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Specific answer to the specific question. Only someone who has the sleeve could answer the original question. It is pretty clear. I will bet you right now, that no one after having a sleeve for 6 months or more, wishes they had the lapband. Now if you will find all sorts of people who have had the band and wish they had a sleeve. That is easy to find. You will also find people who have had both and not one I have ever found, wishes they had the band back over the sleeve.

Just to clarify a few things. A. The band is NOT unfilled and then refilled to give you better restriction. It is unfilled when you have a comlication. B. "You can enjoy a band because you can keep adding restriction, even with the complications it causes," but you are almost guaranteed to lose your band if you do this. Continually, getting stuck and or PB'ing is a comlication that you can not accept. If your doing this to lose weight with the band, you will end up losing your band. C. The initial surgery can be thought of as being less invasive, but the end result after you get to restriction and have all of the scar tissue, may not really be less invasive when considered in it's entirety. D. If you want to talk about band veruses bypass and the differences then fine, but don't lump in sleeve complications with the bypass. They are two completely different surgeries with two completely different sets of long term complications and concerns. Honestly this is the second time you have talked about your bypass friend gaining all the weight back and lumping it in with the sleeve. They are NOT the same, but you post as though they are. THIS thread was specifically asking about sleeve versus band, so your friends problem and regain with bypass is completely utterly irrelevant, and misleading. STOP IT already!!!!!!!!! Your being a zealot. And your intentionally, or unintentionally misleading with your post.

Your moving forward!!!! Great news.

My wife is going for her sleeve in 5 more days!!! She is actually getting a little less nervous at this point. She has ordered her "last meal" for Friday night....LOL

And I think Wasa was pretty clear, that if you don't see any problem with it and your ok with that, then that is ok. She is just stating that she wouldn't be ok with that. So I think your both in agreement here, these things don't bother you. If they don't bother you, then don't worry about it. I will say something almost totally unrelated, but kind of relavent since you mentioned it. I personally, didn't really like PV as a vacation spot. Again, this is just my personal opinion, but the Water was colder then I care for, but if you again, if that doesn't matter to you, then it may be a great location. Kind of similar??? For vacationing, I prefer the Carribbean side of Mexico.

Well, that was my experience, maybe yours will be different? Let us know. After signing up for the "free trial", I got a call about a week later, from someone who could barely speak english....I'm guessing that is maybe when they converted me to the "subscription".

Tell them all you got the idea to have the surgery after your mothers lapband surgery......LOL....perfect revenge.

On a related note, I have figured out, that I lose the most amount of weight by staying at just above 60% of my BMR. Anything more, and I slow down, and anything less I slow down. I'm sure it is different for different people.

Go here and plug in the same information with different ages....you will see how age does affect things. BMR Calculator

Metabolism rates do decline as you age. Also, if your not getting some form of excercise your metabolism will slow down. But, probably not quite as much as they may want you to believe. They quit watching gastric bypass people at 4 years, because they know they are most likely going to start regaining and not be happy. My guess, is most bypass patients regain, because they slowly stretch out the pouch. Why? Because too much ghrelin is driving them to overeat, and they are left with too much stretchy part of the stomach that is then stretched back out. Also, poor food habits or choices do creep back in.

I order a glass of water every time, even though I won't drink it. It is just easier then saying no twenty times.

I don't think it is really a coincidence that you can self pay and it cost about the same as with Insurance and your deductible. They know what they are doing, and how to get you to not use the Insurance. I don't know about the public health system idea, to fix this kind of thing. It seems that a lot of public health systems are so slow that people are paying themselves anyway.

I am losing still, but so so slow at this point....I want to just jump it, and be done!!!

Yea, they give the shelf space to what makes them a better profit margin. I have a mini goal, kind of, I am going to be going through the post op diet with my wife. I thought it would be easier for her, if I just drink the same Protein Water and progress through the stages with her. I only have 30lbs left to lose, so it will be interesting to see if I get a jump in weight loss while doing the same thing? Probably not, but at least she won't have to watch me eat food.

Awesome!!!!!

Have you had surgery before? I don't think the reaction to a bug bomb is really indicative of anything, but you should tell them. Your lucky it didn't kill you....it is nasty stuff.

Sorry, but I was busy working and couldn't post early on, when it was more relevant. I can't believe no one else bothered after my post to do some searching.

Do a search on google for "race versus weight discrimination". If you can't read all the information out there and realize that being fat makes you more likely to be discriminated against then being some other race, then you are just kidding yourself. Would Barack be president if he were fat? NOT A CHANCE!!!!!!!!!!

a section of it reposted here "Compared to other forms of discrimination in the United States, weight discrimination is the third most prevalent cause of perceived discrimination among women (after gender and age) and the fourth most prevalent form of discrimination among all adults (after gender, age and race.) " So it is just as likely her weight. Sorry, but the poster has a bias here. They want to believe the discrimination is based on something they can't control, versus being discrimintated against on something that people think can be controlled.

Bj, you made a statement early on that is flat out wrong. Racism is NOT more likely then prejudice against someone being fat. There have been lot of studies that prove this, here is a link to just one. ABC News: Study: 'Weight-ism' Is Bigger Than Racism

Amazing what people can say. When I was 12, a guy asked me when I was going to get a bra. 30 years later and it still bothers me.

Ok, I don't want any plastic surgery. Yikes, I'm a coward. I have seen it, and it is alarming to me. Having said that, if I get to goal and still have man boobs, maybe I could have them removed and implanted in someone else at a reduced cost?...LOL

It luked lyke it was speled corectlie to me? But, you wouldn't know I can't spel eather.

Boy, that is right on. I have always been able to diet and lose weight, but I have always put it back on, plus some. Good luck on the credit thing. I had bad credit at one time, because I got in a fight with the IRS....well, I won, but in the meantime, they made my life hell.

My wife, will be heading down next week. She is already nervous!!! It's going to be a long long week. We will arrive a week from Saturday.