BethFromVA

I never thought specifically that she lost because of her answer. I simply had an issue with the villianization of her for being honest. It lended credibility to the possibility that she could have lost it due to her answer, but I hadn't seen anything about her scoring or whether she would have lost anyway.

Wait, what?

It's possible, yes.

Thanks -- I think...

I'm certainly not trying to take away your fun. :crying: It's just that a question like that was going to piss off one side or the other. Maybe you're right -- ratings.

Wow. Is this indicative of what the left is really like?

I don't know why a loaded question like that would be okayed, but what I'm saying is she didn't know what she was going to be asked. She answered honestly (and for some unpopularly), and I would think that would be what people would want in their contestants.

But my understanding is they don't know the questions that will be asked. They are supposed to think on their feet and not have pre-rehearsed answers. Does anybody know different from this?

Is that really fair? She didn't choose to have this question lobbed at her by that "judge." :crying:

LOL! Okay, is she a great speaker? No. However, she was immediately hit with a very hard question by a very out-of-the-closet gay guy. Who would sound like a brainiac? And since then, the only things I've heard her speaking about had to do with the same issue and some emotional speaking about the villianization she was put through. The winner is Kristen Dalton from NC. Tell me she sounds better. They sound about the same to me.

I found the winner's question/answer session, and she doesn't sound any better: YouTube - MISS USA 2009 BELONGS TO MISS NORTH CAROLINA KRISTEN DALTON It's at 2:30.

Yes, but two things here: I haven't heard her slamming the fact that she didn't win the crown. ALL the focus has been on her answer. I do recall her saying that it was more important to her to stick to her beliefs, and that she did. As for being PC, why? There are already those here who have slammed others for being PC and stating feelings that are opposed to how they really believe.

Add to that the fact that you don't know what you're going to be asked, and that ups the ante. Did any of these women sound like a Mensa member in their speeches? Or is she the only one under the microscope?

Yes, but when one is 21 years old and only being voted on for how pretty they are and how hot they are in a bikini, do you really expect Rhodes Scholars? :crying: As for the other, sorry, I was trying to distinguish what you were saying, and I thought it was something different.

Okay, ew! :crying: LOL

Absolutely I do. What benefit am I receiving when my tax dollars are being used to keep them afloat or pay bonuses to people who ran these businesses into the ground? What benefit am I receiving when my tax dollars are being used to bail out the auto industry rather than allowing them to do the RIGHT thing and file bankruptcy so that these insane contracts can be renegotiated or, better yet, done away with? What benefit am I receiving when my tax dollars are being used to pay other people's mortgages?? I do everything right, don't overextend myself, work hard, pay my bills on time, etc., yet many who made $100,000 but spent $125,000 every year are getting the benefit of MY hard-earned money to essentially reward them for bad decisions they chose to make. I will say now before the howling begins that I am not speaking of those who legitimately fell on hard times. I am talking those who bought houses they couldn't afford or had no intention of paying for. So do I feel that I'm being stolen from to pay off the bullcrap choices others made, whether personal or commercial? Hell yeah! Then I guess we don't. I don't believe the economy was created to be "my brother's keeper." I choose to keep as much of my money as possible and for the government to be good stewards of our money. Neither of these things happen. Instead, "economy" now means redistribution of wealth, and that is stealing no matter what you want to call it. That's okay. I mean, could this board really handle two of me? :crying: The thing is, BJean, I don't hear what you hear because I don't listen to left-leaning media, which pretty much encompasses the entire industry (with very few exceptions). And what I would hear or read would be more right-leaning compared to what you listen to or read, I'm sure. So we could both back up our stances with quotes. What I want to SEE is data that back up the quotes/opinions of others, whether they be yours or some economist who may simply be an Obama lackey for all I know. The thing about economics is you typically don't know much about whether something's going to work until you try it and it does or it doesn't. It's not an exact science due to all the variables that are at stake here -- one of which is simple human nature.

You mean like how a certain someone still has not proven he was born in this country? :crying:

Lulu, I'm not talking about those voters. I don't understand those voters, but I'm not talking about every single person who voted for him. I'm solely talking about those select individuals who voted for him based on everything other than believing he could actually do the job as president, and that includes those who believe they would get something out of it.

Now we're just trying to help her get rid of Rocco, the killer 47-pound Chihuahua. I had her running Rocco off on the tennis court. :crying:

They certainly aren't being selected for their IQ. :crying:

Trust me, I know. And if anything, he's working past socialism and more towards the fascist side.

Many on the left DO see him as akin to the second coming. There were those who were on YouTube the day he got elected saying that Obama was going to pay their mortgage and their car notes. I saw it myself. Heck, I've even heard people in line at the store talking as if Obama is "gonna do this and that" for them. What's so sad is something about him makes certain people less reliant on themselves and instead believing that he's gonna do something for them. It's sickening.

They certainly may. However, all this debacle did was prove that those who DO feel negatively about things will HAVE to be fake or face the consequences. You can't really change how people feel about certain issues. But for those who say that some are fake, well, now you see why.

I haven't heard a word about it for some time now. Is the case in trial yet?

Shoot you? Why would I do that? I find you rather entertaining. So... this is an opinion and not a fact? "However, most credible economists all agree that the steps that the Obama administration has taken are vital to a recovery." Interesting, as it's presented as a fact. But, mkay.