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And at 286 pounds you look unhealthy now.

A thin, 'sunken in' looking face won't kill you. Being obese will.

Sleeves don't stretch.

Umm... what? Yes they do? It's normal for them to stretch to some capacity as you get further out from surgery. If it's stretched too much, some have had to have revisions done. It just can never stretch back out to what your stomach was once before. But if you fall into the old habit of overeating constantly, it will stretch.

@@ryan_86 4oz isn't a whole lot with how far out you are, but I also know everyone is different. Sometimes I can eat 3oz of something and be stuffed, other times I can eat 6oz and be content.

Snacking is okay as long as you're making smart choices. I limit myself to one snack per day, usually during a stretch of time where I go the longest in between meals. When I do snack, it's typically vegetables or something whole grain and nutritious (I personally limit these because carbs are my mortal enemy).

The stretchy part, or fundus is removed during surgery. My surgeon told me they don't. Also, check out Dr Matthew Weiners videos about it.

You're new to surgery. You'll learn. But don't act like you know everything because you don't.

Sleeves don't stretch.

It is completely normal to be able to eat more as things heal up and the swelling from the surgery goes down. It's kind of the natural progression of things. That's the exact reason people say it's just a tool, not a magic wand. I can eat so much more at 3 years out than I could at a year out.

Measure your food, make sure you're always eating Protein first because that's what keeps you fuller longer. Stay away from simple carbs and sugars as much as you can, because those are the things that can trigger hunger. Drink lots of fluids when you're not eating, that should take the edge off of the hunger, also.

Unfortunately, we still have to use good old fashioned will power.

Yeah, this forum has been overrun with newbies as most of the vets were run off. Lots of misinformation being given, kind of the blind leading the blind. It's frustrating. Obesity Help seems to have a lot more vets that contribute regularly. You should check it out.

It doesn't last, unfortunately. But take advantage of the time it does to make healthier habits for when the time comes that your appetite returns and restriction is less.

Although permanent, the effects of WLS are not. Too many don't understand this.

How early on can a stall happen?

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Weeks 2-5 is usually your fist one.

I never understood the panic about stalls. As someone who dieted regularly my entire life, I knew stalls or plateaus were just part of the process. You can't consistently lose weight every day, all day. It's unhealthy.

I'm fighting a small bit of regain from dipping my toes in the pool so to speak of "just a little of this and that". It just doesn't work that way in maintenence. I just have to keep doing what worked, or it won't.

IMO eating "a little bit of this, a little bit of that" (i. e. grazing) is way more dangerous than being able to eat a whole burger in one sitting once a month because I think one loses track of how high the intake actually is really quick but to each their own.

Actually a single burger is not actually that much when it comes to quantity. Think about how much we could eat before WLS. Or how much people with normal sized stomachs are able to eat.

It's all about returning to bad habits. I know. I'm 3 years out. You're not.

Almost 3 years out and haven't thrown up once since surgery. You're only going to see bad stuff on forums. I've had no issues at all.

I have gained weight and am in week 4. I don't get it. Besides Orange juice (around 11-20 oz some days), the only thing I digest is straight from my NUT book. Ground turkey, sour cream, and cheese has been my meals the last week. It takes all day to eat 3 oz of all of those things combined, 2 oz is turkey btw. I'm not eating sweets or anything else that is high in sugars. I'm at a complete loss!

You're not doing anything wrong. It's impossible to gain real weight early out. Everytime I'd stall, I would gain a couple of pounds. You're probably going into the 3 week stall everyone has. It's just our bodies reacting to starvation mode. No worries.

As far as gaining weight further out and people gaining all their weight back, the surgery doesn't control what you eat or how much through out the day. It is the natural progression to be able to eat more as times goes by. I'm almost 3 years out, and can eat so much more than I could 1-2 years out.

So say I can now eat a small dinner plate of food. If that plate consister of fried chicken, mashed potatoes and dessert, even if I can't eat it all, that kind of eating will add up over time, same as before surgery. I can eat a whole pizza if I really worked at it all day. That's why it's important to use the first year or so to change to a healthy lifestyle in order to keep the weight off.

43% of people who have had surgery gain weight back by returning to old, unhealthy habits.

I can't edit the post, but congrats to everyone that followed their diet. I was asking those who did *not* follow the diet what happened.

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But your words here define the real issue. This isn't a diet. It is a prescription given by the doctor that provides your body nourishment at the same time that it gives your body time to heal from surgery. It is dangerous to ask people to comment on violating that prescription.

Making choices (good, not so good, or otherwise) pre-op is one thing; post-op is something completely different (that could be deadly).

Okay, so you came in my thread continuing the trend of not answering the question. To me, it is a diet. It's a way of eating for a certain period of time. My surgeon, nurses, everyone calls it that. Not orders. There is absolutely nothing wrong with asking people about their experience with not following the diet plan. I know what the risks are. They kind of tell you that before you head in for the surgery. We all know the risks. However, that does not mean everyone follows them.

Plenty of people who have had the surgery, knew the risks of not following the pre-op diet. Did that stop them from cheating? Absolutely not. Even though one of those risks was possibly death or not getting the surgery at all, temptation made itself known, and they still cheated. Now is it dangerous to ask them how their surgery went even though they cheated? Absolutely not. You're simply asking about their experience.

The decisions you make both pre & post op will determine the rate and level of success with the surgery. A decision from both sides of the surgery can also mean death, not just post op. So if you have anything pertaining to the question at hand such as an experience of your own, I'd love to hear! But don't come on here trying to diagnose issues from a simple question.

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It's a PRESCRIPTION diet. A POST SURGERY diet.

Trying to advance stages too soon after your stomach has been sawed in half and sewn back together is like trying to run on a broken leg.

Why can't people understand this? I can't figure out if it's stupidity or sheer ignorance.

And now you're getting mad for no reason?! I have not said once that I'm advancing my diet too soon. If you'd read the thread, you'd see where I've said multiple times that I'm looking for experiences for others. Drinking two shakes a day and eating a healthy, surgery friendly meal is not a PRESCRIPTION. It's a DIET. A DIET FOR BEFORE AND AFTER SURGERY. You can probably find your answer to your final question elsewhere because I think we all have the same understanding that it's a diet meant for surgery to induce weight loss and depending on whether or not you're pre or post will determine the rest.

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I can't edit the post, but congrats to everyone that followed their diet. I was asking those who did *not* follow the diet what happened.

Follow my

But your words here define the real issue. This isn't a diet. It is a prescription given by the doctor that provides your body nourishment at the same time that it gives your body time to heal from surgery. It is dangerous to ask people to comment on violating that prescription.

Making choices (good, not so good, or otherwise) pre-op is one thing; post-op is something completely different (that could be deadly).

Okay, so you came in my thread continuing the trend of not answering the question. To me, it is a diet. It's a way of eating for a certain period of time. My surgeon, nurses, everyone calls it that. Not orders. There is absolutely nothing wrong with asking people about their experience with not following the diet plan. I know what the risks are. They kind of tell you that before you head in for the surgery. We all know the risks. However, that does not mean everyone follows them.

Plenty of people who have had the surgery, knew the risks of not following the pre-op diet. Did that stop them from cheating? Absolutely not. Even though one of those risks was possibly death or not getting the surgery at all, temptation made itself known, and they still cheated. Now is it dangerous to ask them how their surgery went even though they cheated? Absolutely not. You're simply asking about their experience.

The decisions you make both pre & post op will determine the rate and level of success with the surgery. A decision from both sides of the surgery can also mean death, not just post op. So if you have anything pertaining to the question at hand such as an experience of your own, I'd love to hear! But don't come on here trying to diagnose issues from a simple question.

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It's a PRESCRIPTION diet. A POST SURGERY diet.

Trying to advance stages too soon after your stomach has been sawed in half and sewn back together is like trying to run on a broken leg.

Why can't people understand this? I can't figure out if it's stupidity or sheer ignorance.

No matter the diet or how your losing there is a stall in weight loss, it's like your body says ok that's enough and stalls you just have to wait it out. Just keep doing what your doing and at least your not gaining, let me know how it's going.

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This is terrible advice.

Look, something isn't working obviously. What do you do when something isn't working? You figure out why, and change it.

Start tracking and measuring. You can't measure where you need to be if you have no idea where you're at. What are your calories/protein/carbs per day? Do you know where they need to be in order for you to start losing again? Of not, experiment a little and find out. Tweak some stuff.

I think going Keto is a very good start. I also think you should shock your body a bit and start moving more. If you're not doing anything currently, start. Even if it's walking. If you're already walking, walk more. If you're already exercising, start a different routine. HIIT training and weights is an amazing way to burn fat. Your body needs a jump start to get things moving again, and exercise usually is just the ticket.

If you really want things to change, you'll find the change needed to make it happen. Good luck!!

Never vomited, and almost 3 years post sleeve.

Can they do an RNY? That's too bad! You must be so disappointed!

A waist trainer will do nothing for loose skin that has been too stretched out.

Loose skin is all dependent on certain things: age, how long you've been overweight, and how overweight you are. Even at a young age, if you have 100+ pounds to lose, you will have loose skin somewhere that you can't do anything about without surgery. Other parts may be dealt with through exercise to help build the muscle up around the loose skin, giving it the appearance of being tighter.

I am walking 3.5 miles on my treadmill every other day (about). What are or did you do at 3 months post op?

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You are doing well.

Be consistent with the exercise and be mindful of the calorie intake and all will be well.

Measure, track, evaluate, adjust activity accordingly.

In short, weigh daily and take appropriate action.

I am barely at 500 calories if I am lucky for my intake. I have lost 41lbs in 3 months. I started at 257lbs. And I am 5'3".

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Wow 500 calories? That's not nearly enough at 3 months. I'm surprised your weight hasn't stalled out yet. If it happens, definitely up your calories by 100-200. That's should get things moving again.

I have a suspicion your surgeon will think it's far too early for you to be be drinking.

Most of these answers is why over 40% of people gain weight back after surgery.

Unrealistic expectations and unsustainable behavior changes in the beginning are the reasons 47.322% of WLS patients gain back their weight.

I see both of those things in the answers running through this thread.

I'm also 3 years out. I think I know why people gain weight back after a certain amount of time. There are too many know it all newer post ops here. You are one of them. You know nothing about maintenence or weight regain at 4 months post surgery.

Most of these answers is why over 40% of people gain weight back after surgery.

No, I stay away from fast food as a rule because that was part of the reason i was fat.

What newer post ops don't seem to understand is capacity increases the further out you get, so making better choices is key to keeping the weight off.

I'm almost 3 years out and would be able to eat almost a whole hamburger. That, along with a slower, more stable metabolism from maintaining my weight for 2 years would cause gain.

Instead of the whole fast food hamburger with bun, I'll eat just a burger patty, no bun with veggies. No fries because they offer zero nutritional.value to me. These choices have allowed me to keep the majority of my weight off for almost 2 years, and I intend to keep it that way.

I'm fighting a small bit of regain from dipping my toes in the pool so to speak of "just a little of this and that". It just doesn't work that way in maintenence. I just have to keep doing what worked, or it won't.

Anything that is chewed up easily and doesn't take up a lot of room in the stomach like crackers, Cookies, etc. It seems like you can never get full with these types of foods and overeat.

Most insurances will not cover a Tummy Tuck. Some will cover a panniculectomy with certain requirements.

Most post weight loss plastic surgery can be very difficult to have insurance cover unless there is a documented history of rashes, infections, or hindering movement.

Exercise can help, but some skin will be too far gone to ever snap back. It just depends on the degree you can live with. I can live with mine. Shapewear is a great thing.

I notice most people who worry about loose skin are pre op. Once people actually have the surgery and lose weight, it becomes so much less of an issue for most. It can be a pain sometimes, but then you find ways to deal with it whether it be shape wear, surgery, or exercise. Being thinner and healthier is much more important to most people than some loose skin. Obviously there are different degrees of loose skin, and it can sometimes become a physical hindrance, so that is a valid concern. For most of us, though, it's strictly cosmetic.

What an incredible story! Talk about a new lease on life! Good luck and God bless you as you move forward with your weight loss journey!