BethFromVA

Um, if you are forcing others to have to come to your rescue INCLUDING the state via money, you do NOT have that right. She is not a Duggar, people who, though I think they're nuts for having so many kids, have made it work without relying on the system. They are there for their kids, seem to have a good working system in their home, and did it the right way. That's like saying I have a right to live in a five-bedroom home and force the taxpayer to pay for it. What kind of insanity are you espousing, Patty??? Oh, and by the way, did YOU at least pay back the money the state paid to you for your irresponsibility? I doubt it... :crying:

Dr. Phil was talking about this case today and had the mom from what's-his-face and Kate plus eight, and she was talking about how hard it was for her with SIX newborns and only two other children. She had a crew of no less than 50 people a WEEK helping out, and the only thing she ever got to herself was 15 minutes a day that she was made to eat her lunch on the patio away from everything so that she could have a few free moments. On Phil they showed the cost of their household -- again, mind you, "only" eight kids -- and they came up with $1.5 million a year. This idiot has six more than that, so you can nearly double that cost. Forget college funds. Ain't gonna happen. That's just the average cost, and frankly, I don't know if it's the first year (i.e. diapers, etc.). OH, and for just the six, it would require 30 hours a day of breastfeeding, an amazing feat no matter who you are.

Don't lump all of us in with this nutcase. I have never done anything like this; I have never done something that has caused me to need services (and I don't mean just lose a job and need unemployment or temporary help -- I mean do something STUPID that REQUIRES the state to HAVE to take care of you). I had student loans, yes, but that's what they were -- LOANS. I paid back over $8,000 in student loans. She will not be paying back the money she is bilking from the state. God did not intend for her to have these children. SHE chose to have these children; and worse yet, she made this choice after proving she can't even take care of the first six. NOBODY has the right to put their wants before the rights of others. Her wants will cost the state dearly. She does NOT have that right, and to do so makes her a bitch in my book -- a spoiled, selfish bitch.

No worries, I'm ignoring the troll.

Wow, that's fantastic!! I'm 3 hours out from lunch and hungry again. :crying:

That's abusive! Omg, what if people lost their jobs (especially these days) for missing work like this for such stupid stuff??

YEP! The blue team rocks, but so does the one green girl.

Yeah, I don't know what it is. Maybe it's some of that weight loss hormonal thing I've heard about. :crying:

Thanks, slim. Are you kidding me??? Letting out due to a possible thunderstorm??? I mean, I went to school in blizzards, with snow drifts up to second-story windows. Now they can't go in the snow or if there's ice. But NOW -- thunderstorms???? I'd be asking somebody to do some 'splainin.

Well, I'm home. The crap may hit the fan tomorrow or Friday, but I don't care at this point. :crying:

I would also think that any prerequisite procedures you did should work towards the operation and not have to be repeated... but find out for sure.

Omg, are there those?? :laugh: I thought if people were diligent and listened to their bodies and really worked the band, we could all hit our sweet spot. Hmmm...

I wish I could, but I start a new 12-week class tonight that will be 3 hours long. Ugh. I think I'm leaving now though. I've had it. If they want to fire me, then fire me. Screw 'em.

No thanks! :crying: I'll pay for a hysterectomy tho...

Now I'm getting yelled at at work by a boss for something I didn't even do wrong -- the golden-haired child (who's not here) did. But she came out and reamed me a new one. I'm about to go home. This is one effed-up day.

I would guess by now (fourth fill on up) they would last longer... I know it's different for each person and also depending on how much each doctor puts in but it's gotta start slowing down at some point.

Unless she is getting them and not going to school... which is fraud. I was making tonight's dinner while the show was on, so I certainly was missing some stuff. The only other thing we have to worry about is her getting pregnant again the regular way. :crying:

Good way to put it. I have been VERY careful not to let my hunger make me moody or lash out. I am very moody today (starting last night), but it has nothing to do with food/hunger/dieting. Even during my pre-op and other liquid phases, I said I would NOT complain, NOT gripe, and NOT lash out because I really, really want this. I felt if I acted nasty about only having liquids that I was telling myself I wasn't worth this little bit of pain. It doesn't mean I don't feel frustration by some of the challenges I've been faced with that are brought about by others, but I have been holding true to myself and standing my ground. Our foodie friends asked us out for the umpteenth time a couple weekends ago, and though DH had a migraine and didn't go, I finally said yes because I've been saying no so much I didn't want them to think we don't like them (they don't know about my band). I said I would go if I could choose the place, because then I would know ahead of time what I could get and still be safe. And it worked.

Hell, she's failing NOW. No way she can get herself out of this mess she's created. And the only ones who suffer for her utter selfishness are the kids. Heck, even the older ones NOW don't look forward to all these babies.

The scary thing is, I haven't heard her say she's done. :smile:

Crap, they blocked TMZ at work. :smile:

PJTP: I'm REALLY crabby today. Don't know why specifically -- just feel very anxious and wired about stuff. And I took my "happy pills." :smile:

I thought this time I would try to hold out the month. Ugh... :smile: I was supposed to get my fill tomorrow but couldn't get off work, so now it's Monday (a holiday for me).

Thank you, kglover, that was an excellent post. I think for me right now, the issue is I am not at my sweet spot and am still working a lot on willpower. Like right now, I'm starving. I ate Breakfast, but I'm starving. When the time comes (and sinks in) that my stoma is thisbig and can only hold thismuch, I know it will eventually be a matter that I CAN'T overdo it too badly. But right now, it's sheer willpower and no restriction, which makes it harder for me at this phase. I also freak out because of ME -- the mistakes I have made in the past that made me put it back on. I know I will need to talk to somebody about this as I go along because I have done complete 180's after losing 50 or 70 pounds in the past. I need to know why (I think I KNOW why but need to resolve it), and because for me this is my last chance, I guess maybe my emotions over what is happening now are getting to me at times. I'm afraid of myself right now. And I am very hard on myself when I fail. Couple this with having a major thing like surgery, and I think at times it does a mind game on me. *I* do a mind game on me. I hope your friends can do well with her change as well. I realize that the physical part of this is almost nothing compared to the mental part. And you DO look hot. I am very proud for you. I know one day I will forgive myself and prove to myself that I'll do this fine, but right now it's still so new... I just have to trust that I'll do the right thing and use all the support I can get. Some people do well by themselves; I happen to need the support. Why do I know this? Because in the past I didn't look for it or ask for it and I failed myself.

Fourth fill?? Wow! We were banded the same day and I thought I was being moved along with getting my third one next Monday!