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Only if my sugar gets low. My sugar levels now if I am not careful go to the 60s sometimes. But weight is still up and down and I am just through. So I consider it a failure. I have only lost 60 odd pounds
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First off, kudos to you for wanting to regain your strength and build muscle post-surgery. It's important to start slow and progressively work your way up. Since you're 7 months post-op, you've likely received guidance from your healthcare provider, but here's a general idea: Start with low weights or resistance bands to ease into it. Focus on full-body workouts to maintain balance. Try 3 sets of 10-15 reps for each exercise, gradually increasing weights and reps as you get stronger.
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While I agree that selecting the right tool is important (right for your needs, health & medical considerations, lifestyle etc.) getting your head right is equally as if not a more important part. Not everyone loses their appetite after surgery & if you do it’s temporary. We all say, the surgery changes your body but it doesn’t change your thinking. It doesn’t stop your cravings, emotions, habits. They’ll still be there when your appetite returns. You have to do the head work as well. It is possible to eat around your tool, to make poor food choices & then not lose or regain your weight. Changing your relationship with food, understanding why you eat (habit, emotional support, craving, boredom, etc.) are essential. It’s like getting a gym membership or buying a treadmill, how successful you are depends upon you changing your behaviours & actually using the treadmill or going to the gym. Many people find working with a therapist extremely helpful in understanding & developing strategies to manage what motivates or drives our eating & the food choices we make. Unfortunately, life does tend to throw crap at us at times, & knowing how to manage the emotional turmoils that usually come with it & not fall back on old eating behaviours will help you continue your weight loss & maintain in the future. As @NickelChip said, Dr Weiner & Dr Pitcher have amazing resources but I do encourage you to consider seeking counselling. Your doctor, surgeon & team should be able to recommend someone with experience in disordered eating & bariatric patients. (Many insurances require at least one visit as part of your approval anyway.) All the best.
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So, I'm not an expert, but I've been doing a lot of reading and watching videos from reliable medical professionals (like the one I shared above, and the videos from Dr. Matthew Weiner in Tucson). I've also had friends and family members with both bands and sleeve surgery, and seen all of the ones with bands eventually fail, while the sleeves have had at least moderate success. Full disclosure: I'm scheduled for a bypass in December. The most important thing about all of this is it's not your fault. It's not about getting your head right, it's about getting the right tools. And the band is just not a good longterm tool for almost everyone. The biggest difference between the band and the sleeve or bypass is that while the band relies on restricting your eating, the sleeve and bypass both change your metabolism. It's not just about capacity, it's about a fundamental shift in how your hormones communicate with your body. Do you still have to have good nutrition, and be mindful, and work on your life issues that influence how you eat, and all that good stuff? Definitely. But choosing a metabolic surgery (sleeve or bypass) totally shifts the playing field in a way the band didn't. I think it was one of the videos from Dr. Weiner where he said it was like getting a second chance to draw a new card from the genetic lottery. Good luck with your meeting with your doctor, and just remember, this isn't your fault. It's not because you're not strong enough, or good enough, or any of that nonsense people like to say. It's because you got dealt a crap hand in the gene department that makes it really hard for you to manage your weight, way harder than for a lot of people, and it's okay to use every tool available to make it easier.
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Band in 8/2008,386lbs, removed 2012(blown out)looked like an hourglass he said. Re-banded 2014, 6'1 366lbs. In 2008 with original band lost 100lbs first 18 months, blow out band in 2012 and removed. Reinstalled 2014 and lost 0 lbs, gaining weight. 14cc band and the doctor will not fill past 6.5. This band is not working, why did it work the first time for 18 months and then stop? Is it really all mental like I've been told? I had a major life event(my son's illness) that triggered overeating in 2012. Why can't I control this, get my mind right? Is Sleeve that much better at appetite control? I am scared of failure again! Tell me the pros and cons of the Sleeve, I hear they no longer even do the band. Right now I'm 58 6'1 male 380lbs. Have an appointment with the doctor next month.
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Let's Collect Some Data!
Amerime replied to ms.sss's topic in General Weight Loss Surgery Discussions
Sleeve Basics: GENDER, AGE, HEIGHT -- Female, 49, 5’5” 2. Total Weight lost in the 6 months BEFORE surgery (if any) -- 37 lbs 3. Weight on DAY OF SURGERY. -- 230.4 lbs 4. Weight at 1 MONTH POST surgery -- 219 lbs 5. Weight at 3 MONTHs POST surgery -- 289 lbs 6. Weight at 6 MONTHs POST surgery -- TBD 7. Weight at 12 MONTHs POST surgery -- TBD -
Top weight 299 Signing consent form day 281 Day of Surgery 261
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July 2023 Surgery Buddies UPDATES!!!
Amerime replied to Inspectorjh84's topic in Gastric Sleeve Surgery Forums
You both are doing great!!! I was sleeved 7/6/23 as well- the recovery went well. I do not believe my sleeve was too restrictive as I can eat small meals without discomfort. I do limit my caloric intake to under 1000 calories per day (I track) and I do not eat simple carbs. I have been eating some fruits which I am cutting back on. I weighed in 3 days ago at 187 lbs, so I am down 43 lbs post surgery, 80 lbs since my first bariatric appointment. I have been in the middle of stall for the last 2 weeks. Hoping it breaks soon. The weight loss has definitely slowed, but based on reading others' experience, I am not going to worry at this point. I wanted to be at least 167 lbs by the 6 month mark, but I've lost very little in the last 4 weeks- don't think I'll make it. Anyway, the goal is what matters. Good luck to you all! -
Chronic fatigue syndrome and weight loss surgery
ChunkCat replied to Rach38's topic in General Weight Loss Surgery Discussions
I have chronic fatigue and fibro. I'm having surgery Nov. 1st. The surgeon said the surgery may help in terms of being less weight to carry around and less inflammation in the body, which may result in less pain, but it really depends on the person and the cause of their disease. I'm hopeful things will improve a little, even if it is just letting me move better on my good days, you know? If I can be more productive on my good days then I can accept my bad days on the couch with a little more grace. LOL -
November 2023 buddies
ChunkCat replied to brandycsiz's topic in PRE-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
Hi Sarah, welcome!! I know, my brother was like "You'll be on a restricted diet through Thanksgiving? Why would you do that to yourself??" 😂 So I know I won't end up gaining! Hahahaha! I agree about the charlie horses, definitely get an electrolyte powder!! I was miserable the first night after I started the diet until I remembered I had a box of them. Lifesavers man... I drink one a night and haven't had anymore leg cramps! Congratulations on getting married!! You sound like you've had a busy few months! I hope you've built in some time to rest after your surgery, based on past surgeries I know it takes more energy to heal than we anticipate! -
BIGGEST nsv of my life!!!!!
SleeveToBypass2023 replied to SleeveToBypass2023's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
Thank you It's amazing what weight loss, better health, and renewed belief in yourself can do!!! -
Putting on weight even though I'm burning more than I eat?
catwoman7 replied to MaameWata's topic in Gastric Sleeve Surgery Forums
it's hard to say how much you're actually burning that doesn't include sedentary/resting etc. I think Fitbits (and other trackers) give you a general idea, but they're not super accurate. And how many calories you burn in an hour depend on how much you weigh, your metabolic rate, what you're doing, and your intensity. I've been tracking my calories like a hawk for years, so I think the 300 kcal an hour I seem to be getting from fairly intense cardio is probably in the right ballpark. It takes about 1600 kcal a day for me to maintain my current weight, but if I'm exercising a lot during any given week (about an hour a day), I can eat up to 1900-ish without my weight starting to head up (of course, you have to take into account normal weight fluctuations, too - but at any rate, I do seem to be able to increase my calories by up to 300 or so if I'm doing a lot of cardio). also, the person who said that over the long run, strength training will increase your metabolism is correct. The more muscular you are, the more calories. you'll burn even at rest. So strength training by itself doesn't burn all that many calories, but over time, it'll boost your metabolic rate. -
Sleeved in March; Is My Progress Done?
catwoman7 replied to BrandiBird's topic in Gastric Sleeve Surgery Forums
SomeBigGuy is absolutely correct. I remember sitting in Weight Watchers meetings before I had surgery, rolling my eyes (at least to myself) at these barely overweight women moan and complain about how hard it was to lose 10 lbs. And here I was, 200+ lbs overweight. But now I totally get it!! The closer you are to normal weight, the harder it gets to lose even 10 lbs - when pre-surgery I probably could have dropped that in a week or two! But it all comes down to percentages - and how close your normal calorie intake is to your normal calorie expenditure (which at normal weight, is pretty much even). You still have a ways to go, but those percentages have changed - so you'll lose the weight as long as you stick to your plan, but it's going to take longer to lose the same number of pounds that you could have lost when you weighed 300+ lbs. But keep at it - it WILL come off!! -
Comparison food numbers 4 months out
Arabesque replied to pamelacoa@yahoo.com's topic in Post-op Diets and Questions
Stalls are common & a necessary part of your weight loss. It’s when your body stops & assess the changes you’ve made & resets things like digestive hormones, metabolism, etc. based on your changes & new needs. Think of it as your body taking a breath to understand the stress you’ve been putting it through. Once it understands what you now need, your weight loss will start again. Stick to your plan, don’t stress your body more. Your stall will break when your body is ready. They usually last between 1-3 weeks but it can be longer. Can be difficult to compare what others are doing or achieving at a certain point in time. I was barely eating 900 calories at 6 months. Barely touched a carb except what was in vegetables & fruit & barely any sugar (still average less than 10g added sugar a day often only 5g). Most are eating way more than that. With your calorie intake you will still lose weight but I agree, your dietician is your best help. -
Dizziness, Neck and Upper back discomfort
Arabesque replied to Omomifu's topic in Gastric Sleeve Surgery Forums
The dizziness is likely orthostatic hypotension or in simple terms drops in blood pressure with postural changes - getting up after sitting or lying down. You can get it reaching up too. It’s pretty common in the first weeks after surgery & I think aggravated by the low calorie intake but for most it’s temporary. (I had a tendency to it before surgery & now I have it everyday.) Keep your fluids up. Add a little more salt to your diet if possible. Get up slowly, in stages & wait before moving. When I do move I generally try to keep near a chair, table,wall, etc. so I can grab it & ground myself if my vision narrows. Even been known to grab a person too - LOL. Depending upon how much weight you’ve lost so far, your upper body pain could be from your body finding it’s new centre of gravity. Your body used to hold itself in a certain way to compensate for the weight you carried. Now it doesn’t have to & your muscles at relearning how to hold yourself when standing, walking, etc. And yes it’s pretty common & can be experienced at different time while you’re losing.- 1 reply
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Chronic fatigue syndrome and weight loss surgery
Rach38 posted a topic in General Weight Loss Surgery Discussions
I am wondering if anyone with a diagnosis of chronic fatigue syndrome has had bariatric surgery. I am curious as I am contemplating surgery and if it helped or made symptoms of chronic fatigue worse -
How easy was it to get approved by Medicaid in NYC?
Shanna NYC replied to Gothikarose's topic in General Weight Loss Surgery Discussions
I can't speak on this from personal experience as I went through my own insurance, but a friend of mine did hers several years back on Healthfirst Medicaid. She had to do 6 months of nutritionist meetings however she was already doing those prior to seeking out surgery. So between that and her other health issues (which is why they needed her to drop weight quicker), she was approved pretty quickly. She got the thumbs up that she was a good candidate in May and got her official approval in July and had surgery in September. I think it depends on how quickly you get the required appointments completed which aside from nutritionist meetings could be gastro, pulmonary, cardiologist and for sure psych, pcp and bloodwork.- 1 reply
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What was your “Moment” ?
AmberFL replied to GrannyMaggie's topic in General Weight Loss Surgery Discussions
My moment is when my knees and feet were hurting just getting out bed, and not having the energy to play with my children who are 6yrs old and 18m- even when they ask I gas out too quick. I want to be able to coach my kids sports; I was athletic played all through HS and in shape then after having kids just let myself go. I am embarrassed for my husband because he deserves a wife that loves herself enough to take care of herself. He has never been negative and was shocked that I wanted to go this route because he doesn't think that I need to, but he doesn't have weight issues. I want to get back in shape lose some weight and be there for my kids and husband! Plus it never hurts to look and feel good! -
Whole carbs or net carbs? How to break a stall?
Shanna NYC replied to Nyxienoodles's topic in Post-op Diets and Questions
Stalls are nearly a guarantee at some point. I wouldn't worry too much about it at this stage. Your body is just adjusting. I am currently 6 and a half months post op and had a few stalls last about a week or two and then a loss. I was the same weight for 2 weeks and then lost almost 5lbs, then stayed at that weight for 3 weeks and just lost 4lbs. Different things might affect it - could be as simple as sodium intake or not having a BM or your body just trying to adjust for the changes. Not too much you can really do to break a stall. Your body will move when it's ready. I do not specifically track carbs either, but I typically go by net carbs when I check stats. Honestly protein takes top priority and everything else just falls in line. I do track via Baritastic app so I have an idea about fat and carb intake, but I don't focus on those numbers. I am not of the mindset of all or nothing, so nothing is cut out completely, I just look for the healthiest alternatives and don't have them often because they aren't worth the precious space. A typical day lands around 50 or less net carbs. Let us know if the carb count change up helped for you. -
Sleeved in March; Is My Progress Done?
SomeBigGuy replied to BrandiBird's topic in Gastric Sleeve Surgery Forums
As you lose more weight, its important to track the percentage of weight loss rather than only the number on the scale itself. We all have a base weight with all of our bones and internal organs that won't change (if we're healthy) and the muscle and excess fat on top of that are the variable amounts. For example, using big/round numbers for easy math, not for actual healthy goals - If SW is 300lbs and GW is 100lbs, then the total excess weight one would need to lose is 200lbs. If that person goes from 300lbs to 200lbs (100 lbs total loss), that is 50% of excess weight lost. If the person is now at 150lb and still trying to go to 100lb (50lb excess remaining), then a 50% loss would only be 25lbs. While its not the exact same amount of effort, you can use this to frame it in your mind that roughly the amount of effort to lose that first (300 - 100) matches the effort needed for the 25lb loss from a 150lb current weight. Again, these aren't precise or necessarily healthy weight numbers I gave, I was just trying to paint the picture to help reframe things to prevent being unnecessarily negative to yourself. You are still doing great! Also, don't forget that muscle weighs more than fat (I think it is roughly 1.5x heavier than fat for a given amount). As you build more muscle from exercise, you will gain weight, but it will be healthy weight. That's why it is important to also focus on more non scale victories later in the process, since the number on the scale isn't everything as you approach the finish line! -
Putting on weight even though I'm burning more than I eat?
SomeBigGuy replied to MaameWata's topic in Gastric Sleeve Surgery Forums
It could definitely be the muscle gains offsetting the fat lost numbers on the scale, which is why the scale number isn't everything. Correct me if I am wrong, but I believe muscle weighs about 1.5x as much as fat, so as you approach your target weight you very well could be continuing to get healthier despite the number staying the same or slightly gaining. That's why the NSV's become more important after the initial loss! It's also worth considering how much excess skin may be present. If its a significant amount, you could estimate the weight of that and subtract it from what you see on the scale to get a better idea and avoid discouragement. In that case, the excess fat is gone, and all that's left is the number. -
Putting on weight even though I'm burning more than I eat?
New To This23 replied to MaameWata's topic in Gastric Sleeve Surgery Forums
It's probably the strength training, you will still lose the weight doing strength training, but slower than if you did cardio. Strength training, however is perfect for building muscle, which will ultimately change your metabolism for the better, it just takes time. You are likely building muscle and and losing fat at the same time, but due to the muscle increase the scale numbers are showing no weight change. Consider getting a scale that measures fat and muscle as well as weight. Are your clothes getting looser? if so that is your sign that you are in fact, building muscle. I was running into this problem as well when I had to meet weight goals pre-surgery because I prefer weight training to cardio. So I would stop doing weights and start doing cardio and the weight started coming off faster. After my surgery, I will be going back to weights. -
Putting on weight even though I'm burning more than I eat?
NP_WIP replied to MaameWata's topic in Gastric Sleeve Surgery Forums
Do not go by the fitbit, I used to have one and it counts your resting metabolic rate, meaning the 3k calories its showing you burned include your breathing and your bodily functions not your calories burned by exercise. It also will randomly record an exercise or activity if you move your hand too much etc. I was advised by my dietician to increase my carb and protein since I was doing HIIT or strength training 4-5 times a week, so now I try to do 80g of protein with a shake. I do for carbs sweet potato, quinoa, protein bread or wrap, oatmeal (fiber) and cream of wheat. I tend to weight more or less the same when I train hard since there is water retention for muscle repair, so make sure you are drinking above the recommended 64oz to avoid this. It also helps to look at your weight total per month, not by week or weigh in when you are training, and to start taking your measurements to help see how your body is changing. -
Putting on weight even though I'm burning more than I eat?
catwoman7 replied to MaameWata's topic in Gastric Sleeve Surgery Forums
just wanted to add that strength training doesn't burn many calories (although it's great for your muscles!). Cardio does burn calories, but you have to do a lot of it to really torch them. At my current weight, it takes about an hour of fairly intense cardio (biking, Zumba) for me to burn just 300 calories (although I agree with the others that the calorie counters and machines as well as fitness "watches" are really just estimates) -
Putting on weight even though I'm burning more than I eat?
Arabesque replied to MaameWata's topic in Gastric Sleeve Surgery Forums
I’d question the fitbit too. You’d have to run for around four hours to burn 3000 calories & lift weights for about 8 hours. https://www.stylecraze.com/articles/how-to-burn-3000-calories-a-day/ Remember, exercise contributes to only about 10% of any weight you want to lose. Many benefits to exercising of course but don’t make it your focus for weight loss. I didn’t ‘exercise’ & I lost all my weight & more but that was because my body’s new set point was a weight lower than my goal. But I am an outlier & beat the average stats of losing about 65% of the weight you are to lose with a sleeve. I agree with @learn2cook’s suggestion to speak with your dietician & your surgeon may help too. All the best.
