Melesg

Thank you so much! I really appreciate you taking the time to answer in depth all the answers to my questions!! I am ready to pick up the phone for that consult but so hesitant! I have 70 lbs to loose, so the dr would probably tell me that I can expect to loose 35 in the first year and then the procedure becomes slightly less effective for the 2nd half of the weight loss? I guess that is my hangup over just having the regular sleeve since that is more permanent and would be the same out of pocket cost for me since I am self pay. You are really awesome for taking the time to help! I do have one additional question (sorry) regarding your current situation with food. You didn't mention if you have kids but I have 3 kids in the house that I would like to try and keep this from if I can. But we go out to eat often (sports and running around), I would not be home for most nights during dinner because of being right at the beginning of the cross country sport season (which ends up being a lot of walking for me) and trying to explain my non eating at Thanksgiving would be a huge give away to extended family. Are you just homebound at this point until you are done with the puree phase or would you be able to fake your way through a meal at a restaurant?

So I'm a few days into the puréed stage and noticed I have to be very conscious of eating slow and taking time between bites. I wasn't feeling the restriction as I thought I would and may have over eaten once or twice and then you feel that pressure, haha. I'm measuring my food to make sure I stay unde a cup in volume to avoid it and it seems to work well for me. I still haven't felt hungry. It's kind of weird because I can remember every decision about food being based on quantity, pre-procedure. Hopefully this is the start of a new life where I eat what my body needs and not what my mind believes. Good luck to everyone.

I lost a total of 24 lbs and still ongoing.

[mention=324596]Melesg[/mention]
ooooooops
just realized you were asking about the ESG
don't know if restriction and things are the
same with sleeve. sorry bud
kathy

Yea, Belle, you did it! Glad to hear that your procedure was successful. You seem to have been out for a long time following your procedure. I wonder if others were out for 5-6 hours post-procedure. Do you think that the difficulty you experienced the first couple of days was related to the anesthesia? Was your throat sore afterwards?

What I notice is that the "restriction" is delayed more for me in the puréed phase. I noticed that if I don't take enough time between bites and eat slow, I can get uncomfortable 20-30 minutes later. Happened to me twice and I finally figured out what was going on. I'm about 5 days into the puréed stage.

[mention=324596]Melesg[/mention]
you are asking me a question that happened almost 6 years ago!!??? LOL
i'm lucky to remember something that happened almost 6 minutes ago
i was eating solids at around 5-6 weeks PO. it's a great idea keeping a log/record
book. daily basis, write things down related to your WLS. ie problems, successes -
and in betweens. very helpful. Then, 6 years from now when a cutie petuti newbie
asks you a question, just go back to your log. Or of course, just ask me LOL
keep up the good job
good luck bud
kathy

I feel restriction only on heavy Proteins like chicken, tuna fish, but only if I go over 4-5 oz. In my case, I don't feel it immediately, it takes more than half an hour to feel it, therefore I have to be careful. Certain fruits like pineapple also weights on my stomach. I wouldn't describe it as painful, but more like pressure.

[mention=324596]Melesg[/mention]
liquids, go smoothly down the hatch. they will not give
you any restriction - doc never put me on puree' - (my request)
not sure about puree/and restriction
when you start gradually eating solids - you should/will
feel that restriction we love
congrats on your early success
continued good luck
kathy

Wondering if any esg patients can tell me what restriction should feel like when starting purée diet? I had a weetbix and milk and later a scrambled egg today be really didn't feel restricted or "full" at any time? Is this normal? I have been compliant with fluids only for 2.5 weeks with no vomiting so assume I have not stretched anything. Any advice would be greatly appreciated 😬

@Belle3endosleeve How are you? Hope the first few days are going ok?

Thank you so much for the update! Wow an IV Clinic sounds like a godsend- I'm sure I won't have that option - surgeon is 6 hours away. I know so many medical professionals- I'm just going to have to really be incredibly diligent about Water intake. How much have you lost so far and are you feeling any fatigue? Thanks for advise of 2-3 days support - doing procedure on Thursday have to be back at it by Monday. Fingers crossed it's enough time.

Another question: are green juices and smoothies allowed after the procedure?

How are you today Melesg? 14 days until my procedure [emoji30][emoji15][emoji4]

I had the procedure on the 15/08/17.
The bad news
They said there would be some mild nausea and it would settle about 8 hours after the surgery. Well it didn't. It lasted 10 days. I lived on the vomit wafers. The pain from the gas also killed for 2 weeks Constipation is also difficult I'm used to being daily now it's at worst weekly at best every few days
Good news is ;
no pre op diet , BMI started at 33 I'm 167cm / 5ft 6. I started at 93.7kg. In first 2 weeks lost 7kg. Been at a stall for the last 2 weeks. With a fluctuating gain of around 500g up and down. Restriction is real. I've just moved onto soft foods so feeling a bit better.
Exercise (weights) restriction until end of week 6. So 2 more weeks to go.
Struggling to drink my 1.5-2l a day. Can't do Protein Shakes of any type. Trying to reach 50-70g of Protein per day. Some days is a struggle.
My diet looked like this.
No pre opt.
Day 1-14 fluids only that can pass through a thin straw.
Day 15-28 purée fluids that can pass through a thick straw.
Day 29 -42 soft foods / mash.
Day 43-56 start moving to a normal diet.
Just now I'm day 29 and my diet looks like this.
Breakfast - 1 egg scrambled,
morning tea - cheese stick.
lunch slow cooked roast pork 100g and tablespoon apple sauce,
afternoon tea yopro yogurt,
dinner fish, with garlic butter.
Dessert custard or chocolate milk or a banana paddlepop(125ml)
around 60g protein and about 800-900 cal
im trying to walk about 30 min at least 3 times a week will be hoping it to more when I can eat real food I find right now I fatigue very quickly and am still recovering from spinal fusion 10 weeks ago
favorite thing in liquid stage - cauliflower Soup
favorite thing in purée stage - mince blended, guacamole and cheese was nachos without the chips
good luck everyone

12 hours post ESG!! Tough day and hoping tomorrow is much better. But it's done, which is awesome.

@SydSyd So glad to hear that you are doing much better. I am 3 days out from my procedure and appreciate your honesty about the early struggles with esg. I imagine that its really difficult to eat enough Protein now? What does your restriction feel like? The good, bad food is interesting - what sort of eating guidelines were you given?

Thanks heaps and I hope your next week is even better.

Mel

" userid="321485"]Well, I'm kind of disappointed, but I guess everything happens for a reason. My doctors office called and moved my procedure date from 9/8 to 9/25. I was getting so excited for next Friday and now have to wait a few more weeks . Oh well, I guess I have a few more weeks to prepare. It just sucks because I'm having my food funeral and probably packed on 5 lbs this week from eating everything that I need to say goodbye to!


Kiki
Endoscopic Sleeve Gastroplasty
Procedure day: 9/8/17

Yeah, honestly I knew I'd feel a little down, it I was not expecting just how much.
We were never ones to go out all the time, or have elaborate dinner parties, or go crazy at social functions with food or anything- but suddenly not having food be part of your life at all, is a hard transition. No cooking on your own, or with your significant other, no trips to the grocery store and saying "this looks good" (healthy or otherwise), no sitting at the table for meals together (how long can you make 2 table spoons last...).... i didn't think it'd be that hard to just eat cottage cheese, yogurt and smoothies all the time lol ( just very very small amounts of those things)...kind of thinking "it's not forever" doesn't really seem to help....I'm thinking that as I transition to different foods and get more used to a schedule things should improve. When I feel a little stronger I can get out and do more stuff too, hopefully start being more active.

@SydSyd I hope you are feeling better soon. Recovery sounds a little rough. What anti nausea and pain meds have you had?

@kikisue Nil by mouth for 2 days, clear fluids for 3 days, full fluids for 3 weeks then a week of puréed diet then soft foods. My understanding longer term is high Protein, lower carb. Let us know how you are after your procedure - I will be 4 days behind you. Good luck.

@Belle3endosleeve My follow up sounds similar. Need to meet with the psychologist and nutritionist regularly. Which I am greatful for. It's a whole body re-education that will hopefully change my habits forever. Program success appears to correlate with ongoing follow up, the more frequent you see your team the higher the chance of success!

@Belle3endosleeve Ah, now that is smart. And it's true, we will be going hard at losing weight. It's not untrue to say we are eating much less and moving much more. It is interesting the idea that surgery is the "easy option". Seems far from easy to me. I have an amazing husband who tells me that it's a really brave choice, to give up something that you love (too much food) forever. And that gives me great perspective. It's true, we will need new coping strategies when food is no longer the reward or consolation prize.

Does your program require ongoing appointments with a psychologist and nutritionist?

I'm 5'9 and 108 kg - hopefully not for long though. Have you told many people about the procedure yet? How much time are you taking off to recover? Is it nuts that I feel like life is about to begin all over again?? I'm so excited that we are doing this together!

Hi Belle3endosleeve,

Thanks so much for your reply. I am almost 42, also have 3 kids and bmi is currently 36. I am about the start the 2 week pre procedure diet which is 2 shakes and a meal with 200g Protein and non starchy veg. My dr has a very strict post procedure diet of 4 weeks liquid only, so I imagine it's going to be a tough month! And the worst is no drinking even Water for the first 2 days. We are booked into a clinic for IV fluids only.

what is your pre and post procedure diet like?

Mel x