Dave_NW

I use "Bariatric Advantage" products. They have a variety of them, all tailored to the WLS the person has had. I like not having to take multiples of things to get the nutrition I need. And after a year of being banded, my labs were perfect. No deficiencies at all. So obviously the nutrition is working well. The price is a bit higher than you'll find at the local store for other brands, (averages about 45 cents a day for the multi vitamin), but these are intended for the specific needs of bandsters, and were recommended by my Surgeon. I highly recommend them as well. (And the Mixed berry flavor chewable multi Vitamin tastes fine, and goes down easily. No "vitaminy" taste.) http://www.bariatric...age.com/catalog

Dave

Check your math. 204 minus 40 pounds is 164, not 174. However: My surgeon's team said I should expect to only lose about about 50 pounds. I said Ok, but then proceeded to lose 125. In less than a year. And now those same team members are amazed at how great I look. They want me to come speak to potential new paitents, so they can get excited about having this surgery. I told them we'll see where I am in another year, after I've had plastic surgery to get rid of the excess skin that resulted from my weight loss.

Don't let an arbitrary decision by a psychologist deter you. Their job is to decide whether you're a candidate for surgery. What you do AFTER surgery is completely up to you. If you want to see 128 again, it's entirely possible, if you work hard enough.

Good luck!

Dave

Hey, welcome aboard! Your stats sound exactly like where I was, just a year ago. I peaked at 320, but ate like you, and had the same health issues as you. I had my surgery last December, and I'm now down 125 pounds since I started. I'm basically at my maintenance weight now, and life is EXCELLENT. sleep is normal, energy is great, and my daily activities are energized like never before. My labs are all perfect, blood pressure and cholesterol are in the normal range, and life couldn't be better.

The band is NOT a magic bullet, as you'll hear a hundred times. It takes planning, work, and management to learn how your body works, and how best to respond to being banded. Your daily life has to change to let the band do its' job, but if you do as you need to, you can lose a LOT of weight with this little tool. I have zero regrets, other than that I waited so long to have my surgery. Now, a year after the fact, I have absolutely no intention of ever going back. This truly is life-changing.

If you've made the commitment to alter your life to suit being banded, and you're willing to make the efforts to do it right, you're going to have a fantastic future.

Best of luck in your journey.

Dave

HAHAHAHA! That was great! I was like, "Whaaat???"

Hope you and yours have a great holiday as well. We're heading for a week's vacation in Hawaii. I can't wait! It'll be the first time I can safely lay on the beach without worrying about hunters with harpoons...

Dave

I have Tricare Prime. As I understand it, Tricare won't pay for "cosmetic" plastic surgery. But if the surgery is "medically warranted," they WILL pay for it. So it seems to me (and my surgeon's PA that I see monthly) that we need to document and/all of the medical issues I'm experiencing since surgery. As I continue to lose weight, and my stomach area sags more, I'm having increasing issues with skin deterioration, trouble with rashes, irritation and such, and other things you'd expect to have after losing substantial amounts of weight. At my request, my PA is reporting this each visit, so it's in my record.

My plan is to go another six months (at least 18 months after surgery) to make sure I'm done losing weight, and then take steps to have either a panniculectomy or abdominoplasty. The PA and I figure there will be enough documentation at that point that Tricare shouldn't have any problem paying for the surgery.

Hope this helps.

Dave

Tomorrow is my one year anniversary, and I can't believe it's gone by so quickly. A year, and 125 pounds. Amazing! When I look in the mirror, I continue to be blown away by the dramatic changes in me, my life, and my health. Getting banded was the best decision I've ever made. I have no regrets at all.

And for the record, may I also extend a heartfelt THANK YOU!!! to everyone at LBT, but especially to my fellow December 2010 Bandsters. You have all been SO supportive, you've helped me travel this path easily, and with very few missteps. I most sincerely appreciate every one of you!

Dave

Hi Everybody. I'm still around, too, hovering in the area of my goal, but not losing anything recently. I think I've reached that balancing point where my body has equalized my exercise and nutrition, so my weight has stabilized. I have no complaints - this last year has been awesome. 125 pounds is a fantastic weight loss, I look and feel great, and my doctor says everything on the inside is excellent. Had an Upper GI a few weeks ago, everything looks perfect - no slips, stretching, or problems. I continue to monitor my weight, watch what I eat, and work out daily. I feel amazing, and can't say enough good things about this entire experience.

Wishing everyone good news, and easy success with their band!

Dave

Why not give them a call and ask them what it means? That way you'd know for sure.

Dave

Dave,

Thanks for your response. I never said I didn't have a weight problem. I do not have the problems that you were experiencing. I'm very active physically and actually exercise three to four days a week at the gym. 30 minutes of cardio and 30 minutes of resistance training. I admitted that I enjoy eating and that I have a sweet tooth. That is a fact. I do not binge eat to compensate for the daily normal stresses of life. I have a belly on me that I feel self conscience of especially at the pool or beach. I'm just saying, that a this past Monday my doctor mention lap band surgery out of the blue and it caught me off gaurd. I think I was expecting him to encourage some diet and cutting down portion sides of the sort. I will say, you are correct that I am not in the correct "headspace" at this time for the band. This is all brand new to me and this is why I connected to this forum as part of the research. With all that said, I think it's great that you are 125 lbs less than you were last year at this time. I will continue to think about and research this particular option. Thanks for the encouragement.

John

Hi John. Good to know the rest of things - thanks for clarifying. Sorry if I improperly read into it before. The band is a great tool, but you really have to get behind it and work it to get the best results. If you decide you're a good candidate for it, you can have awesome success with it. Be sure to ask if you come up with specific questions. This forum is filled with people who are eager to help.

Good luck!

Dave

Sounds like your Doc is selling you on what he wants you to have (or maybe what he gets paid more to give you?) like most US doctors...they beat around the bush and give you a BS story until you eventually do what they want you to do, which puts the most money in their pocket. I was banded in Mexico 3 weeks ago and had an amazing experience. I have the 11cc Realize band, which is the oldest band there is and has been revamped and improved. The band they are using the most here in the US these days is a 14 cc band, and most of the time when they put it on you, there is already a fill in it because it is too big for most people to get ANY restriction at all. So, then, you will need many more fills to get to your "sweet spot" since the band is so large, which puts even MORE money in the doctors pockets. Maybe i'm wrong about all of this, but I just get the worst feeling when I go to the doctor here, especially after the experience I had down there. It's all about money in this country, they don't care about you. You're just a number. SO...good luck, fight when you feel it's right, and take care of YOURSELF because they certainly are NOT out to take care of you.

I'm glad you're happy with your band, but after only three weeks, I'm surprised you have such a negative and judgmental attitude about things. Not everyone has that same experience. I've had a 14cc LapBand for nearly a year, and I've had zero complications. My doctor and his staff treat me with respect, they listen to me and answer my questions. I have never felt like a number, and I was at my sweet spot after just four fills. The additional three fine-tuning fills I've received were given only because I asked for them. I agree you have to take responsibility for your success, but not everyone needs to feel like they're being victimized. I certainly don't feel that way.

And to be clear, most people don't have restriction immediately after surgery because they're swollen, and the band needs time to heal in place. Fills come later. The purpose of the small fill in the band at surgery time is so it can be stitched to the stomach wall, so it will heal properly. Lapbands come in varying sizes, depending on the size the patient needs, and the surgeon puts in what the person needs. They are not one-size-fits-all.

Wishing you continued success with your journey.

Dave

Hi Stacie,

You're doing great! Glad to have you here.

Dave

John, I don't know if you're in the right headspace for getting the band. Yes, you want to lose weight, but you say you don't think you have a weight problem, you love to eat, and you have a big sweet tooth. In my opinion, I think that's a recipe for frustration and failure with a band. The band is not a magic bullet that will somehow dissolve your excess weight -- it's a tool you can use to assist you in your weight loss efforts. But you have to commit to eating right, exercising, and making the most of the opportunity. If you aren't willing to commit to that process, you'll have marginal success. And if you give in to that sweet tooth, the weight will come right back. The band will limit the way you eat, but it will not stop you from overeating, or from making poor food choices.

I'm not trying to discourage you. I'm just being honest. If you come to a different frame of mind, you'll likely have great success with the band. But you have to totally want it, or it isn't going to work very well. Keep doing that research, and turn the camera inward. Analyze how you REALLY feel about things. Denial is a powerful thing many obese people have a strong personal relationship with.

I never felt like I had an out-of-control weight problem until I realized I weighed over 300 pounds, and I couldn't successfully lose any weight anymore. I'd lose and gain, lose and gain, over and over. I finally got disgusted with not being able to buckle an airplane seatbelt,, or fit into a restaurant booth, or find clothes that actually fit. It got worse and worse, and when I found I was unable to do my job properly, I decided to take action. I was banded last December, and I've lost 125 pounds since then. I'm feeling better than I have in years, I can fit in that restaurant seat and buckle that seatbelt, and I feel as though I've gotten my life back. It's amazing to feel as good as I did twenty years ago.

Good luck with your research, and with whatever decision you come to.

Dave

Awesome! Roz kicks butt!!!

Dave

Is lapband surgery really easier than following a healthy diet/exercise plan? I hear of reflux, being stuck, slippage, fills, Vomiting, head hunger, hair loss, not enjoying alcohol, Water not going down, pills not going down, constipation...etc. In all the research I have done, getting serious about diet seems much easier life than being banded for life. What do you post- banders think? Im a pre bander just trying to make the right decision....

Sure, diet and exercise are easier. I've done it for years, and I've lost the same 20 pounds about a dozen times! Losing the weight is not the issue. It's keeping the weight off that is so hard. For me, banding was the end result of years of weight struggles, failing on every diet I ever tried, and realizing the clock was ticking. I'm not a young man, and how many more years of life would I have before chronic gross obesity finally killed me? Bandng was a fantastic option for me, and allowed me to finally get my weight under control. I will never look back, nor will I go back to being obese.

Now, nearly a year after surgery, I've lost 125 pounds. I have had ZERO reflux, slippage, vomiting, Hair loss, not enjoying alcohol, Water not going down, or pills not going down. I've been stuck a few times, and each time it was because I ate wrong. If I pay attention and eat as a bandster should, I do not get stuck, and I can eat anything I want. I've had seven fills, the last three of which were very small, to tweak my "green zone" so my band works properly. Fills are no worse than getting a shot. It's a non-issue. Constipation is related to what I'm eating, and how much Fiber I'm taking in. My digestion has slowed down because of my diet, but it's another non-issue. I take Fiber as part of my daily diet, and when it's time to visit the bathroom, there are no issues on that score. It's a small price to pay for being over a hundred pounds lighter.

The decision you need to make is how many more years (and times) are you going to "get serious about diet?" If you could do it that way, you wouldn't be obese now, right? My honest advice is that if you have any doubts of being able to "get serious about diet," then have the surgery. If it doesn't work for you, then have it removed, and go back to chronic dieting. You have nothing to lose but your excess weight, right?

Good luck!

Dave

I have only told a few people about my pending WLS, and don't understand why people think I am crazy!! I keep hearing are you crazy' and "don't you know the risks"? My hubby is very supportive - but even my mother thinks I am crazy for considering WLS. I'm am having surgery-I am doing it for my health and to get my life back! Has anyone else experienced this reaction from friends?

Put it down to their ignorance. My experience has been that most people lump all weight loss surgeries into one group, and they think of bypass before anything else. You say "I'm having surgery" and they immediately think "bypass," and they stop listening. They've heard the horror stories about people who have had serious side effects, and maybe even died due to complications from surgery. And everyone knows somebody who knows somebody who heard about someone else who had a problem.

One of the reasons I'm so up front about my surgery with anyone who asks is so they can put a positive-results face on things. I've had no problems, and have been pretty successful at this whole banding thing. But few people know anyone face-to-face who has been successful. In my case, those early naysayers are now very positive advocates of this surgery, for those who need it.

Dave

Dave_NW you made my day! Been a while since I was told I was smart. Thank you! I just thought someone might bring a camera out and say it was a prank, but it is real life crazy people. I am like you I am 51 and want to lose 15 or 20 more but if I don't and stay where I am at I would be happy too. When they pass away at least their caskets will be light , , , sorrythat was rude , , , but they were laughing at me.

Cheri

You're welcome.

Dave

Cheri, you're way too smart to fall for that kind of crazy talk. Those people are either highly under educated, or just plain stupid. And I agree -- no way can they be eating healthy on such a diet. But then, maybe they're the "bandorexic" type. (Did I just make up that word?) Having a band that restricts eating doesn't mean they don't also have an eating disorder.

I learned awhile ago that I'll never be the weight I was when I was younger, so I don't even try. It's about healthy, and feeling good about how I look. I'm at a weight now that I can live with, if forced to be this size for the rest of my life. Sure, I'd like to be thinner, but as a guy, having a 34" waist at 58 years of age isn't bad. Especially since I'm more than 12 inches smaller than I was a year ago...

Dave

Yes, I went through 6 months of dr supervised nutrition classes, sleep study, psych eval, x-rays, blood work, etc. I'm glad that it took six months because during this time I became more knowledgeable of what I'm doing, why I'm doing this, what to expect, and to just feel much more comfortable with the entire process. I didn't want a quick approval process. I feel I'm more prepared and ready to undergo surgery, deal with the post-surgery issues and begin my new lifestyle. Good luck to everyone!

Peg

Congratulations, Peg! I'm a Tricare Prime person too, and I was banded last December. Hope you're in as great a place as I am by this time next year. Good luck with your journey!

Dave

@Dave - excellent post. You raise a question that has been on my mind and haven't asked anyone yet. I see that you are 58. I am 57 and have not yet had the lp surgery; looks like it will be in late February. Anyway, so what is the plan after the goal is met? Do you unfill a bit so you can eat on a maintenance plan? Can you now eat bigger portions ?? Obviously you need to continue eating smart and excercising but do your options open a bit after goal is met? Im thinking long term here...what will life be like at 75? If Im at goal and eat a slice of bread will I be get stuck? Will I still need to get fills adjusted? Im unclear on long term protocol. Thnk you.

My goals after I'm totally done losing is to continue to tone and maintain muscle mass, so I remain healthy. I don't plan to remove the band or reduce the fill level, since I'm currently at a very "liveable" restriction. If I get stuck, it's ALWAYS due to something I did: I ate too fast, took too large a bite, didn't chew properly, or whatever. I don't eat plain bread now, so won't be eating it later. But toasted bread IS doable, so I have some toast once in awhile. My long term plans with my diet are to continue to manage my nutrition, because I know that if I stop managing my diet and exercise level, I no doubt WILL gain back the weight. And I will NEVER go there again. So I'm committed to staying the course, and living life to the fullest -- until they carry me out horizontally.

Thanks for asking. Good luck wth your journey!

Dave

Something to consider if deciding which type of surgery is best for you:

You may lose faster initially with the sleeve or bypass, but over time bandsters tend catch up to bypass and sleevers, and generally have fewer complications. Depending on how much weight you have to lose, one of those other surgeries may be a good choice for you. However, after a few years, once you've lost the weight and are maintaining, does it really matter HOW you lost the weight? If the goal is to be thinner and healthier, wouldn't you want to follow a program that is (sort of) reversible, where nothing was cut up or out, just in case there is a problem?

When I was exploring my surgery options I was told bandsters usually lose only about 50% of their excess weight. That wasn't a good enough answer for me, and I really worked hard to lose as much of my excess weight as I could. And I was within about ten pounds of my goal weight within about 9 months. Now, just a few weeks shy of my one-year bandiversary, I'm basically at my maintenance weight, I look great, feel fantastic, and I'm having zero side effects or issues. Given the ongoing medical issues associated with the other surgery choices, I'm glad I chose this route.

Good luck with whichever way you decide to go.

Dave

Hello all! I was banded on Friday, November 4th. I found this site while looking for a few answers and its already proven valuable. Seems this is a great place for knowledge and support.

Welcome to LBT, Bob! Have a seat and join in. You're in the right place. I see you're on your way to being half the man you used to be. If you check under my avatar you'll see I have the same goal.

Dave

I've been wearing a Bodymedia FIT since January. It's part of my daily program, and I swear by it. (And occasionally I swear AT it... ) It's totally worth it.

Shelley, tell your Santa the $169.99 one they sell at Costco.com is not only cheaper than any I've found selling elsewhere, (including on the Bodymedia.com website), but it also includes a 12-month subscription to the Bodymedia montioring service, which is about $7 a month. That's an additional savings of almost $84. Win-win. Go for it!

Dave

I agree great post Dave! I do believe that people watch us in our WLS journey. I would never approach someone but would not shy away if someone asked me about how I lost weight. I am not ashamed of being fat and then having WLS, I know I have tried so many times on my own and i just needed some help. Also Dave, you are a great inspiration to people who have never met you so I am sure it is double when they have the pleasure of knowing you in person.

But I do hear people say they have taken their Doctor's business cards and handed them out to overweight people they have seen in public not people who asked but just people they thought could use it. What do you think about that? I would be so upset if someone handed a WLS business card and it would put me in a deep depression even if they meant well it would still hurt.

I know that is NOT what you did and not what your post is about but I would like to hear what people think about that. To me it would be like being overweight and someone asking you when you are due. (okay men you would not know that feeling but just imagine it)

Also I would never lie about having the surgery. I have known a friend since our children were in grade school and they are all grown now. She knew I had the band and we talked about it at different get togathers that we saw each other at over the year I was losing. Well I ran into her the other day and she was so skinny, I mean skinny. I told her how GREAT she looked and she said, "Well I just cut back the last couple of months" She had lost a minimum of 150 lbs and looked great but did she think I was stupid? I saw her daughter-in-law and mentioned it and she said yes she had the Bypass we both agreed how great she looked but why the lie? I do not understand it. I was never mean about me having surgery and her not. We talked about the good and the bad, also her sister had the band when they first started doing them and it was common knowledge no one was judgemental. I would never say I know you had the bypass but it makes things uncomfortable. She really looks great and I would have loved to loose as fast as she did but we chose different surgeries and I am happy for her as I believe she is happy for me but why lie? Any thoughts?

Cheri

Interesting ideas, Cheri. I think handing out business cards without being asked is just plain tacky. It's one thing if someone asks if you have a card for your doctor, but to give it to someone you don't know just because you THINK they could use weight loss surgery? What if they've already HAD surgery, and are not far along in the journey, or are having complications? What a terrible thing to do! I would never do that.

In my case, I've just gone about my business. People are asking ME what I did, and I know they're talking about me behind my back. Everyone tells me how much better I look, and I'll tell them about my surgery if they ask, but I'd never push the information on them. It's like trying to force someone to stop smoking - no amount of pushing will get someone to quit. They have to want it for themselves. And they won't quit until they're ready. (I speak from lots of experience, after smoking for over 30 years, and I finally quit for good 12 years ago. It happened only after I made the mental switch from thinking I had a "smoking habit" to accepting that I was a "nicotine addict." That distinction was all I needed to quit once and for all.)

As for lying about having surgery, I think some people are uncomfortable being judged by others. The woman you know who said she just cut back on things and whatever is probably telling everyone that because she's not comfortable being "out" about having surgery. So you got the story she's probably telling everyone.

I'm well known at my job, and everyone knew I was fighting my weight. My manager told everyone in my department (almost 40 people) in a group meeting that I was having surgery right before I did it, so my secret was out without my consent. But by then, it was a done deal anyway, and I decided not to try and hide it. There are plenty of obese people where I work, so I thought maybe I'd be able to help others if they asked. And many of them have. Even those who aren't obese are asking me things, because they have a family member or friend who wants to have surgery. So I'm trying to put a face on this kind of surgery. If my story can help others, either first or second hand, then it's worth sharing the details.

Dave

Definitely a compliment, but of the backhanded variety. Considering who said it, it was meant as a good thing.

Dave

I've never had a confidence problem, but I did find when I was obese that I stayed home more than I do now. Going out was a hassle, I got tired, I didn't feel comfortable in public, it hurt to walk very far, I didn't fit a restaurant booth, and so forth. You know the drill - we all have those issues. I had a million reasons why I preferred to stay home and mess with my computer or watch TV. (I was closer to the junk food, too, so it was a self-fulfilling thing.) Nobody judged me harder than I judged myself.

Now, 125 pounds lighter, I'm a completely different person. I really enjoy getting out and doing things now. I go to the gym as much because I enjoy it as because I "have to." I enjoy visiting friends and meeting new people. I go to restaurants to meet friends for a drink or Breakfast out or whatever, as much for the social aspects as because I need/want to eat out. I've taken up a few new hobbies, and I've taken a new interest in working on my house. I work in my yard more, and I'm planning more travel, even if it's just weekend trips to nearby areas. (Priceline has some great bargains, if you know how to work it.) I work on my car more than I did, I spend time at places like Home Depot checking out ideas for home improvement, and I've even joined a book club, to get the perspective of other people about books I might enjoy reading.

My point is that *I* am not the same person I was. For as together as I figured I used to be, I think I'm in a much better head space now. And I find the people I meet these days have no idea I was ever obese, so they treat me just as they'd treat anyone else. No self-defense mechanism required. I'm free to relax around those people, and allow myself to enjoy being friends without having to feel I need to defend my obesity or hide behind some defense mechanism. It's a great place to be.

You have nothing to gain by hiding in your home, and everything to gain by being out. You got banded to help yourself physically, but the emotional improvements may be even better. Enjoy the ride. There's no telling how far your new life may take you.

Dave