Spinoza

38 minutes ago, ShoppGirl said:

Wow. That is so perfect. I always get nervous when I’m trying to ask all my questions. Not because I’m intimidated by the doctor just because I respect that they are busy and when I try to go quickly I always forget something. They asked me if he wanted to schedule me with him or the PA though and I said him because he wants to answer my questions but I’m thinking of asking to meet with the PA first. I’m thinking that it’s just another copay and the more they can answer the more time I will have with him for the more serious stuff. Plus once I get answers to some stuff I may realize I have more questions.

Ah then my advice is write your questions down (list on phone or actual paper prompt) and bring them with you. I have done this so many times in so many processes. Never regretted it. You might look like a dork but you will leave a satisfied and well-informed dork!

Honestly all you have to do is ask here and someone will do their best to help. More people will be along shortly too with much better suggestions.

I cannot thank this community enough for all the assistance I have had. Given the (minimal) information given to me before, during, and after my surgery I attribute 90% of my loss to you all. I wouldn't have had a clue otherwise.

🤷‍♂️

Just now, Spinoza said:

I would try to keep your questions open ended.

I'm interested in hearing how your previous SADI patients have progressed and where they have ended up. Have they had complications or have any of them regretted having SADI? If so, why?

Would it be possible to give me a ballpark, numbers wise, of the spilt between your sleeve, bypass, and SADI procedures? Do you have to undertake special training in SADI, given that it's not a routine WLS?

Please can you explain...(whatever specific Qs you have about the procedure or life after the procedure, or whatever)

It would help me with my decision to know how many of your previous SADI patients were second surgeries and how many first. Why was that?

If you were advising a relative of yours who was considering SADI, what would you tell them?

If you were in my position would you have this particular procedure?

How do immediate and long term complications tend to manifest?

I would try to keep your questions open ended.

I'm interested in hearing how your previous SADI patients have progressed and where they have ended up. Have they had complications or have any of them regretted having SADI? If so, why?

Would it be possible to give me a ballpark, numbers wise, of the spilt between your sleeve, bypass, and SADI procedures? Do you have to undertake special training in SADI, given that it's not a routine WLS?

Please can you explain...(whatever specific Qs you have about the procedure or life after the procedure, or whatever)

It would help me with my decision to know how many of your previous SADI patients were second surgeries and how many first.

If you were advising a relative of yours who was considering SADI, what would you tell them? If you were in my position would you have this particular procedure?

How do immediate and long term complications tend to manifest?

You are sounding so positive and forward thinking - you're ready to do this. 💪

Brilliant - great start!

Thank you for sharing your story. All of us who have had WLS have a fear of regain but it happens. It's helpful to hear where you went off the rails. I hope your second surgery gives you another chance to get to where you want to be. Please let us all know how you're doing.

That's so frustrating. I totally get that you don't want to jeopardise your upcoming procedure. You've been 'passed' to all intents and purposes.

Could you view that process as a means to an end but view a therapist completely outside the process as just for you? Even if you had to pay a bit it might be worth it in the end. I have seen so many people here having to work on their underlying relationship with food in order to get where they want to be.

I KNOW you will know all of this already. There's a big difference between having a disordered relationship with food and having a diagnosable eating disorder I think xxx

Lots of us have become obese because of the former and lots the latter.

I hope you can get where you need to be with your surgery 💚

My friend are you speaking to a therapist with relevant expertise? I know you are currently choosing your revision surgery and that's a huge decision. Please in the midst of that don't lose sight of your relationship with food and how you lost and regained weight in the past. We've all been there MANY times.

Feel free to ignore me if you have all of this under control. You have done so well before and I know you can do again xxx xxx

Honestly this is the best place I've been ever. Nobody will judge you (well unless you need a complete reality check, LOL). There is so much knowledge and expertise and people are so willing to share. I would never have got to where I am now without these guys.

Do you have a date or ballpark date for your surgery? So sensible to look at your eating habits well in advance.

With respect to your original query - if you can eat Soup then everything will be fine. 😍

5 hours ago, summerseeker said:

My restriction is still fierce. I eat 5 small meals a day. To get some decent amounts of veg in I have to make it into Soups. I eat these at least once a day. I love Soup

Carrot and coriander

Lentil, harissa and carrot

Celery and stilton

Mediterranean with Orzo Pasta

Gazpacho

Beetroot and feta

French onion and cheddar cheese

Creamy mushroom

Yes also, quite happy to go to lunch in @summerseeker's house any old day - all sound gorgeous and have given me some ideas!

Hi OP - I think from your post and your stats that your surgery wasn't long ago? Honestly at this point whatever veg you can eat (and tolerate) should be fine. The quantities will be tiny. And they contain loads of micronutrients. Just be sure they don't displace anything that gets you to your Protein goal (v important early on!)

I am over 2 years post sleeve. Another huge fan of Soup here - I started it as soon as I could and added as many veggies as possible with the protein (often lentils).

When I make casseroles I add loads of veggies and make sure I take plenty in my helping.

I have a salad almost every day - just any suitable veg chopped up with a dressing and protein (chicken or cheese).

Very soon all of these options will be open to you and it's really great that you're integrating veg into your diet so early.

1 hour ago, ShoppGirl said:

My first thought was a snarkier version of that such as your concern has been noted but, I think I’ll take my medical advise from those with medical degrees. Contrary to how that may sound, though, I’m not a confrontational person so I would only ever think it in my head. I like your version as an actual solution. Seems like a very nice way to say stay in your lane.

Ha - love this!!!

3 hours ago, catwoman7 said:

you can always increase calories to gain weight (or to stop a loss), but keep In mind that a vast majority of us experience a 10-20 lb bounce back regain around year 3. You might want to factor that in. I purposely went below my goal just in case I had a rebound (and I did...actually closer to 30 lbs for me...).

Exactly this - think of the extra loss as money in the bank unless you or your team get concerned.

I have also learned lots from people here who haven't done as well as they wanted to. Everyone has something to share. There's no shame in regain, it happens to loads of people for so many reasons. I say post away wherever you like. I suspect all you will get is well wishes.

I really really hope you get a better sustainable result with your revision. You're doing a good thing for your health. 🤗

cheese. It is the answer to all of life's problems post WLS. Compact, filling, nutritious and portable at room temperature.

Further down the line nuts and fruit will be your best friends.

If you can avoid processed bars then that might be good. If not, the bars might be better than the available (more processed) alternatives such as fast food.

Good luck - I hope you enjoy the field trip!

I think you're good. Just keep on keeping on!

Differences in size never cease to amaze me. I am almost exactly the same weight as you but 3 inches taller and I am a US size 8-10. No idea how that happens.

OP I am a firm believer in the concept of a new set weight after bariatric surgery. I would have been happy 15 or 20 pounds heavier than where I settled. That was my goal actually. After I got into that ballpark I didn't try to lose any more, but it just happened. And then, eating very much the same stuff, my loss then stopped. And I've maintained thereabouts for a year or more with very little effort.

If you can keep eating healthy and nutritious foods then could you just see where that gets you to? There are lots of healthy people with a BMI of 25+ and lots with a BMI of 19-. You'll find yourself somewhere in the middle eventually I suspect.

On 3/15/2024 at 3:58 AM, Arabesque said:

The final look. The designer was excited I was wearing her boots & pointed me out during her Q & A. Had a lovely chat with her afterwards. She’s delightful.

Heard that she went to Chanel earlier in the day & they made her line up outside. They made the Chanel head shoe designer line up outside Chanel! 😱 She introduced herself & they said please wait here with everyone else. And worse there was only one customer in the store. Just one person! Don’t want to be that store manager & staff if she reports back to Chanel.

Later in the evening, a woman came to me & asked if I was a 38? When I said yes, she said they were supposed to be my boots. Quick & the dead I replied. We laughed. Apparently I’m always getting in before she does so misses out.

Oh wow. Dress is amazing.

Hahaha too re the boots. You snooze you lose?

I've missed your salads ms.sss!

Stalls are stalls. There is absolutely no rhyme nor reason to them, they just happen. People try to break them by upping or lowering calories, changing exercise regime, whatever. And when the loss restarts they SWEAR that what they did caused the renewed loss.

The fact is, stalls last a few days, or worse, a few weeks and then they end. If you stick to your programme you'll start losing again soon. You don't need to do anything drastic.

Honestly can't remember but I think I had 2 weeks off but wish I had taken more. I know everyone is different. I had no complications at all but a lot of pain from my incisions, especially the big one, and trouble sleeping because of pain in all positions. I did manage my work after 2 weeks but it was a complete slog because I was still sore and tired.

I am almost two and a half years post sleeve. At your stage I was eating around 800 calories I think, but if I've learned anything it's that we're all totally different!

Well into maintenance, my typical day is:

Breakfast: full cream milk latte. I have never eaten breakfast at breakfast time and never will.

Mid morning: one or two fried or scrambled eggs, depending on how hungry I am. Generally one.

Lunch: a salad with some Protein (last night's dinner meat, tinned tuna or deli meat - sometimes cheese). Or more often Soup - usually homemade and usually with either chicken or pulses for protein. Or occasionally, if I'm feeling really lazy and can take the sugar hit, 100g tinned baked Beans with cheese and hot sauce.

Snacks, probably three a day at this point: cheese (and usually a couple of crackers with that); 150mls [approx] full cream milk kefir or a kefir yoghurt; nuts (30g approx); seeds (20g probably); deli meat; fruit (I eat at least one portion of berries or an apple every day). I tend to keep lots of meat snacks in the fridge as they're filling and help me reach my protein goal.

Dinner: whatever I've cooked for everyone else but without the carb element, or just a tiny bit. Basically protein and veg - in that order. But that includes fried chicken, bolognese, casseroles, sausages, roast dinners, fish pie (no potato topping) - everything I used to eat before my sleeve.

Supper: I do most of my carb intake here. Toast and butter, porridge (oatmeal to you lot) with stewed fruit, crackers with butter (or cheese if I haven't cheesed out by then).

Exercise: I do a 1 hour aerobic exercise class 3 days a week. I walk between 2 and 4 miles every day and I jog about a mile once or twice a week instead of walking. I am still amazed by what my new body can do. I probably should do more.

This is my diet 90% of the time. I have lots of days when I stray badly off the path and eat chips (crisps) and occasionally chocolate. I also drink wine every weekend, which I accept is totally empty calories with no nutritional value. I just track everything and try to adjust if I can. I've had a couple of regains of a few pounds now (4ish), but so far I've been able to jump on those, ditch the rubbish (carbs mainly), up my exercise and get back to 140 or thereabouts. It's no problem at all - a couple of weeks of being more vigilant about what goes into my mouth and a few runs instead of walks. I really hope I can keep doing that. I may have to accept that my set weight is higher than 140 but I am loving it here!

Just checking that that isn't all you're eating!

I'd also check with your team that the takeout food that you are eating fits into your overall plan. We have such a small capacity at 2 months that we really need to pack nutrients into every meal. Rice and noodles have nothing to offer at this point. The chicken definitely does.

In addition, the months after your surgery, when your appetite is zero and your capacity is small, are your chance to re-train your tastes. In a year's time much bigger volumes of takeout will be much easier to get through and much more apt to cause you not to lose what you should, or even to start to regain.

I totally understand that your cooking facilities are limited and that makes things hard. I hope everything goes well for you.