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Determining Goal Weight
Guest replied to suzannethemom's topic in PRE-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
By approximation in theory but in practice I don't need to. There is no weight I could be, where eating 1000 Calories per day wouldn't cause weight loss. The other problem with weighing oneself is seen on this forum which is replete with hand wringing regarding the "three week stall" and many other issues which aren't issues at all with regard to fat loss. They are scale related aberrations. -
Lack of calories, lack of sugar, those were my triggers, but your body gets used to it and the headaches go away.
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It was all I could do to get enough fluids in 3 days post op to stop getting dehydrated, so sounds like you're healing really well! My surgeon has never given me any limit to calories (nobody has ever mentioned a calorie goal to me for any stage actually!) The first few wees can be really hard - I think you're doing brilliantly.
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Initial weight vs current weight
Spinoza replied to simplysmile's topic in Gastric Sleeve Surgery Forums
Started pre-op diet at 276lbs. Surgery was cancelled for another 2 months but I kept calorie counting that whole time so in total I lost 25lbs pre-op in the end. Surgery weight 251 Date of sleeve 17 November 2021 Current weight 220 So that's 31lbs off in 11.5 weeks since surgery. 8lbs in the week of surgery then a long post-op stall that lasted over 3 weeks. I have really found a groove with my eating and am losing a steady 2lbs a week at the minute. I do drink some alcohol every weekend which I know is completely empty calories, but it's something I have chosen to do and factor in. If I stall again or once my rate of loss slows I'll probably stop it again! Hope that helps. I loved reading other people's stats pre-op and I still do really. 😍 Keep asking questions - it's a big decision, a lifelong commitment to being different, and there is such a lot of experience in this group you're absolutely right to use it. -
Exercise post-op
AnotherGuy replied to PCOS_Mama94's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
I am almost 8 weeks post surgery. Like you, I incorporate strength training and cardio every week. At the moment, I do cardio five days per week and I do strength training three days per week. One day per week, Tuesdays, I have a complete day of rest. Did I mention I love Tuesdays? It is my opinion that it is very difficult to build muscle while losing weight. To build muscle, your body needs the raw materials (food) for which to build muscle. While losing weight, your body has a calorie deficit...or in other words, a lack of food. Therefore, it is very difficult to build muscle while losing weight. Perhaps a good goal might be to maintain as much of the muscle you currently possess through strength training. As you lose weight, you will be losing fat and keeping lean muscle. And muscle burns way more calories than fat. Odd fact of the day: According to Harvard Health, adults lose 3% to 5% of their muscle mass each decade after the age of 30. (This is the reason we get fatter as we get older even though we eat the same amount.) 🤔 -
Don't count calories at this point. Just focus on getting in the liquid and eating/drinking when you're hungry. Give your body time to adjust and heal and don't be stingy with calories. My doctor doesn't use calories as a factor at all, just says to eat protein first, veggies second, grains third until you're full.
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Determining Goal Weight
Guest replied to suzannethemom's topic in PRE-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
So, BMR is basal metabolic rate which is how many calories you're likely to burn while doing nothing. It's quite accurate but not completely. But there isn't a human on earth who consumed 600 calories that day a didn't lose fat at the end of it. It's simply impossible. Weighing yourself genuinely isn't necessary. And as for the latter post: I'm not in the US, I neither have nor need insurance, and in any case, all the follow ups are included in the original package price. I just don't see why a "dietician" would be weighing me. If I choose to weigh myself, fine. I would let someone else do it just to monitor me. My progress is mine. -
Off track and in need some tough love and food/snack ideas!
ajb1029 replied to ajb1029's topic in Gastric Sleeve Surgery Forums
Thank you everyone again for all the amazing feedback!! I have gone back to tracking all my food and found that that does help deter me from making bad decisions(not all the time but there is a definite downturn in bad decisions) when I have to input the calories/carbs that make me cringe on 1 piece of food/snack etc. I also realized the ridiculous amount of financial and emotional stress my dog is putting me through these last couple of months and for the next 3 or 4 has also affected me more than I realized(I stress eat and not good things). I have my annual with my PCP next week and am looking forward to a candid conversation about anxiety and ADD symptom management with hopes that getting my mental health back on track it will also help my mindset with the weight loss. I found an excess weight calcluator and I actually have lost 70% of my excess weight from my highest of 347lbs! So I am doing better than I thought. I am shooting for my surgeon's goal of 193 in June for my 18 month post op visit....one day and choice at a time! -
First congrats on your surgery. You seem to be doing well so far. I was never given a calorie goal just fluid & protein but I checked out of my own curiosity. Those first couple of weeks I was eating a bare 200 calories which increased to about 300 on soft foods. But that was me. Many eat more. You’ll find there are a lot of different requirements around calories & we have different experiences about them too. If you feel you need more accountability or guidance ask your dietician &/or surgeon. You may not be able to meet any of their goals in those first weeks but as long as you’re making an effort & are close, especially to the protein & fluid goals, you’ll be ok. But as you’re only ‘eating’ 3 meals a day you should be close to your protein goal & doing fine. Just one thing to watch though, during the surgery a lot of nerves are cut which means messages aren’t getting through to your brain: hunger, full, etc. And fluids go through you quite quickly. It’s important to tread carefully & sip slowly. All because it seems like you can doesn’t mean you really can or should. All the best.
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you're not going to be eating enough in the early weeks to worry about calories. Your focus should just be on protein and fluids (esp fluids).
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Food Before and After Photos
ms.sss replied to GreenTealael's topic in General Weight Loss Surgery Discussions
He brought home Five Guys for dinner. I don’t normally eat burgers with buns This was probably my 2nd (maybe 3rd?) time eating a burger (well PART of a burger at least, lol) since surgery 3+ years ago. I had a Little Bacon Cheeseburger w/ ketchup, mustard, grilled onions, grilled mushrooms, jalepeños with a handful of fries. Ate all the fries and 1/4 of the burger. Estimated 304 calories + another 75 cals for the toppings i forgot to add to MFP before i took the pic below. Was good, but probably would’ve enjoyed a salad more. Or a cookie. 😂 -
After surgery the main focus is: Water, to not get dehydrated Protein, to avoid loss of muscle mass Limited Volume while the sleeve heals, to avoid stretching your stitch line, damaging it, and causing a leak. In my case, I was on 3 days of just water (no protein).. then 4 days of clear protein (no milky shakes).. and then milky protein shakes. Dr. said not to worry about calories, just water and protein goals. I was given a calory budget after 2 or 3 months..
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Neither the surgeon nor the nutritionist even mentioned calories in the beginning. Just amounts of food. Every teams plan is a little different in regard to the amounts you should be eating at each stage. It’s best to just stick to your plan.
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The big thing is getting your protein and liquids in. I would worry about those over calories. The standards I was given: - 60-80 grams protein - 64oz total liquids (incl protein shakes) - 400-600 calories
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Hi guys, how many calories were you consuming 3 days post op? I feel like I’m ingesting too much I had an Actimel 0% (27 cal) in the morning, 330ml protein shake (155 cal) for lunch which went down quick and a cup of soup (90 cal) in the afternoon which didn’t take me long to finish either. my surgeon never gave me a calorie amount. I’m currently planning on having another cup of soup (90 cal) is this too much for 3 days post op? Surgery was 02/02/2022
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I would track all food to see ways to reduce calories while hitting at least 60 grams of protein. There may be lower calorie substitutions you can make or activities you can do to get the extra pounds off.
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Crying over granola
catwoman7 replied to suzannethemom's topic in PRE-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
you said it! Prior to surgery, I would have eaten a bowlful of it. Now I have to limit it to a couple of tablespoons on top of Greek yogurt. This far out, eating it doesn't bother my stomach - but the calories - YIKES! -
If you're eating 900 calories per day, you're losing fat every day. On the other side of the coin, if you lost 30lb the first month, half of that or more, wasn't fat at all. Processes like dehydration and rehydration and inflammation will have huge impacts on "weight loss" but not on fat loss. The fact is, if your body needs 2500 calories in a day to function and you feed it 1000 calories, it will take 1500 calories from fat (or a little of that from protein stores but mostly from fat). As for "needing calories" - not really.
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Granola is one of those things that sounds healthy - check out the calories for a bowl. Heart attack.
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Food Before and After Photos
Guest replied to GreenTealael's topic in General Weight Loss Surgery Discussions
Not sure if this is the right place but I just discovered this and it's pretty good and starts your day off with 147 calories and 25g of protein. -
Crying over granola
elleemann replied to suzannethemom's topic in PRE-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
I also love Greek yogurt and granola. Where I would have eaten it every day before surgery, I now eat it just occasionally. I eat Nature's Path Love Crunch because the sugar, fat and calories are lower than the type I used to eat. I also switched to high protein/zero sugar Greek yogurt. I eat pretty much everything I used to eat, but in healthier versions and a lot smaller portions. Find what works for you to avoid feeling deprived and sad that you need to "give up" certain foods. Good luck!! -
Food Before and After Photos
Arabesque replied to GreenTealael's topic in General Weight Loss Surgery Discussions
Thank you everyone. I’ve known the possibility of regain was there. It was one of the reasons I was ok with exceeding my weight loss goal - room to move. The challenging aspects for me is in understanding why. I can accept the return of hunger but the fact I haven’t changed my diet or calorie intake (except for those two Christmas weeks) & if anything I’m a little more active (not building muscle so I can’t blame that 😉) messes with my head. And I know it’s only a very small amount so far but … more reflection & introspection needed I think. Anyway, I love a lamb cutlet as you know so last night I baked some with a pistachio dukkha crust. Those brown crunchy bits were super yummy. Ate two last night, two tonight & will freeze the last two. I love this baking tray. It was originally my mum’s biscuit tray. She gave it to me 35 odd years ago. I use it for everything including roasts, baked vegetables, as a drip tray, etc. If it goes into the oven I use the tray - hence the darker, burnt baked in flavour you can see in the corners 😁. Do you have a favourite cooking pot or pan? PS - looking gorgeous as usual @Sophie7713. -
Crying over granola
Arabesque replied to suzannethemom's topic in PRE-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
It’s the beginning of examining what we eat & looking for healthier, more nutrient dense food. But yes, it can be an emotional roller coaster as you realise certain foods you enjoyed (offered comfort?) may be off the menu for a while, and your stress levels are already up as you near your surgery date. But there are a lot of things you can eat at 1300 calories. It’s about what I eat to maintain (3 meals & 3 snacks). Look for foods with similar flavours, textures & ingredients. Love your granola, try rolled oats (not instant) with some seeds, nuts & blueberries. (Granola is often high in sugar & fat too so another reason it would be off your plan.) I’ve snacked on things like cheese, high protein yoghurt (look for low added sugar or naturally sweetened with fruit), multi grain crackers, hummus, vegetable crudités, fruit, etc. It’s often easier if you make your own favourite treats as you choose the ingredients & how it’s prepped/cooked. Like you can make a low fat healthier guacamole with avocado, herbs & spices to taste, diced tomato, celery, a little grated red onion & lemon/lime juice. Lots of recipes about for healthier options. Look for alternatives like cauliflower rice & zucchini noodles instead of highly processed rice & pasta. One of the challenging things is reducing your sugar, salt & caffeine intake. Their addictive nature makes withdrawal hard. It will be all worth it. All the best. -
One thing I try to be really conscious of is avoiding "dieting". I believe fad diets, eating too little, etc... can destroy your metabolism and I think that was part of my problem pre-surgery. Years of yo-yo diets meant my metabolism (aka Calories Out) was destroyed. I am really trying to not do that this time around. I did have a little weight gain over the holidays and am trying to eat around 1700 a day with working out and the little I gained is slowly coming off in what I hope is a healthy way.
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Yesterday I met with the dietitian. I don’t have a surgery date yet, but she is having me start a 1,300 calorie diet with 45% carbs, 30% protein and 25% fat. No refined carbs. I was writing down healthy snack ideas like Greek yogurt with granola (my favorite). Then I saw that granola is not allowed because it is a refined carb. I started crying! I think I was crying more about the idea of a diet than the actual granola. It’s been an emotional week for me as I launch forward on my WLS journey. All my tests are done. Two appointments left (follow up with psychologist and dietician). It finally feels like this is really happening.