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HI, PG! How are yo doing? And, did Green Tea...have revision (of a sleeve, or...?) I'm curious to see how it goes. God bless.

I am considering revision surgery to gastric bypass , but its for numerous reasons , all of which i have been open about because i value the honesty of people as everyones journey is not going to be the same , just as thinking of revision surgery is not an easy decision or one that i think anyone takes lightly . I had my band fitted in nov 2012 after many years of struggling with my weight , i had tried pretty much everything on the market but continued to struggle so looked into wls , after speaking to my then dr who supported me and new how hard i had tried and the negative effect it was having on me . I had to self fund , a cost of £7000 , for which i took out a bank loan . I had the band fitted and numerous fills and defills and managed to loose in total 49lbs , but i struggled to eat protein/salad etc and my struggles were never consistant , what i managed to eat one day i wouldnt necessarily be able to eat the next . Approximately 2 yrears ago i decided i had had enough so had all my fluid taken out and try finishing my journey with the band just sitting there , it didnt work , i hit the menopause and lost a close family member and gradually put on weight so i was then only down 28lbs . After struggling again to loose i decided to find a clinic so i could have fills again and i guess start from scratch again drawing a line under what had past , my clinic is very supportive and during my first visit { in april} i told them of my weight struggles since being bullied at secondary school and how i felt like a failure , i broke down in tears and together we restarted my journey , but it hasnt been easy , i had a fill of 3mls , then 1ml and a further 1ml , but a few days after getting to the 5ml mark i couldnt even swallow liquid and the pain in the middle part of my chest was terrible , i had to wait a couple of days before my clinic could squeeze me in as my local hospitlal wouldnt touch me unless they deemed it life threatening ! Since then i have had 2 defills , each 1/2 ml so now have 4mls in , that intense pain is no more but my struggle to eat is just the same and sometimes get reflux , this morning i struggled with yoghurt , then later home made soup neither with any lumps , surely that isnt right ? , the situation gets me down and i feel meal times are a battle ground , i continually feel tired and low , yet i am trying so hard to eat healthy , since april my weight loss has only been 7lbs . MY point is my reasons why i am now considering revision to bypass is really two fold , struggling with weight loss and problems just eating and after 7 years i am fed up with it all , i new the band was only a tool but i did not expect the problems and struggles i am enduring . I see my current gp tomorrow and an adviser to chat about revision in september , if i go ahead it is a big deal as i never went in for the band ever having to consider revsion , and the cost this time will be £11,000 which is also a very big deal along with the risks any surgery bring , i hope this hasnt been too long and drawn out but i just wanted to add to the current chat , i value all posts and the support it gives which otherwise none of us would have .

@GreenTealael hey bud - i must have missed topic of you having revision surgery could you send me the link so i can read it - (or @FluffyChix) take care hugggggs☺️ kathy

I don't understand what you're trying to tell me here. Do you want to express that someone having revision because of GERD deserves support more than someone having revision because of regain? Because then we would actually really disagree.

Hoping all went well for you. My RNY REVISION SURGERY IS 8 AM TOMORROW. 🥺Very nervous about it and not really knowing why.I did great with the sleeve surgery. Anyway good luck with your journey. Allie in SC Sent from my SM-G960U using BariatricPal mobile app

I respectfully disagree. Severe GERD isn’t a joke, it’s painful, it carries an increased cancer risk and the reason for the revision is different. I’m glad people who choose to share their stories do so. I learn a lot just by reading, and like I stated earlier, I had no idea a revision for GERD was even a thing!

From the posts I've seen, it's just a matter of being clear. We make friends here and we just want to be forthcoming. I've seen plenty of posts about revisions for additional weight loss, or band failure, or sleeve failure, etc. and it's not like people beat them up over it. I think people just want to explain why they're having another major surgery. People who don't want to provide details, just don't.

If a person posted, they had revision due to insufficient weight loss and not a surgey complication(GERD) would you have the same reaction?

they probably say that because they feel like they've failed the surgery if the revision is due to weight gain. Whereas with a medical reason, like severe GERD - they don't feel that way.

It doesn't really bother me. But I actually kind of wondered why you singled out the word "anger", lol. 😃 I guess what I wrote in answer to your post about the WTF-moments is what describes it best. "You're going to get surgery again, general anesthesia, risk of preoperative complications and all and this is what is important to you right now? To make sure that everyone on here knows you're not having surgery again because of weight regain. Ok." Maybe I simply don't understand the reason behind it. Absolutely. And I personally don't think the reason for getting revision is important when it comes to giving support.

I apologize I isolated the word anger from your post, you do strike me as angry about it, my bad. It clearly bothers you and I am confused why. I didn’t even know needing a revision for GERD was even a thing until I read about it last week. This sh*t is hard, everyone knows how hard it is to lose weight and keep it off. If I needed a medical revision, I would be scared, frustrated and hope for support. I also would be very proud of my weight loss.

I'm not even sure if I feel really angry about this or not or if I even have any particular feeling about it at all. However, I think sometimes I have some kind of a WTF-expression on my face when I read about someone getting a revision and emphasizing that it's not because of "weight". Like "You're getting a revision because of some serious sh*t and it's that important to make clear it's not because you've gained weight?!". In the end, what does it tell about a community when its members feel the need to make absolutely and 110% clear in advance that they're getting their revision not because of "weight"?

Getting a revision based on medical necessity (severe GERD) is a very important distinction and is helpful for everyone to be aware of. Secondly, everyone knows that revision surgeries are generally less effective when weight regain is involved, therefore the outcomes will be different. There is no expectation of weight loss. You might want to contemplate why this angers you.

This is something I read ever so often: "I'm getting a revision - but NOT because of weight REGAIN!!!!" Like, users on here are so very eager to point out and make sure everyone knows that they're not getting their revision because of "weight regain" or "insufficient weight loss". So, in a "supportive" community people needing a revision make sure to let everyone know in advance that it's because of reflux or other things but NOT because of weight issues. Wow. Don't get me wrong. If someone is getting a revision it's absolutely fine to tell people why if you want to. In fact I think it's indeed very important to talk about revisions because of complications like reflux etc. since having surgery is no piece of cake and **** happens all the time (e. g. look at what happened to Alex only recently). However, what rubs me the wrong way is this "but NOT because of weight issues", as if that would be something... dirty or naughty or something to look down upon. I'm not even sure how that makes me feel exactly. Angry? Sad? Pissed? Disgusted? Anyway, I can't help but being struck by the sky-high judgement level within the WLS community when it comes to struggling with weight/food issues after surgery and needing a revision because of weight regain or because of not-making-it-to-goal-weight (goal weight being of course BMI below 25). Very curious about the reactions coming my way now.

What made you have your band removed ? im thinking of having revision surgery to bypass due to continuing problems and dificulty eating , its bad enough at home but when i go out with friends or family who dont know about my band i get anxious and generally struggle , good luck with your new journey

I am headed in for my revision surgery today. I am not sure the DS was offered to me. Instead, he is going to reduce my pouch and my stoma size. Ia m so looking forward to being in your boat with progressive weight loss after. It is great to hear you have zero complications after. How long was your revision surgery?

Have you considered revising to a modified duodenal switch? I had a RNY revised to this procedure on June 21st with no complications. I have lost a over 15 pounds since surgery and am doing everything to make good choices because it's a lifelong commitment. I have suffered the battle of the bulge also for years and was thankful to meet a revision specialist. Good luck and i hope you find your peace whether it's surgical option or non. Sent from my LM-Q710(FGN) using BariatricPal mobile app

omg , it sounds like you have been so unlucky , i must admit i thought once you had bypass surgery you couldnt have it reversed but guess there was no choice , wish you well , and thankyou for creating this forum so others of us can get advice and guidance . Im now looking into having revision from band to bypass , if you knew then what you know now , would you do the same or different ?

hi all i just love this forum for info and advice , i have read all the responses and found them very useful as i am considering a revision sutgery from band to bypass , i guess the thing is we will all have a slightly different experience , i did my homework before having the band but it hasnt been as i had hoped , i know it is only a tool but never expected to struggle so much despite my efforts , you are all doing great !

Hi, in the intro section I explained that, after 19 1/2 years, I am going to have a "tune.up" Revision details in my other post This is my third time with bariatric surgery, and I am ready this time. I am working, hard, on my three major obstacles to a healthy post bariatric life. 1. Small portions I had my friend, Annoying Jan, come and stay with me for two weeks. She is 70, looks like senior Barbie, is incredibly active and is always dishing out advice. I decided to listen to her for a change. She spent time with me looking at portion control, frequency of eating, dealing with the evening hunger that has always defeated me. I told her "F Off!" A few times.... but she was patient. The first week was hell. The second week I began to eat like Jan, Small breakfast, Small lunch, Small dinner and a very small evening snack. Very wonderful food. Organic eggs, fresh veggies and fruit, nuts, beans, low fat cheeses, soups, guacamole. We had "tapas" for dinner. Small portions of delicious things. Thought I would die at night, but I got into the swing of it. I tripled my water consumption and took a lot of walks and completed a lot of tasks on my todo list. Also went to bed early. Its been two months and I have stuck with the routine. I am still friends with Annoying Jan. She made me walk up hill two kilometers last week. I did it, much to my surprise. Having a friend that believes you can do something is so helpful. She came with me to the surgeon consultation and is so supportive. She has not had bypass surgery, she is just really aware of what she is consuming and she has been studying me for years, trying to coach me. She believes in the surgery after doing research. Its the best for me and she will support me. I love Annoying Jan. 2. Timing drinking and eating Target: No food after drinking anything for at least 20 minutes. I am going for 30. More difficult: No drinking while eating. Most difficult: No drinking for at least 30 minutes after eating. I am targeting 45 minutes. "OKay Google... set timer for..." is my most frequent phrase. 3. Getting the nutrients in What a difference 20 years has made! I have planned for and ordered the special bariatric vitamins and minerals. I am setting up reminders on my phone to alert me to take my pills. I have been reading labels and testing protein powders for the past two months and have ordered everything I need. I have ordered several books, recommended on this forum site where I can find recipes to make nutritious smoothies and soup. I was 10 years old on my first diet. I am 62 now. I am blessed with no serious health issues, a strong body and a couple of really good friends. And now, I have this wonderful community to come to for inspiration. I feel that all this pre surgical work, on setting up routine and dealing with night hunger is going to help me long term. I have gone through some serious health issues in the early years post my first by-pass, and turned my health around and that took about 10 years of work. I maintained most of my weight loss. now, I am ready to get the last 50 off. Some of you might have an annoying friend who may be your biggest supporter if you are willing to accept their help.

i get my revision from sleeve to bypass on tues if you want to keep in touch i'll tell u all about it.

A similar stomach revision is called a StomaphyX. There are several that make the stoma between the stomach and small intestine smaller.

Yes, I know. My Dr. thinks that he may, after fooling around with my stomach, improve things in regards to the reflux. Here is a link that sort of shows what he is going to do with my stomach, https://www.wlshelp.com/stomaphyx.html The Dr does not know what he will do until he gets a good look. The objective is to keep food from moving too quickly from the stomach to the small intestine, make the stomach smaller and (hopefully) do something to help with the reflux. Next, he will revise the bypass. So, I am not your typical person. I donated my kidney to my brother over 35 years ago. I really take care of my kidney health and the medication used for controlling reflux can damage the kidney over time. I also have a thing called MGUS that also can result in kidney damage as it progresses. So, if I can get off the meds.... that will be one for me. I avoid animal protein as well. Glad there are so many great plant based protein products now. That will also help. My kidney is perfect, and my brothers is still working very, very well. I just want to keep mine that way. The family is now out of spare kidneys.

I have to admit to being very confused as to what type of revision this is? I am also wondering what is being done that will help with the reflux.

Oh. I am not familiar with all the terminology. The surgeon wrote "revision" on the quote. I assumed it just meant, change. So, he will be making the opening between my stomach and small intestine smaller. He will examine the stomach and see if it can be smaller if necessary. Secondly, he will modify the existing RNY. The purpose will be to bypass a greater distance. So, it's a two part procedure.