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I understand your frustration. When I was about one week post op, I hit my first stall. ONE WEEK! I only had water, some broth and that’s it. So why the heck wasn’t I losing weight?? To make matters worse, my hubby, who ate take out twice that week, lost three pounds. WHAT!? I was totally insulted… and I started to think it was my body again. Always trying to keep me fat. Years of struggle and here I am eating 400 cals a day and not losing anything?? One week later, a small movement. But every time I changed food stages, another stall. That was four stalls in six weeks. Very frustrating. I knew my BMR was 1400, so staying around 600-800 calories with high protein and low carb would HAVE to work. It’s not the program as much as it is the science. a couple things I’ve noticed… 1. If I’m sick or have an allergy episode, I will stall or even gain 2. if I drink Gatorade or artificial sweeteners of any kind, I will stall 3. if I don’t have regular daily bowel movements, I will stall. This one is so hard to deal with. 4. If I don’t get enough sleep, I will stall. 5. When I started eating higher protein than recommended (90 recommended, I have 110), I will lose. Even if the carbs go up slightly. 6. If I eat too many processed foods in a day, like protein bars, drinks or snacks, I will stall. 7. If I don’t get enough pure water, I will stall. You might have some sensitivities like these or others…. Really examen what you’re taking in, not just the calories and fat. It’s a puzzle you gotta figure out for yourself. It’s hard work. But I believe you can do it. Just vent and get back in there! 😃
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Stop. You're making yourself crazy. Get off the scale. You can't eat 800 calories a day and not lose weight, eventually. It'll happen. Your body is still healing from a very traumatic surgery. You're going to have swelling and water retention for months. This is a normal and expected part of the process. If you're doing what you're supposed to be doing, then you have nothing to worry about. You'll get there. It takes time for our metabolism to get the message. Depriving your healing tissues of the protein they need in order to heal, is not something that I would suggest. You could cause yourself more harm than good.
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Hey Fedup, How'd you go when reviewing your levels/have you been tested again? I too just recieved results and my Urea is high, my egfr is lower than pre-op now too but not less that 60. Creatinine was normal but higher than pre-op and on high side of normal. TProtein and Albulmin are just on the lower side of normal. GP said it may be dehydration as I also (since blood test) have had diarrhoea BUT maybe the diarrhoea is a result rather than the cause considering the order of them occurring? I've had a sore back today now too. I am at weightloss goal and have 60-80g protein daily as recommended but looking up on how to resolve the kidney function, the readings recommend limiting protein intake. Do I just increase water intake or should I limit my proteins?
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Length of liquid diet Post-op
Changing Chris replied to Bandedbut's topic in Post-op Diets and Questions
I'm having a hard time too! My Sleeve surgery was on 04/18 so I just started week 3. According to my surgeons plan, I'm still on a full liquid diet. Next week, week 4, I can throw in scrambled eggs, low or non fat cottage cheese, 2% string cheese, low fat cheese slices, and add fruit to blended protein shakes. On week 5 I can add soft cooked vegetables, canned chicken or tuna - fork smashed, refried beans, bananas, and canned fruit - fork smashed. Week 6 I move to solid food as tolerated. Last week at my 1 week follow up I told my Dr that I was very surprised at how hungry I am all the time and that I'm able to get all the protein and liquids down with no problems. I think he kind of thought I was under the impression that I got a bad sleeve. Mostly because he said: "I don't want you to think you didn't get a good sleeve..." hahaha! I'm just trying not to compare myself to others. It's hard. I keep reading about how everyone is not hungry anymore and I get a bit jealous. Hahahaha! I'll survive.... but I can't wait for some scrambled eggs! -
Length of liquid diet Post-op
pintsizedmallrat replied to Bandedbut's topic in Post-op Diets and Questions
I was on some form of a restricted diet for the first 3 months: clear liquids for a week, full liquids for 3 weeks, purees for 3 weeks and I think 6 weeks on soft foods. By the time I got to the point my diet was no longer restricted I was CRAVING raw vegetables something awful, and that's not really something that has let up (to a point where my dietitian had to gently chastise me for eating so much salad because it wasn't leaving enough room for protein!) I'm not going to suggest you go on your own and contradict your team's recommendations, but you may consider talking to them if you are tolerating things well if they would be open to you potentially accelerating your schedule. If you're having trouble, I would stick with the schedule. -
Hi, I had a sleeve on 4/25. Still on protein shake and clear liquid diet. I haven’t lost any weight in the last 3 days. Doing everything right, walking 30 min, having my protein shakes. Still working on getting my liquids to at least 64 oz. Having around 45-50 oz a day. Scale is not moving! Any suggestions?
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I am so fed up. I am 10 weeks post op. I didn’t lose any weight in the first 3 weeks. Very odd as it was liquid only. Between weeks 4-7 I lost just over a stone. Since week 7, and I am now nearly 11 weeks post op, I haven’t even lost 1lb. I am not drinking calories, I am sticking to the NHS guidelines and my dietician. No slider foods. High protein, low fat and hitting my fluid goals each day. Literally feel like my last draw is gone. I keep reading to trust to the process and I’ve carried on but weeks of no weightloss has no meant that I have started a water only diet, fasting as it seems my body will not lose weight if I put any food in my body. I have never felt so depressed or let down. I could understand if I was eating he wrong things, or eating too much, too little. Wondering if it’s hormonal and that’s the reason I’ve struggled for years with weightloss and gaining Any help would be greatly appreciated.
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Thank you for the insight! Hero brand specifically caters to it being a protein/fiber ‘bread’ with no carbs - so in theory it would contain more vital nutrients (for a wls patient) in one tortilla wrap than in an entire head of cauliflower and doesn’t contain sugar like cauliflower. I think the intrigue of that fact actually lures me! I know it’s processed so that’s where I get nervous. To your point, I have noticed the ‘heaviness’ of foods affects me. Things that are more dense seem to make me nauseated and things that are light like sautéed veggies and lean proteins sit really well with me! I knew going into this I’d have to give up a lot and so far the only thing I miss is bread/tortillas/pastas. But I’d rather have health than have those things. So seeing a ‘bread’ with protein and no carbs makes me very excited. One day I’ll be able to try it, but at only three weeks in, still letting my little tummy heal. PS. Saw your birthday is July 21 - I’m July 20!!!!
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Hero Bread Post Bypass
Arabesque replied to BariAsh's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
Check with your dietician & medical team. Plans differ & it’s always best to follow your plan. If your plan says no bread it means no bread & that includes low carb, low calorie or high protein versions. The issue with bread, bread alternatives, rice & pasta is that they swell in your tummy & take up valuable room which should be filled by the protein you need to eat. Remember all because you may not be allowed now while you are losing doesn’t mean you won’t in the future. Of course some are allowed to eat bread, etc. but what sort, how much & when you can is where differences occur. If you are allowed remember eat your protein first, then any vegetables you are able & very last any carbs you are allowed & only if you still need to eat. (Often I could only eat my protein & nothing else.) And of course the other consideration is if you can physically eat them. I’m almost 4 years out & I still can’t eat breads, pasta, rice. They just sit too heavily in my tummy & limit the amount of more nutritionally food I need to eat. Lots of alternatives like cauliflower rice, cauliflower crust for pizza, zucchini noodles, etc. available. PS - The type of surgery doesn’t really influence your post eating surgical plan. -
Any April Surgery Dates?
Charise018 replied to rokse23's topic in PRE-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
Same! First 1-2 days was rough. 3rd day I felt a bit better. The gas pain was terrible though. But I am struggling to get all my protein intake in. How's that going for you? -
I understand the feeling. I’m drinking the protein and water. And it’s still really loud, but I’m not hungry. It’s a little embarrassing. Need to find out how to stop it.
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I love the Grenad oreo protein bar. Tastes so sweet and is good protein source too. I bring a bag of Quest nacho or ranch chip too
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Yes, yes, yes to being worth it!!! Plastics changed my life! Best thing I did for myself, besides the WLS!!! As for price? Yes, $30K for tummy and breasts is way too much in my opinion! I would recommend joining the Facebook Groups, there's a bunch of them, check out No BS Tummy tucks and Breast Mob. Lots of before and after photos, surgeon info, prices etc. If you are willing to travel, Miami is the place to go for a MMO! I would go private practice though, not one of the clinics, as the clinics tend to overbook, and then change your date at the last minute, which is a problem when you are traveling for surgery. I was initially scheduled at a clinic in Miami (for $11,500), but my preferred surgeon left the clinic, and I didn't want want to go with a different surgeon at that particular clinic. So I ended up switching to a private practice surgeon on the other coast (Ft Myers), and ended up paying $14,000. To me, it was worth the extra $$ for the private practice experience, etc. There are lots of private practice options right in Miami though. You can bring a companion with you, and stay in a hotel, or if you want to travel solo, there are recovery houses available that provide after care until you are ready to fly back home. Or of course, just stay local, but shop around a little bit more until you find the right fit and right price! Best of luck in whatever you decide!!
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Hey y'all! Congrats to all the new May surgeries! @ajrp001 we're surgery buddies! 😀 Haven't had much of a chance to hop on here the past few weeks. Between attending support groups, buying all the things I needed for before and after surgery, then getting things in order at home and church before my surgery took up more time than I expected. Surgery is now only 3 days away! I can't believe it! The anxiety is starting to really go up now! I finished my 12 day pre-op high protein/low carb diet yesterday and today I start my 3 day clear liquid diet. The pre op wasn't as easy as I thought it would be because I eat mostly vegetarian/no dairy due to allergies and trying to maintain the high protein while keeping carbs low was tougher than I thought. Now to survive 3 days of clear liquids only! I know it will be worth it in the end!
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I need more protein shakes and waters
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I do really well until nightfall and then struggle
pintsizedmallrat replied to Yahoo's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
Budget for it. If you know you're likely to have a couple snacks after dinner, make room for it earlier in the day with your calories/protein. Learn what your behaviors are and try to "outsmart" yourself. Another thing that has helped me tremendously is to make my healthy snacks more convenient for myself than the unhealthy ones. These suggestions are obviously with the caveat that I don't know what stage of eating you're in, but this has worked for me. Cut up some veggies, make yourself some "snack boxes" for in the evening that are grab-and-go (maybe a Babybel Lite cheese and a handful of berries? Fresh mozzarella and tomato skewers? Olives and some sliced ham or turkey?). If you like sweet stuff, I make "yogurt sundaes" sometimes which is basically what it sounds like: greek yogurt (I like Dannon Light and Fit), with a handful of berries and a small amount of sugar-free chocolate chips or cocoa nibs, maybe some nuts? (Whatever fits with your diet that you like). It makes it feel more fun to call it a sundae. -
I do really well until nightfall and then struggle
Arabesque replied to Yahoo's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
Night time cravings are a challenge for many so you’re not alone in this. I can be pretty determined (pig headed some might say) so I manage my cravings differently. I don’t let them rule me. I use logic to manage them & have some habits I follow. I don’t eat after 8pm. I have my evening meal & then a protein bar about an hour later to boost my daily protein intake. If I feel hungry after that I know it’s not real hunger because I’ve eaten recently & have eaten well all day. I remind myself, I don’t need to eat or need those extra calories & it’s not real hunger. That’s just what I do. Of course we all weaken at times for many reasons. If I weaken I’ll have a little fruit or a few nuts. The important point @summerseeker raised was about not exceeding your daily calories if you do snack. I’m almost 4 years out & I do snack like the protein bar. They’re scheduled, add to my needed daily calories, protein, etc. intake but if I’m not hungry I won’t have them. It isn’t easy to do all this in the beginning when you’re still learning about so many things & still working out what works for you like how you’re going to mange your food choices, eating habits, etc. now & in the future. Try some distraction techniques & drinking (like a warm drink) in the meantime. They can be helpful when head hunger hits. If you are allowed a snack during the day, maybe save it to have at night. Good luck however you chose to manage those night time cravings. -
Very uncomfortable post op - question
Arabesque replied to longhaul68's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
A couple of weeks without your vitamins shouldn’t cause any problems. I mean some don’t start taking them for a month. It might only be an issue if your levels were already low. Like you won’t become anaemic unless your iron stores are low as well as your daily intake. The hair loss occurs because of stress (surgery, changed diet, etc.), hormonal fluctuations, anaesthetic & prolonged low protein intake (if you’re meeting your goal or getting closer to it in those first few weeks you’ll be okay). They cause your usual hair loss cycle to accelerate. Vitamins won’t stop the hair loss as that is dead hair you would have lost anyway. Vitamins may only benefit your new hair growth which isn’t affected by the surgery, etc. -
JUNE SURGERY BUDDIES
jul3074@gmail.com replied to Mira88's topic in PRE-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
My surgery is set for June 26th. I am starting to get all the necessary supplies and protein drinks very nervous. But ready to make a fresh healthy start. -
Exercise after surgery
qtdoll replied to eliojourney's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
I got my surgery Sept 2022 & started working out 3 months later but I was up on my fluids & protein intake. But you should definitely prioritize working on your protein & water intake. It will help the pounds shed off just as much as working out would & you wouldn't feel as weak. -
I do really well until nightfall and then struggle
summerseeker replied to Yahoo's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
I don't know how far along you are. If you are really finding it hard to be without food in the evening then find things that fit your calorie limit. I always have a snack in the early evening. I am helped by having GERD because I can not eat for 2 hours before bed. It depends on my calorie intake for the day - as to what I eat. Sometimes its the remnants of my last meal that I could not manage earlier. If I am low on calories, I will have some blue cheese and fruit. If I am low on protein, then its a protein yogurt or pudding. There are always sugar free ice lollies in the freezer and small single serve packets of popcorn in the cupboard and melon in my fridge. -
1 year after Sleeve surgery...
MandoGetsSleeved replied to liveaboard15's topic in Gastric Sleeve Surgery Forums
Congrats! You've done fantastic!! I'm almost 3 years out and can relate to much of what you've said with regards to hunger coming back and being able to eat quite a bit more. Just curious though, do you find that it "comes and goes"? There are some days I feel huge restriction - like I can only eat a few bites of something, and then others I am hungry all day. Doesn't seem to matter what type of food it is (protein, salad, or slider foods). Also, much like you, I've had no issues with any different foods (sometimes I wish I did!). -
How did the transition to maintenance look for you?
maintenanceman replied to Lisa XO's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
My weight loss progressively slowed down each month post-op. Over time, I needed more calories to be satiated. Finally, at 9 months post-op, the weight loss stopped right at my Ideal Body Weight. I'm currently 14 mo post-op, and I'm still experimenting with how much and what to eat to maintain. I currently eat about 1800-2000 calories a day. I don't follow a specific diet now, but I try to stay focused on protein, eating clean, limited (and healthy) snacking. My biggest challenge is grazing. My restriction makes it hard to eat actual meals, so I find myself eating "pieces" of food throughout the day... some cheese here, an apple there, a piece of ham, some greek yogurt, a protein bar, etc. It's working ok for now, but it's something I'm monitoring. Initially, I was tracking everything I ate, but I don't do that now. I keep a running tab in my head, and I'm trying to get to the point that I can regulate intuitively. I weigh myself every morning. I've regained about a pound from my lowest weight. -
How did the transition to maintenance look for you?
Arabesque replied to Lisa XO's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
My weight just slowed. I reached my goal & thought yay but I kept losing. So I slowly increased my calories as I was able hoping to slow it down. Some of the increased calories came as I was physically able to eat more - eventually more like a regular portion size. I also added snacks. I was still seeing my dietician so I worked through suggestions with her. I added two more serves of carbs (whole/multi grains), another serve of fruit, nuts, hummus, peanut paste, chia pudding, protein bar, etc. My dietician also suggested adding milk powder to my milk to enrich it (for my rolled oats & chia pudding but I found it too sweet). When I reached goal I was eating about 900 calories. When I finally stopped losing (about 11 months later & a further 11 odd kilos down) I was up to 1300. Now I eat about 1500 to maintain at about a kilo or so heavier weight. And yes I still snack a few times a day. -
I may need to change my name and profile pictures. I assumed I would be struggling to drink water and protein shakes and eating tiny food portions but that's not the case. So far, no nausea. No feeling of food restriction. I guess I should be happy that I can eat comfortably with no appetite and so I'm banking on the surgery itself to do it's part changing my setpoint, metabolism, insulin resistance etc. In 10 days I will move into regular food phase. Maybe then the restriction may kick in.
