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Mmmmm sounds like crunchy goodness. OK...so here's today so far. Breakfast: 1 slim fast milk chocolate peanut bar 3 bottles of Water (with crystal light) 1.5 liters so far. Lunch: chicken salad on a pita made with Walden's farm dressing (0 cals) instead of mayo. Snack: Special K 90 cal bar Dinner: Chicken Burger with american cheese, salad with cucumber and black olives and more waldens farm dressing. Dessert: 2 popsicle brand lifesaver ice pops 9 bottles of water so far....just under 5 liters Starving today, filled tomorrow

hmm...and I had thought you all went to bed. I knew I shoulda posted when "the best me" said she killed the thread.

Pepperoni chips? Are these just sliced pepperoni or are the crunchy like chips...im so confused.

165oz of water today, lots of walking and no empty calories.

Breakfast: 1 slim fast milk chocolate peanut bar (exciting right?) Lunch: chicken salad made with Warden's Farms 0 cal dressing instead of mayo on a pita (1/2 cup chicken salad on a pita) Snack: 100 calorie Teddy Grahms pack Dinner: 6 chicken wings, chicken burger with slice of cheese sm salad with cucumber and warden's farms 0 cal blue cheese dressing. Dessert: 2 20 calorie lifesaver ice pops 10 bottles of Water (1/2 liter each for 5 liters of water or 165oz) Weird thought for the day, the pita is less calories then the tortilla wraps, but they seem to leave me more hungry later in the day. When I eat a tortilla wrap sandwich I don't seem to be hungry for much longer time.

Fantastic, another thread which wasn't angry or mean or out of line has now swirled around the drain and gotten sucked into the void. None of the people who are so adamant about posting all this cheese stuff are new here. I'm new, i'm telling you as a newbie here that the cheese thread killing tactic is truly annoying. I was trying to read through a thread to find out how comfortable I would be sharing alot of my personal experiences on this board. A mod here was accused of some seriously bad crap, how would I ever find out if I can be comfortable unless I read that mods response. By the time that happened the thread had degraded into a cheese conversation. Now, this thread, a sincere request NOT to kill the thread killers thread which no one complained about, but the CHEESE conversations in other threads has also degraded. So what does this say to me as a new person here. It says that any conversation that the in crowd of cheese posters doesn't like will degrade into this crap. So now we are being censored by a self elected group? If you don't like a thread, don't read it, don't post in it, and don't talk about cheese or clackers or any other thread killing tactic. Perhaps you all should go back and read this thread again, not just for the people who asked politely that this behaviour stop, but for all the people who are tired of the crap here and are leaving, as well as the for the new people who would really just like to have the same chance for support you long timers have had. Sorry if this offends anyone, but it seems like this little private joke has spread like a virus and is infecting this forum. And as far as the comments about "move on", "getting the last word", "enjoying the drama", and others like them, they're all crap. People came in here to openly discuss their feelings about something here and again, a select group decided this shouldn't be discussed. Someone here jumped on Elizabeth for posting this since PMs were sent instead of a public post, this is why it wasn't a public post, not everyone enjoys confrontation and drama, some of us prefer to just find support and comraderie in a common goal and couldn't care less about the drama and personal in-fighting here. With all that said, I'd like to thank the people who participate in the Thread Killers thread (which I found to be very funny) who also posted here that they don't think its a good idea to drag the cheese comments to other threads. I'd also like to thank the cheese threaders who apologized, I don't think apologies are neccessary, just letting threads die a natural death is enough.

You have my support Elizabeth, as a new person on these forums, the older members seem to be bored by the mundane questions the new people have. The thread killer conversations create more confusion and get truly aggravating to someone trying to figure out what's going on. I'm too new here to take any sides on any subject, i'm just asking that you give us new folks the same starting shot you had when you got here.

I was at my in-laws house chasing around after one of the little kids and realized that A. I couldn't catch this kid inside the house and B. I was so out of breath I thought I was going to have a heart attack. I sat there at my house that night thinking if I can't catch this one kid inside a house, how will I ever keep up with my own kids when I have them. I determined that night that I wasn't going to miss out on having kids and playing and being alive anymore. A bad GP who kept telling me I won't lose enough weight with the Lapband convinced me to stop listening to others and determine what I needed to do myself. Thank god for Dr Geiss, his staff and the support of the dietician, therapist and all the normal people who show up for the third tuesday meeting every month.

LOL We all do think we are alone, you would think we would spot each other on the street like long lost tribe members and hug and reminisce about food gone by and wonderful buffets we remember. The odd part is I was never a "big" eater. I started this journey at 503, but even the people in my support group don't believe that I never ate like them. One of the men in the group mentioned his favorite sunday football tradition was a bucket of KFC extra cripsy and a pizza. He would eat all of it himself. I turned to him confused and said, "you can eat a whole pizza?" he was stunned...mostly because I said I knew I couldn't. I think the most I ever ate was 4 slices and I was so sick/full I never wanted to eat again. My downfall was bad food and inactivity. I ate alot of carbs and fats and limited Proteins and veggies. I have gout so fearing proteins is normal to me, and veggies just dont work well with most heavy carbs or fats. So a nice couple of slices of pizza and some garlic knots, or fettucini alfredo sounded great until you realize that's more then the calories I should eat the whole day. My last meal was Thanksgiving day. I ate some turkey and mashed potatoes, mashed turnips, broccoli and carrots and I even ate some sweet potatoes despite my life long mental issues with them (something about candy and veggies together weirds me out). My wife commented on the way home that she was suprised I didn't eat more since it was "my last meal". Then she was really shocked by all the veggies instead of more mashed taters which I prefer...LOL. I guess we all view that last meal differently. I know when I switched to solids from mushies I was DYING for "real food". All of those anxieties about food disappear for the most part. I still haven't found an answer for life's truest gifts...peanut butter and chocolate, but I am sure one day I will. Until then I will just curse the TV as all these new PB and Chocolate products are advertised.

I had a doctor tell me that the LB wouldn't help someone my size. I was stunned that any doctor would tell any MO not to try ANYTHING to try and improve the situation. I gave him two more times to come around, the third time I told him that he was unsupportive and irresponsible to tell a MO to not try something positive for his health. He told me that I wouldn't lose more then 100lbs. I told him to write that down and read it and ask me if it sounds responsible to tell an MO patient not to lose 100 lbs. That same week I meet with two other doctors, I chose one as my new doctor. I went back to my old doctor and asked him to personally contact my new doctor and not only forward my files, but inform him I left him because he didn't support my attempt at weight loss with the LB. My new doctor found it odd and unprofessional of him. Interesting side note, he moved about 3 months later.

No one ever needs to know your name I have been Big Guy, Big Fella, Big Boy (mostly the English), Gordito (only the spanish), I started wearing Big Dog shirts (because tall and fat stores sold them) and become "The Big Dog", now I am fairly addicted to Big Daddy tshirts...so i've become..."Big Daddy". Most of our clothes doubly nicely as a tent or sleeping bag for our loved ones.

Huge Queensryche fan (from the Mindcrime cd and before, never really got into anything after that cd). Dream In Infrared and Take Hold Of The Flame were always huge favorites of mine. The entire Mindcrime cd is amazing.

OK here's my food for the day for the SMMC Chicas, hotties and one ugly bear. Breakfast: 1 slim fast meal on the go bar (milk chocolate peanut butter) Lunch: Ham and Swiss wrap with mustard and 100 calorie teddy bear grahms snack pack Snack: Special K bar Dinner: 6oz chicken, 1/2 cup Pasta with eggplant Snack: 2 20 calorie popsicle brand lifesaver ice pops only 6 waters so far, it was a really busy crazy day. So just 4 liters so far. Now i'm on bottle of Water #9, probably get 5 liters in before bed.

I'll jump in.... My Christmas wish (Hanukkah and Kwanzaa too!) is to be 400lbs. That would mean I need to lose 103lbs since 12/06 , or 67 lbs from today. I think its a lofty goal, but I don't mind a challenge.

OK so...someone meet The Duke, and someone meet Elvis, I am pretty much overwhelmed with jealousy.

I don't think we've meet, but I like your flirty way of approaching the new hottie on the LBT. Unfortunately, I am married, so I am sorry for all you single ladies who thought they might be able to snag this 500lb stud (now 467 and falling). On a totally seperate note, the reason I don't think we've meet is because I snuck in here across the border. I am from NY, I just liked the concept of this thread and I don't wanna try and start my own and feel all unloved and abondoned when no one joins in. Technically I think this is a chicks only thread too, so i'm crossing alot of borders, but it's worth it.

Check out the freecycle sites as well. It's basically well meaning people who have items which still have a useful life but no use. I have seen cars and computers and above ground pools given away. Mostly its smaller items like books and baby clothes, but it cant hurt.

Saturday we went out eat to see the local aquarium and then we walked around a few of the east end wineries. Sunday I laid about the house like a walrus stuffed with fish. I have a bad back, Rhuematoid Arthritis and Gout and the weather combined with the walking really just left my in agony. I can't wait to lose some of this bulk and become more mobile. I see the changes already now and i'm not even at 50lbs. Imagine once i've lost an entire "Paul".

OK it's monday, I did good this weekend (well for the most part) and here are my monday goals. 1. WATER...lots of it. (i'm good at this and it makes for a positive start 2. Proteins. I am trying to eat a lot more Protein but I start my day with a slim fast bar which is carbs. So I start off negative. 3. Walk. I am HUGE and just waddling about a little has a huge effect i'm sure. I really have to make joining a pool a goal one of these days. 4. No empty calories. My wife made Cookies for her office and left some in our kitchen, I am stressed at work and the 12 yr old George Dickel Whiskey bottle would look great in my hands with a straw in it. So instead perhaps if I meet all my goals I will go for a walk tonight and enjoy a nice cigar instead. Not exactly healthy but...not empty calories.

Sunday: Breakfast: Scrambled eggs with ham and cheese. I thought two eggs would be fine, but appearently not. I had my first true sliming today. I think I didn't chew the ham enough. Lunch: I had a 100 calorie snack pack of pretzel and crackers and shtuff and a 90 calorie Special K bar. Dinner: 6 oz chicken cutlet and 1/2 cup Pasta with zucchini, squash and tomoatoes. (9) .5 liter bottles of Crystal Light

Sorry I ran away for the weekend ladies. I am back and here's my confession. Saturday, the wife and I went to the east end of the island, checked out the local aquarium and then went to a few wineries. We packed a lunch and Snacks and I don't drink wine so that was no problem. Saturday: Breakfast: Slim Fast breakfast bar (I know i'm boring but it works for me) and I also had a chunky Peanut Butter chocolate chip muffin. I have no idea on the calories, but the peanut butter was low fat (yeah...I know it don't help). Lunch: Ham and Swiss wrap with mustard, and later a 100 cal teddygrahms snack pack. Dinner: We went out to dinner and I had 6oz of chicken francese, 1/2 cup mashed potatoes, broccoli, carrot and squash slivers on the side. For dessert I had 6oz of Tastee D-Lite. According to their website, the white russian flavor I had was 11-13 calories per ounce, not too bad. I don't think this was a day of careful eating, but it was a lovely day out and there was A LOT of exercise. I won't go into details...but lot's of walking and climbing and other exercise. I screwed up and didn't count my Water ( I did a lot of re-filling empty water bottles all day, but if I had to guess it would be in the range of (12) .5 liter bottles. That comes to about 6 liters of water or 190 something ozs.

ok...I'm beginning to think that I may have gotten the short end of the stick here, was anyone here catheterized?

I don't know about the ladies, but when I was a asleep the sneaks put one in. However I was lucky enough to be wide awake when they removed it.

I had the surgery on the 6th, I think the first attempt to convince my wife to have sex was about an hour after I woke up. The catheter ruined that conversation. I think she finally gave in on the 7th.

The band are usually an un-washed bunch of longhaired hippes types who carry diseases and infections with them. I would not sleep with anyone who slept with the band for fearing of catching whatever you got from them. Oh....wait....you mean lapband. I didn't wait (i'm a guy), and I had no problems. The same of course goes for oral, but again a. I'm a guy, b. I never PB'd. I think they are purely based on personal comfort. I don't think it's healthy to strain those stitches, but I'm sure if you are careful you will be fine.