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Like @ms.sss I too lost more than my original goal because it took a while for me to work out the calories I needed to maintain. That is the number of calories my body needs to function. Eat fewer calories, you lose weight. Eat more than your body needs, you’ll gain. I slowly increased the calories I was eating as I was physically able until I reached the number of calories I needed to maintain. I lost another 11odd kilos over a year after goal. Been happily sitting at about that weight (+/- 1kg) for about 9months. But I’m really still a newbie. Time will tell. I do have wriggle room if I do succumb to the 5 odd kilo rebound gain in years 2 or 3. Even though my BMI is on the lower end at around 18.7, I’m certainly not bony nor look undernourished. Honestly, you can look a little drawn when you get near your goal but it all seems to settle after a couple of months. Eating a little more: a few more carbs, vegetables, fruit, etc. all helps. A year ago, my uncle very kindly (not!) told my mother I looked like death. Now he tells me how great I look. As for looking older. I don’t think I do. Most importantly, I can actually see my real face now: cheekbones, jawline, eyes, etc. because there’s no fat distorting it shape. You may meet your goal, you may not or you may exceed it. Age, genetics, weight loss history, metabolic rate, etc. influence how much weight we can lose after surgery. But let’s be honest (some straight talking coming), in the end we control what we put in our mouths & that is the biggest influence on our weight. I think your weight is individual. Not just a number on a scale or a number you’re ‘supposed’ to be but how you feel in your own skin. Happy, healthy & enjoying life.
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“Too thin” is all relative. You won’t know at what weight will look “too thin” to YOU, until you get there, and when you do, it’s generally quite easy to stop (just eat more or more higher calorie stuff).. To date, I have only read of exactly ONE person on here who got BELOW normal BMI range and truly struggled to stop losing weight (and i’ve been on here for almost 3 years). Most peeps stuggle got to get/keep the weight off. Granted, i’ve read of people who lost a few more pounds after entering maintenance, but I don’t think anyone was truly unhappy about it for very long (i’e., weight came back or they just ended up liking being thinner). Personal anecdote: I got to normal BMI range and stopped before I reached my original goal of 120 as I too felt like i was looking too thin at 127. Ended up losing a bit more, but not because the lbs were just melting off by itself, but because it took me a couple months to transition from consuming weight loss calories to consuming maintenance calories (like breaking a habit, physically AND mentally). Eventually I stopped at 115, and have been sitting here (+/- 5lbs) for over 2 years. Funny thing is I think (and others agree) that I looked waaaaay more drawn and gaunt immediately after weight loss phase at 127 than I do today at 115 (i think it’s because of the carbs, lol) Good Luck! ❤️
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In the beginning, God created the Heavens and the Earth and populated the Earth with broccoli, cauliflower and spinach, green and yellow and red vegetables of all kinds, so Man and Woman would live long and healthy lives. Then using God's great gifts, Satan created Ben and Jerry's Ice Cream and Krispy Creme Donuts. And Satan said, "You want chocolate with that?" And Man said, "Yes!" and Woman said, "and as long as you're at it, add some sprinkles." And they gained 10 pounds. And Satan smiled. :phanvan And God created the healthful yogurt that Woman might keep the figure that Man found so fair. And Satan brought forth white flour from the wheat, and sugar from the cane and combined them. And Woman went from size 6 to size 14. So God said, "Try my fresh green salad." And Satan presented Thousand-Island Dressing, buttery croutons and garlic toast on the side. And Man and Woman unfastened their belts following the repast. God then said, "I have sent you heart healthy vegetables and olive oil in which to cook them." And Satan brought forth deep fried fish and chicken-fried steak so big it needed its own platter. :hungry: And Man gained more weight and his cholesterol went through the roof. God then created a light, fluffy white cake, named it "Angel food Cake," and said, "It is good." Satan then created chocolate cake and named it "Devil's Food." God then brought forth running shoes so that His children might lose those extra pounds. And Satan gave cable TV with a remote control so Man would not have to toil changing the channels. And Man and Woman laughed and cried before the flickering blue light and gained pounds. Then God brought forth the potato, naturally low in fat and brimming with nutrition. And Satan peeled off the healthful skin and sliced the starchy center into chips and deep-fried them. And Man gained pounds. :faint: God then gave lean beef so that Man might consume fewer calories and still satisfy his appetite. And Satan created McDonald's and its 99-cent double cheeseburger. Then said, "You want fries with that?" And Man replied, "Yes! And super size them!" And Satan said, "It is good." And Man went into cardiac arrest. God sighed and created quadruple bypass surgery. Then Satan created HMOs.
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Should I have high expectations?
thinoneday replied to victorbeatles's topic in Tell Your Weight Loss Surgery Story
Victor, welcome. . first off let me congratulate you on your decision to have the VSG. . second off i'm glad you found us, we are always here for you if you need us. . . well victor, let me tell you. . in 7 short weeks after my surgery i have lost 53 lbs. . . so you see it is dueable. . however, you get what you put into it. . . as a medical person you understand that. . . the first week or so after surgery it's feels really weird, can't explain it, but it does . . . you will have to relearn to eat, and drink again. . . in the beginning i hated my sleeve but then got used to doing what i was supposed to do. . . the sleeve doesn't allow you to gulp fluids anymore, you will be full (turkey dinner full) after a few mouthfuls . . . for example here is what my day menu for today consists of. . . Breakfast Protein shake and a baby teaspoon of flaxseed sugar free, low fat Peanut Butter. (200 calories) Lunch: 3 slices of 98% fat free ham (60 calories) Dinner: 2 oz extra lean ground hamburger, made into tiny little meatballs soaked with teriyaki sauce 3 small brusselsprouts (165 calories) Evening Snack: 4 oz Dannon Light N Fit yogurt frozen (60 calories) Total calories for the day 485 . . . I drink alot of Water along with decaff coffee. . . I try to keep my calories anywhere from 500 - 600 per day no more. . . You will do great as long as you follow the doctor orders and ignore the head hunger. . . once you get over that you will just fly through the weight loss. . . they say it takes 30 days to change a habit. . . well this overeating thing has been a bad habit of ours for a long time, takes alot of work to change it. . . but it can be done.! Good luck:biggrin0: -
Losing Too Much Weight
It's all new replied to tlong's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
I know someone who was sleeved and this became an issue for them as well. It was the psychological component of increasing calories and fear of weight gain that kept the loss going - sounds like a similar issue. My friend was also concerned about possible anorexia. We haven't spoken in a few months so I am not sure if the issue resolved - but I can say you aren't alone. I agree with the previous post, counseling is important - preferably someone with experience with bariatrics, if not then someone with eating disorder experience. This is usually not a case of simply "eat more" - as you already know that is the solution but can't get yourself to do it. -
Weight loss has stopped [emoji33] goal realistic?
dreamingsmall replied to am3ie's topic in Weight Loss Surgery Success Stories
You know what. If you like toast have it. Those carbs won't stop you from dropping. I was only saying I'd ditch it. As then I can save the calories as it doesn't do much. But you need to enjoy life too lol. I'm not doing low carb and I've lost over 50 lbs in 3months. I don't intentionally do low carb. But they are not high. You need to do what is sustainable for you that's important. I used to eat alot of bread. So it's shocking I don't eat it now even though I'm allowed lol -
Weight loss has stopped [emoji33] goal realistic?
mylighthouse replied to am3ie's topic in Weight Loss Surgery Success Stories
Thanks, I appreciate the encouragement and agree that I can do this! I also agree that I am not done losing. I see my surgeon regularly because of other problems and he told me a couple of weeks ago that he thinks a good goal weight for me is 175 pounds. He said it might take me another year to reach that. I believe the reason he said it could take that long is because like you, I don't get exercise. Not by choice, but totally unable to do a whole lot other tham arm exercises and occasional short walks. I guess if I got exercise then I would still be losing with my calories up in the 1100-1200 range, who knows. Oh, and I am 5'7". I have actually tweaked my menu plan on fitness pal a little more since I replied to you this morning. I am going to continue to keep my protein grams at 100 or a little more per day, because it has always worked well for me. I think my carbs for today were around 26 grams. Got my calories for today around 960. Can't open myfitnesspal at the same time I am typing this, so going to try to remember my menu for the day. Breakfast 6am: 11oz premier protein shake 1/4 c 2% milk 10am: 1 hard boiled egg on 1 piece low carb double fiber wheat toast 1 tsp hemp seed oil 2 T psyllium husk Lunch-noon 3 oz homemade hamburger chili with green peppers and onions 3:00pm: 2 oz baked chicken breast on 1 piece low carb wheat toast Dinner 6pm 3 oz baked chicken breast mixed with 2 T mayo and with diced celery and onion (homemade chicken salad) served on top of raw spinach with cucumber 1 t hemp seed oil After dinner snack if hungry: 1/2 fuji apple I think that is about it, if I remembered correctly. For drinks, I do regular coffee in the mornings and start my water drinking early. Decaf coffee in late afternoon or evening if I feel like it and water all day up until bedtime. I am the type of person who can eat the same foods regularly without really getting tired of them. -
Weight loss has stopped [emoji33] goal realistic?
mylighthouse replied to am3ie's topic in Weight Loss Surgery Success Stories
Would like more replies on this topic because I have been stalled for 2 months myself. Well, to explain further, I am almost a year out from surgery and I have been bouncing between 200-206 pounds for 2 months. My starting weight was 312 on Nov 14, 2016. I am wondering the same thing as you, am3ie, and wondering if my body is done losing weight. I am 25-30 pounds from my goal. Tracking what I eat every day, getting 1000-1250 calories a day with 100 grams of protein and 30-40 grams of carbs for the last 4-5 months and prior to the past 2 months, the weight was falling off. Anyone got an idea/ experience with this that is near a year out? Anyone, anyone? Bueller? When was your surgery, am3ie? You look great by the way! -
exercise...what my mind tells me I can still do but my body.....
lisacaron replied to Cindy Fischer's topic in LAP-BAND Surgery Forums
Hi Cindy, I don't have a gazelle, but I think it's like an elliptical is that right? I have done Zumba before I will tell you that doing that cardio work out will help you burn mega calories if you put your full effort into it. For me I find the classes (where people are watching me...ahhhh) to be a little more motivational for me to put my full effort in. When I'm at home I tend to slack a bit, and relax my form and my steps a bit. There are also some videos in the Zumba series that I think focus on toning and sculpting as well...I have not tried them. I confess I have the whole box set along with the hand weights but I have yet to use it. I also have not been on the elliptical machines here at the office gym mostly because I am so short and they kind of scare me a bit. The one time I got up on the machine it was a fairly intense work out! It was pre-band and I was about 60 pounds heavier then now...so perhaps I will try it again. Most of the gym rats that I work with here Swear by those machines and are very upset if they are unable to get there in time to nab one of them for their work outs. We have 6....and they are always moving in there with someone doing a work out. Maybe this afternoon when I go, after my walk I'll give it a shot if only for 10 minutes...you have inspired me to shake it up. -
People Losing 2lbs+ wk and exercising - What is your daily menu look like?
shelly1066 posted a topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
For those of you who are losing 2+ lbs a week and doing cardio 3-4 times a week, do you know what your daily calorie intake is? What is your typical meals like? I do spin class 3-4 times a week and my weight loss is 1+ (if that some weeks) and I dont think that im getting enough food? -
Weakness, Short of Breath, Rapid Heartbeat...
girly.girl posted a topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
Hi, I am 12 days post-op and since day 7 I have had shortness of breath, tightening in my chest, and rapid heart rate. I have been in contact with my doctor and he is only concerned with my calorie intake and hydration. He did order bloodwork and that came back normal. I have improved my liquids to and am now getting at least 50 ozs a day. I push for 60 but am getting there. I am having the hardest time with Protein shakes and liquids. They make me gag and I don't want to start vomiting. I did have low blood pressure when I went in for my last visit. anyone experience this after surgery and any suggestions?? I just want to have enough energy to get through my day and function normally... thanks, -
I agree with the above, you have to keep a journal everyday to see how many calories and protein your are getting. I find the days I don't eat enough I protein or eat too little, I don't gain, but I don't lose either..One day at a time..M-
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Every body is different. Mine GAINS on 1200 calories a day--this was identified before I was banded, and is the reason I pursued banding. I need to stay in the 800-900 calorie range WITH daily (or twice-daily) exercise in order to lose. Luckily, that's pretty easy accomplish, now that I have restriction. I am very careful about the foods I choose (because stomach real estate is limited)---and do emphasize protein, getting carbs only from veggies, legumes, a bit of fruit, and a bit of dairy. This approach has worked very well for me. Something to keep in mind, though: you're pretty freshly postoperative. Your body simply is not all the way healed from the trauma. Right now, you may not need to focus on tweaking your diet at all---you may just need to wait out the swelling, etc. (If you decide to relax a bit, do make sure to get plenty of Fluid, adequate protein, and take a good bariatric Multivitamin.) Another thing to remember: your body has ample reserves of energy--so you do NOT likely need to increase calories in order to lose. There is NO peer-reviewed research that supports the notion of "starvation mode." If you have excess body fat, your body knows it's not starving. For every pound of excess fat, it has 3500 calories to spare. And it's HAPPY to give these up, though it may occasionally become stubborn and "readjust" during a plateau. I know it's really frustrating at the beginning--but most of us don't lose a ton right out of the gate.
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I am in bandster hell and I am employing all my dieting experience in order to stay the course. It's rough. As far as the starvation thing, I agree - we have enough energy stores to keep our bodies going - but I also agree that everyone has an optimum place to be losing weight. My doc say stay at 1000 calories and I journal like crazy because I need to learn what 1000 calories feels like (if this makes sense). When we panic about lack of weight loss, I think we need to stay the course and tell our bodies, NO WAY, things aren't changing and I am serious this time. Burn the fat, stop waiting for more food :thumbup:
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I had horrible pain too for at least two weeks hang in there it gets better I would just sit there in tears praying for God to help me as I hit the lortab bottle like it was Jack Daniels. As far as stamina your body is using a lot of energy to heal on very little calories I'm nearly 4 weeks out and I still get exhausted. Bet you can't wait for the insomnia to start! Cuz I can't sleep for shit!
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How much weight lost, on average, per week?
KayBee1972 replied to KayBee1972's topic in Gastric Sleeve Surgery Forums
I know this is a marathon. An 18 month long marathon, but I want it to go faster! I just have a first goal of getting under 300lbs, something I was hoping for by June at the latest, but I don't think I can drop 39lbs in 8 weeks. Maybe? More vigorous exercise? I'm actually afraid if I do an uptick in exercise to burn more calories without increasing any food I might stall again. As for hunger returning, it's here and at mealtimes I'm legit stomach hungry. So I feel cheated on the not being hungry for 6+ months promise. -
So, since I started the pre-op program (3 months in my case), I have been trying to really limit myself on what I am eating, taking the nutritionist's advice on what to eat. Has anyone tried really limiting your caloric intake similar to what you would be limited to following surgery? I understand that you would really struggle with an all liquid diet or a diet of only 400 or so calories without the help of the surgery, but I am looking to see if anyone tried, successfully to approach it in this manner? I think it would be a great way to ease into the new diet following and not be such a shock to your system or daily routine disruption. I have been trying to stick with this philosophy and fortunately never had an eating disorder like binging or depressed eating. I am simply a case of being able to eat too much without feeling full, and eating all the wrong foods..... Initially in the beginning of this "experiment" the first week or two was tough becasue I had to fight all the cravings for sweets and carb heavy foods but now, 4 weeks or so from starting, it is MUCH easier. My cravings are gone, for the most part. The other day, I did have a craving for a PB and marshmallow fluff sandwich (sounds strange but tastes soooo good) so i made one....only to take a small bit and had it off to my wife who can afford to eat it! let me tell you how hard it was to have it in my hand and not eat it! But, I took a small bit of it and it completely satisified the craving and I no longer wanted it. At this point, I eat 1 Protein bar for Breakfast, a handfull of raw almonds for a mid morning snack, a cup of chili for lunch, another handful of almonds for an afternoon snack, and then a zero fat, high protein yogurt for dinner. I fill the rest of the time with about 80-100 oz of Water and that's it.... Anyway, let me know your experience with the calorie limited, high protein, low carb attempt prior to surgery if you have been able to follow through with it and if it helped following surgery.
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I thought it might be fun to share some food finds with each other. I'm not really talking about recipes, just things we find at the market that are really tasty, high in Protein and ready to serve or easy to cook. It might be a good idea to name the store or website etc that you found it on. For instance, I found at Trader Joe's Turkey meatballs Serving size is two meatballs 100 calories 4g of fat 5g of carbs 1g of sugar carbs 2g of Fiber carbs 12g of protein They come fully cooked in a 1 pound frozen bag and have no artificial color or flavor and no preservatives. And they're really delicious! I had trouble eating two but they are a great alternative to tuna which is getting a little boring to me.
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I needed every minute of the 6 month diet to do the work of understanding my eating habits and what I was in for....and I still could have used more time to prepare. I understand being excited and impatient to move forward...but the six month diet is important. Without learning to control your eating habits, you're going to be in trouble. This surgery is a tool, and it's a tool that fails...a lot...when people are not prepared for the lifetime changes they need to make. And I don't mean just adjusting to your new anatomy...that's relatively easy. What I mean is...the fact that you will STILL have to count calories, record everything you eat, fight temptation and cravings, and especially... find other outlets for emotional eating, identify your triggers, cope with the things that drove you to eat. Most of the people who make noise on the boards fall into two catagories. The people who have experienced some degree of success working very very hard. And the people who have experienced some degree of success by the good fortune of an excellent physiological reaction to the surgery regardless of their habits (luck). Who we DON'T tend to hear from, or see posts from....are the majority of people who have these surgeries.... who never lose more than 50% of their excess weight. When people get unhappy or feel unsuccessful...they don't post about it. Half of people who have this surgery will fall in this category. You can eat around an altered stomach and gain it all back. It's not even hard to do. The surgery changes one anatomical element to give you an advantage....not a fix. Your head is the place that needs the real fix. Six months...is a great investment in working to fix your head before you have to deal with your new digestive system. Are bariatric surgeries a terrific tool? Yes. The new anatomy helps a lot. Another terrific tool...one that is arguably just as helpful and arguably more important to your longterm success......a bariatric therapist. Make sure you have access to one. Best wishes to all!
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EDIT - The subject should read 12 g Protein NOT 20 g protein...so so very sorry!!! I had to share my new discovery... Kroger Carbmaster yogurt, full 8 oz cup.... 80 calories, 4 carbs & 1 Fiber (so 3 NET CARBS!!) and 12 grams of protein...and it only cost 40 CENTS. And it's NOT CHALKY or gritty like Greek Yogurt can be, smooth and creamy and less calories and carbs than greek yogurt. It's delicious, I'm eating the cherry flavor right now. :ohmy: It's Kroger brand and I got it at Smith's but Fred Meyer carries Kroger brand too. I love yogurt for Breakfast and now I can have my yogurt and eat it too
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I was allowed Slim Fast Lo Carb and have recently found a canned drink called "Zoic" which has 80 less calories, less fat, less carbs, and more Protein than Slim Fast. I was also permitted anything sugar free, including fudgsicles--but each surgeon is different. Try this website to order what you decide to use (make sure to look for "free shipping"): Amazon.com: Online Shopping for Electronics, Apparel, Computers, books, DVDs & more Best of luck to you!
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Did you receive any calorie guidelines?
davsil replied to should_be_working's topic in LAP-BAND Surgery Forums
I think a lot of this depends on your body and physique. I'm a 6'1" male with a large frame. My Dr. wants me to have between 800 & 1200 calories a day. I would imagine that smaller people might have different daily goals. I've just started mushies and yesterday was the first time I went over 800 calories. It was hard to find calories on liquids. I think tracking calories & protien is essential. The band is a tool. If you don't use it properly it won't work for you. I'm using an iPhone app called "Lose It!" and that is helping keep me on the straight & narrow. -
Did you receive any calorie guidelines?
sandiegokate replied to should_be_working's topic in LAP-BAND Surgery Forums
OK, found the documentation at work and the following comment: "Your daily calorie level will slowly start increasing from 700-900 calories immediately after surgery to about 1000-1200 calories in 3-6 months after surgery" That makes sense.... Hope it helps! I think eating the right things until you are full is key... -
I think I would be able to figure it out if I got to the point of losing too much weight. I know EXACTLY how to gain weight when I need to gain weight so for me, that is not anything I would worry about. a tweek of calorie intake should be fairly easy to do with your nutritionist help. Or in my case, a cheesesteak would do the trick....kidding of course.
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One pound is 3500 calories. You're doing just fine. This is a marathon, not a sprint.
