dreamingofasleeve

On 5/3/2018 at 1:14 PM, Tealael said:

I had an episode
Sweats shakes nausea abdominal pain
Then the release
It happened VERY quickly after I ate the offending item, never again
High sugar content


HW 270
SW 238
CW 182
VSG 11/7
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As much as i am terrified to experience it i think it will also keep me in check!

I had my WL surgery on 10/12/17. I just had surgery for kidney stones on 3/30/18. The kidney stone surgery was way worse than the sleeve surgery. I had ureterscopy surgery where they go in an laser the stones thru your urethra. I did pass one stone which was about 5mm and my doctor removed 2 other stones during surgery those were about 9mm each. I had to wear a stent after the surgery and on top of that I had an infection. My doctor wasn’t able to get all the stones because they were inside of my kidneys and she didn’t have access to them.

After all of this I did meet with my dietician for some advice. And she was able to give me some tips.

It’s really hard to manage your diet between the sleeve restrictions and kidney stone restrictions, but I am trying and I’m drinking all the Water I can.

This is what my stones were made up of:

40% Calcium oxalate monohydrate

30% Calcium oxalate dihydrate

20% Calcium phosphate

20% ammonium Acid urate

I did have kidney stones before my surgery but never stones this size or this many.

My Urologist told me to drink at least 100 oz of Water and stay away from animal Protein. Although my dietician says I can have 6 oz or less a day of animal Protein. So I guess I’ll see how it goes. I take another x-ray in June to see if I have any additional stones.

Oh you poor thing I am so sorry. This terrifies me honestly.

So are you sticking to protien shakes and supplements?

Have you been on a calcium supplement?

I hope I do not have issues bit I already know I am prone to stones so this is why I started this thread.

I hope they get better. Did they recommend eating or drinking anything other than Water to reduce risk?

Have you been able to get 100oz of water in a day? That is so much and I haven't even been sleeved yet ☹️[emoji25]

10 minutes ago, Faith2002 said:

I also have dealt with kidney stones prior to surgery. Not very far out from surgery. My urologist told me to only take calcium citrate as the Calcium carbonate increases kidney stones. You even have to watch if you take Tums as they are carbonate based.

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good to know i will have to check into this as well.

Its a struggle as the diet that we are supposed to follow post op is what you should avoid with stones

2 minutes ago, jess9395 said:

If you have high blood Calcium PLEASE see an endocrinologist and get your parathyroid hormone checked! That was the cause of my high blood Calcium and stones.

I needed parathyroid gland surgery to correct it (NOT related to the thyroid, just nearby). It was left untreated way too long and I needed major surgery instead of minor and wound up with osteopenia from it.

i will for sure have mine checked thank you!

i have only ever had 2 stones but if i get another one we are definitely be doing some tests. nasty little things.

50 minutes ago, Creekimp13 said:

You guys really need to double check with your doctors about this Calcium thing.

Most people get Calcium oxalate stones....and it's easy to think....if I have too much calcium, I'll get stones! Must not take too much calcium!

Except, typically...this is a VERY bad idea....because dietary calcium BINDS with dietary oxalate so it can be safety passed and NOT turn into stones. Stopping calcium might actually INCREASE your risk of stones if you eat oxalate rich foods.

I know this all sounds bizarre......but please check with your doctor to be sure you're following the best protocol for you and your specific situation.

To avoid stones.....Drink lots of Water. Avoid salt. Limit animal Protein.

Study a list of oxalate rich foods and eat them sparingly.

This is true if you are using a natural source of calcium. If you are taking a supplement you can increase the chances of stones.

I was able to catch one of mine it was Brown in color with little yellow crystals on it. Meanest little thing ever this was by far the worst one I have passed. They took it but didn't test it [emoji25]☹️

You guys really need to double check with your doctors about this Calcium thing.
Most people get Calcium oxalate stones....and it's easy to think....if I have too much calcium, I'll get stones! Must not take too much calcium!
Except, typically...this is a VERY bad idea....because dietary calcium BINDS with dietary oxalate so it can be safety passed and NOT turn into stones. Stopping calcium might actually INCREASE your risk of stones if you eat oxalate rich foods.
I know this all sounds bizarre......but please check with your doctor to be sure you're following the best protocol for you and your specific situation.
To avoid stones.....Drink lots of Water. Avoid salt. Limit animal Protein.
Study a list of oxalate rich foods and eat them sparingly.

Thank you! I'll be 20 in May. I recovered pretty quickly and I think you will too! You can do this [emoji123]

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I have had them on and off sense I was in my 20’s. I have an elevated level of Calcium in both my blood and urine. I had all the tests and nothing medical going on, just one of those **** happens kind of things. I was taking something but I could not tell you what it was. After my surgery, we retested and I was almost normal.
BTW
When I got my list of Vitamins to take…The Calcium supplement was X’ed out in red

Oh girl I hate the gym too! lol I am 5 ft even and still have my gallbladder. I feel like it's a little harder to look like I've lost weight since I'm short but there is definitely a difference between pre op and post op. How old are you, if you don't mind me asking? We seem to have a lot of the same stats.. [emoji4] we def could help each other!

I have the same problem as you. My wife had the bypass and that’s what I was going to get. My kidney doctor recommended that I get the sleeve as the bypass would put me at a higher risk of stones. I am 5 months out and no signs of them. Here’s the thing though…As the weight is coming off my Calcium level is going down. Not normal and might never be but it was low enough to stop the meds for it

Ah I see I have only had 2 and never had the chance to get them tested to see what they were made of. I know that is a key in stones so you can figure out what excess minerals are there.

We're your stones Calcium? Is that what you mean by the levels going down?

So were you on medication to help prevent kidney stones?

I am glad to hear you haven't had issues. Stones are the worst! I seemed to get mine around the time that I was following a Keto diet. So that could have been the cause.

I'm hoping to get to 130 too, so we pretty much have the same starting weight and goal weight! I know exactly how you feel. I'm hoping the Keto diet works for me too. The sleeve is such a great tool! Especially if you are good at going to the gym (which I'm not LOL)

Wow, that's awesome! How long were you on it?
It's very hard to stay on track. Even now with surgery, I catch myself trying to eat how I used to. Fortunately, my body doesn't let me anymore lol I haven't gained any weight, but have stayed around 170 lbs. My highest weight was around 230. What is good about surgery (at least in my case) is that although you can hit a weight loss stall, it's a whole lot harder to gain more back.

I'm actually trying the Keto diet now. How did it work for you? Did you lose any weight?

I did I lost about 30 pounds. I haven't had surgery yet but it was the one diet that did actually work for me.

I unfortunately let myself fall back into old habits and have gained about 15 back ☹️

I think I have experienced it pre-surgery too. back in the day, if I drank a sugary drink, i'd get all of the dumping symptoms. I just never knew what it was. anything like a wine cooler, glass of OJ or syrupy sweet drink would almost always do it. and I was like 120#.

I have had kidney stones prior to wls I am wondering.if anyone has issues with them post op?

If so did you get them before surgery, have they gotten worse?

I am certainly hoping not I know after surgery I will be much more concious of the Water intake I am getting.

But it scares me those little suckers were the worst.

That sounds terrible I'm sorry you guys experience it. I knew it happened to some sleevers not all but some. I hope I don't get it!

Yeah I know sleevers typically don't dump but I have seen that some people have. Just curious if anyone had any issues. I hope I don't!

Had anyone who had the sleeve had dumping syndrome?

If so do you know what caused it?

This is a fear of mine post surgery.

17 minutes ago, jenn1 said:

The waiting and song and dance is frustrating. Hope you get a date soon. Keep in touch.

I KNOW!!! Im getting closer! Just have to keep doing what they want, and that is ok cause i would much rather get the surgery locally.

I will! thanks for the support! This community is so nice!

4 minutes ago, jenn1 said:

Oh hey! Just noticed we are both in Idaho. My surgery was with St Lukes. When is your surgery date?

Crazy i didnt even notice haha! I am going to have surgery at Bingham Is is the only other hospital in idaho that is a MBSAQIP Accredited Weight Loss Center other than ST.lukes!

I dont have a date yet Still doing the song and dance for insurance!

1 minute ago, jenn1 said:

I will be four years out from sleeve surgery this June. Maintained at 130's first two years easily. My third year I had a gain 10 to 15 pounds. I got it back down. Maintaining for me is chasing the same 10 pounds up and down the scale.

My health is fantastic, Type one pre surgery my a1c is in the non diabetic range. I'm in the best shape of my life, I am making up for lost time.

Only one small complication. Reactive hypoglycemia ( Low blood sugars ) Its manageable with food. I've been managing my blood sugars all my life so this is nothing new.

That is so good to hear! I feel like being in that +-10lb range is pretty normal and ok i feel like most "normal" people chase that range of weight!

plus 10 pounds is doable if you are managing it at 10 and not 100 that is amazing!

Glad to hear you haven't had many side effects! I haven't had any issues with blood sugars but i am glad it is manageable after the sleeve!

i cant wait to be on the other side of this!

Congrats on getting your life back

15 hours ago, jess9395 said:

There’s a medication called Actigall your doc can prescribe during the loss phase if your gall bladder is fine now

Oh ok ill have to ask my surgeon about it when i talk with her!

Obesity can cause gallstones. So can rapid weight loss.

I don’t miss jr

No I understood what you mean, the post ops don’t tend to hang around on the site past a few years!

I had my gallbladder removed several years before my WLS so I’m not a good one to ask on that!

Thank you so much! sorry i worded that weird i totally didn't mean people wern't maintaining their weight loss i meant people that had met goal and are in the "maintaining phase"
That doesn't sound too bad, as you've said you shouldn't eat those anyway! i am glad to hear you are doing so well 5 years post op!
One question do you still have your gallbladder?