does involve revising the RNY pouch to a sleeved stomach in addition to all of the fiddly work in altering the intestinal configuration (which you don't particularly need.) Two docs that I can think of in your region that do such revisions and would be worth consulting if you get that far are David Greenbaum in north Jersey and Mitchell Roslin in NYC. Both should also be well up on the nutritional problems that people can have with these different procedures as they tend to work with the more difficult case. Good luck in getting this worked out, whichever way you go. -
RNY or Sleeve! What to do!
carlychloe2 replied to starlight_dreams's topic in General Weight Loss Surgery Discussions
I am 58 years old with HBP, Sleep apena ( just diagnosed), athritis in my knees and hands. I do have a lower BMI, about 70 to75lbs to lose. I have had gerd for years but not so much anymore. However i have meds in case I need it. I orignally wanted the sleeve after doc told me about possibly the heartburn side effects of the sleeve, i leaned towards rny. I read all about rny and complications many years out and did not know what to do. I was so confused. At my 1st consult with the surgeon he thought I had a hiatial hernia and said " lets get a EGD and go from there". Had that done and on my 2nd and last consult he said, he would fix the hernia and he thought the sleeve would be a better fit for me and he did not seem concerned with the gerd. So Im trusting him and believing, and praying that I will not have any gerd issues down the line. I feel good about my choice as I worried so much about many complications down the line. Wish me luck 4/11 is the day!!! And I wish you all the best. -
Complication fears
1poundatatime replied to laGata15's topic in PRE-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
I worried about that too. In the end it was a matter of facing the facts. If I went on living life at 258 lbs or - let's be honest - gain more weight, I am 100% likely to run into "complications" anyways. Heart disease, hypertension, pain, mobility issues, diabetes, etc. Obesity is a risk factor for so many types of cancer as well. So, yes, it's a risk. Losing weight without surgery is better, but I had to be honest with myself and admit that wasn't happening and decided whether I would waste more time "trying" or just take the plunge and be proactive. I'm post-op day 7 and couldn't be happier. -
I'm among the few that did have complications. At 4 days out, which was my second day at home, I had some internal bleeding. My blood pressure dropped to a dangerously low level and I was rushed to the hospital by ambulance (in a big snow storm). I had a second surgery the next morning, which ended up only being exploratory as the bleeding stopped on its own. While this was unpleasant and dangerous, I'd repeat the surgery again even if I knew about the second surgery ahead of time. At 3.5 years out I'm still down 150 pounds and only 5 pounds above my goal and all time low. It's worth the risk. Go for it and don't look back.
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Complication fears
bones_girl206 replied to laGata15's topic in PRE-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
I have avoided the complications portion at all costs, because knowing about them isn't going to make the situation better. I signed my forms last week basically telling me what the worse case scenario was and I have been an anxiety ball ever since. There's enough people available to tell me about the bad stuff, but with PCOS, adrenal issues, and thyroid problems I was already heading for a future I don't like. So, this is the thing I can control and follow through with. We're all going to be okay. -
Checking in tomorrow and starting to get really scared
Crystalita83 replied to vsg2266's topic in PRE-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
Congratulations on your surgery! I am still Pre-op and have 1 more weigh-in to go. I am also extremely nervous so it makes me feel better knowing that this is normal. I probably will be even more nervous once I get approved and get a date. Did anyone ever 2nd guess their decision due to thinking about possible complications? ? -
RYGB revision/reversal into a sleeve
2014malves replied to southern sassy's topic in Revision Weight Loss Surgery Forums (NEW!)
I'm in similar place as you trying to figure out what to do. You actually had RYGB revised to sleeve? I wasn't sure that it even was possible there's so much conflicting information online. How are you feeling now just about a year later? My health is declining rapidly due to malabsorption turning into malnutrition creating so many health issues and hitting scary lifetime low weight 103lbs having trouble even maintaining that weight. My overall appearance is of someone slowly starving to death. Pancreas issues, hair falling out, teeth decaying, slow healing from even minor scratch, poor skin condition/quality, abdominal pain, no appetite, fatigue. I just feel/look so unhealthy. I want to speak with new bariatric surgeon, my original surgeon who I loved and trusted left to start a new center in another state, about having a revision to gastric sleeve hoping it will help with absorption problem and that will in turn help resolve other related health problems. Right now I don't feel strong enough to survive any surgery though. Has it helped/worked for you so far? Any complications? Any issues with insurance? -
I am not sure whether I'm going to have to do a two week liquid diet before surgery. I think the results of the echo and gastroscopy of tomorrow will determine if I need to do a liquid diet or not... It's incredible how strong you are to actually face your problems and be able to work on them! I hope I'll manage to do that too, because I really want to change my lifestyle and not constantly let (bad) food control my life and to find ways around the sleeve. That's definitely not my intention, but I don't know if I'm still going to be that strong when I'm actually facing these problems, that's something future me is going to have to deal with. I can imagine the first week being one of the toughest, especially with complications... I always drink a lot with my meals too, so it's going to be quite the adjustment having to do that separately. Can you properly drink a bottle of water? Or do you get your water intake by slowly sipping throughout the entire day? And about how much water can you drink now, 8 weeks post-op, during the day? Do you feel like each day your intake is still improving?
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The two week liquid diet prior to surgery and then the liquid phase after surgery was a big wake up call for me. You're right, it's like giving something up cold turkey. In that time I came to realize how much control food had on my life and spent a lot of time thinking of my relationship with it and how it had to change. I look at it as the surgery being an aid to help that relationship. It's a stop gate to help keep me from going down old/bad roads. The other thing that was a slap in the face to wake up was seeing so many posts on this forum asking "when I can go back to eating/doing this?" Essentially asking how do I get around my sleeve/bypass so that I can still cheat from time to time and eat bad things. I totally get not wanting to give up everything in our lives and still enjoy ourselves from time to time, but some seemed to want to take the approach of not changing eating habits. Basically it was wanting to continue to eat unhealthy foods but since I won't be able to eat as much it'll be okay. Umm...no. I won't lie. The first week was tough. It didn't help I had some complications, but it happens. Pain wasn't ever a big issue outside of being really sore the first day. It was the difficulty in getting fluids down the first few days due to all the swelling. Honestly it goes by quickly and within a few days you're on the road to getting back to normal. I'm a big drinker too and as odd as it sounds I was more worried about that than issues with food. I don't drink near as much as I used to, but still drink plenty. The main thing is breaking up the drinking from eating. I had a bad habit of drinking a lot while eating so that's been the main reason I don't drink as much as I used to.
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Is it possible to revise Roux en Y
2014malves posted a topic in General Weight Loss Surgery Discussions
I'm 10 years out Roux en Y with major issues suddenly from malabsorption causing malnutrition experiencing pancreas problem, poor declining general health, trouble healing from even minor scratches, hair falling out, teeth decaying, general feeling of being unhealthy and unexplained weight loss with trouble even maintaining current below normal healthy weight with numerous Vitamin and mineral deficiencies not helped by supplements. I'm wondering if a revision surgery, if it's even possible to do, from current status of Roux en Y to the Gastric Sleeve would improve my health overall. All the required plumbing is there it really seems like just a matter of creating a new pouch and changing the location of where my stomach pouch connects. Rearranging the current way my pouch connect to the gastric sleeve way of connection on my small intestine. I know I'm making this sound so simple when in fact it's probably extremely dangerous and very complicated if it even is at all possible. I just think in theory it should be possible and can happen. Wanted to ask if anyone has had it done and what your experience has been like prior to having a possible pointless discussion with my Bariatric surgeon about it. My current overall decline in health has me reaching for any possible way to help stop what feels like my slide to eventual premature death from the gastric bypass caused health problems. Any thoughts/suggestions?- 3 replies
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Complications are a reality, but if you look at the statistics they are still on the low end. On day three my spleen decided to bleed for the fun of it and it was rough, but it was a fluke thing that happened. This site draws in a lot of people and many are only going to post when something is wrong so it can skew things. Despite having complications myself I really wouldn't worry about it. Just follow your doctor's guidelines to the letter and you should do just fine.
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Forgot i was on post liquid diet!!!
Shell Renewed replied to The thinner me's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
Even if it didn't feel bad, please don't do it. Your sleeve is inflamed, full of stitches, and healing, so it's important to take your post-op care guidelines seriously to avoid complications. Don't think of it as a diet at this stage...It's a post-surgery recovery prescription. -
Hw 421.7 Which Was The Day Of My Consultation With The Surgeon He Asked That I Lose 50Lbs For Him To Do The Surgery Because Of The Possible Risk And Complications That Was On Wednesday 3/15/17 Leaving That Office I Wanted To Cry Because I Was Ready Had All The Insurance Requirements Only Thing I Needed Was to Send In Everything For The Insurance To Accept It And A Date. I Have Hypothyroidism I Been Obese All My Life And Never Could Lose More Than 3Lbs Before Gaining 10 So I Was Scared And Ready To Give Up By Now 6Days Later With My Low Calories Diet, Exercise, And Dedication I Am Down 19.7 Lbs I Currently Weigh 402.0 From My Starting Weight 6Days Ago Of 421.7
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Is it just me.....?
laGata15 replied to anniebanana's topic in PRE-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
I hear this almost everyday. I am getting the sleeve on April 17th and my mother is constantly trying to talk me out of it because my aunt had The bypass and it went terrible for her. She sends me videos and stories of other people who had it and complications.... It's to the point where now its really messing with me and making me not want to get surgery but at the same time something in me is telling me I will be fine. Conflicted is what I am lol. -
My surgery is April 17th. I ventured into the complications section of this website and it scared the hell out of me lol. Those leaks and lil pouches forming on top of the stomach seem to be a frequent complication. Now I am scared and having cold feet. Like maybe I shouldn't mess up my body and leave it just as God made it. This surgery got me feeling all types of ways lol.
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4 days out of surgery and you're able to eat soft foods? I'm 2 weeks out and finishing my full liquid phase tomorrow then move to puree foods. I'm terrified to eat/cheat with anything because I know the complications that can result. But I'm confused as to why some are able to eat so soon after surgery and I'm supposed to eat puree and soft for 3 weeks and then start a regular diet week 7?
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Hi all, I had my sleeve surgery March 5th 2014 with zero complications and lost 130 lbs my first year. I got pregnant 1.5 years out and gained 20 lbs during the pregnancy, and that weight came off very quickly after delivery. But unfortunately during the pregnancy my hunger came back full force, and I stretched my sleeve no doubt. My baby is 13 months old now and I feel like even though I still can't eat as much as I was once able, I am able to eat more than I am supposed to, also I am slipping calorie-wise. I was doing so well the first couple years, I had fought the head hunger to where it wasn't a problem, and now it is back. Making unhealthy eating choices, etc. I have not gained back much, 10 lbs or less, but it is noticeable (clothes are snug and overall feeling sluggish and terrible.) Those who are years out, how do you keep focused? This is a lifetime commitment and I should NOT be struggling at only 3 years out!! I feel like I need to start from square one, with Protein shakes and all that. Please any advice is much appreciated.
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RNY or Sleeve! What to do!
Navigating the Wilderness replied to starlight_dreams's topic in General Weight Loss Surgery Discussions
Ah yes, went through the same dilemma. In fact I changed my mind the week of surgery, for the exact reasons that you list. That being said, I have heard there are some metabolic benefits to the RNY that the sleeve does not provide, but I am not sure if that is true, and if so, how long those effects last. I can tell you in the 9 weeks since I was sleeved I have not touched a blood pressure pill. My BP has been perfect. Also, my sugars have been in the normal range ever since surgery. So, with the sleeve I was able to get rid of 2 medications. As for sleep apnea, I have not had a sleep study done yet, but I was at 400lbs so it will be a bit until I loose enough weight to help with that issue. Ultimately you have to decide which you are comfortable with. I personally think all things equal the sleeve produces about the same weight loss and with quite a few less risk factors, but then again I chose the sleeve, perhaps someone with RNY has had better results than I have. I'd personally rather lose less weight and not have to worry about the complications that come with RNY. As an aside you will see a lot of evidence suggesting that GERD becomes a real issue after the sleeve. I had GERD, with pills and chewables each day I still had issues. Since the surgery I have not had a single problem with reflux, but then again I am only 7 weeks out. -
My esophagus swelled the morning after my surgery. I had dry heaves and it was very painful. My surgeon ordered a swallow study, which found the swelling. A very common complication, and easily treated. I ended up spending three nights in the hospital instead of just one. They treated it with steroids and it resolved pretty quickly.
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I just need to get mine removed. I've had more complications with it then success. I also heard the sleeve isn't the best. Good luck with your upcoming surgery.
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It is definitely a lifestyle change, you fall off the wagon sometimes but the key is to get back up. I continue to listen to my stomach when it is full I stop. I have zero regrets and have not experienced complications since. Very content with my results. SW:287 CW:167