Miss Impala

Same here! I often don't use heat in the winter and in the summer we keep our apt at 64° and still use a fan while sleeping. At work I have 3 fans! But ever since the surgery, I can't get warm easily. Grant it we are in a bone chilling freeze right now, but I hope this evens out a bit. Loving the not sweating though! I am going to have to but an electric blanket and throw I guess. 11/11/16: HW 380 11/28/16: Duodenal Switch Surgery 11/28/16: SW 374 lbs 12/14/16: CW 350 lbs

If you didn't see the original post, you have no context through which your reply even matters, so... Sent from my HTC Desire 626s using the BariatricPal App Fortunately I was schooled about the other post. That is why I found the correlation, of simply using the term bugle caused a whole different thread unrelated to the "newbies" question. That is why I still didn't understand how they think it was making fun of her when it was actually the term that caused the hilarity. 11/11/16: HW 380 11/28/16: Duodenal Switch Surgery 11/28/16: SW 374 lbs 12/14/16: CW 350 lbs

Good suggestion! I keep dropping money for things I can't tolerate! Will try this, cuz I am having a horrible time getting my protein in. I have tried everything, but the smell and taste of the protein makes me puke it back up. So far am using Atkins shakes, Healthy Wise Soups, Atkins Lift Water (as tolerated), but I had to get something in my system that would stay down. So I had to go to soft food more quickly than I wanted. Cottage cheese and very, very soft Salmon. Now I can tolerate the Oikas Greek Yogurt so far. I have tried adding the Protein Powder to stuff, but even holding my nose doesn't work. Blech! 11/11/16: HW 380 11/28/16: Duodenal Switch Surgery 11/28/16: SW 374 lbs 12/14/16: CW 350 lbs

That is soooo frustrating! Unfortunately most of that was not caused by out medical system, but by our legal system and how many laws are passed to supposedly keep drugs out of the hands of addicts and criminals. Instead, law abiding citizens, who actually care about having no criminal history are the ones made to pay. Personally, I have had it with it. Thank God there are still people out there with compassion left, because I have none. Everyone has learned biases, and drug addicts and no more compassion are mine. If they want to do drugs, by all means let them and hopefully they will quickly die without harming someone else in the process. I know that sounds harsh. But their actions combined with the actions of our society and legal system have made me heartless. Just trying to purchase psuedoephidrine for my husband and an elderly friend who could not drive.... they treated me as if I was criminal. Told me I could not purchase the quantity I was requesting even though it was I think the first time in 3 years I needed to purchase that particular drug. My husband needed the larger quantity because he is truck driver. You can't get meds that actually work out on the road, you often can't purchase them OTC because you have an out of state license and they can't track it. My elderly friend doesn't drive and felt to ill to get out. So 12 pills for each was not going to help either of them for very long. After 35 years of having ADHD, I decided to try some of the meds that were available. I hate coffee, but I had to drink it before school, at school, and after school for years until I learned to keep most of my hyperactivity to myself. The rest I was often in trouble for being disruptive. Eventually, I lost myself in books. My teachers finally realized, not making the connection, that as long as I maintained my A's in their classes, leave me alone if I was reading in their class or not participating. About two years ago my company had just moved us into a new building that was a poorly thought out layout for a person who has ADHD. I have severe issues with all the foot traffic and noise because now they have us set up like a call center almost. I began and still have terrible issues concentrating, focusing and multitasking. Whereas before I was machine and rapidly becoming invaluable. This new location though... my usual meds, the only ones needed and allowed, that I used while driving a truck the 12 years previous, caffeine and fish oil were no longer sufficient. So I explained my situation to my doctor. Texas makes you have to go thru a state certified counselor to become certifiable lol. So my doctor started me out on Adderall. After some trial and error it worked great! I was dieting and working out religiously. Staying focused. But I had the same experiences trying to get medication. I was treated like a criminal. I tried other prescribed meds to avoid that treatment, but they were even less effective than caffeine and fish oil and some even put me into severe depression. So I went back to Adderall. Then my insurance company began to refuse to pay their portion because I was over 18 yrs old. I had been self medicating with caffeine since I was 5 yrs old. Being treated that way, my meds costing $350 a month, I have given up the fight for now. I just had my surgery and will try meds in a year or two. In the meantime, I still struggle at work, especially now because I have been off of caffeine for 6 weeks and still have 3 weeks to go before I can take any. I hate having this legal and criminal stigma from medical community attached to me because of actual criminals. I think that is why I have lost my compassion for them. Then I think of my addiction to food and how hard I have tried for years to gain control only to fall off the wagon over and over. And I get a little of my compassion back. I remember that in my belief system as a Christian, that our soul returns over and over to learn things. We are spiritual beings on a The Human Experience Rollercoaster, and that we chose this experience. And like Jesus we all have a cross to bear, but fortunately for me, I am only responsible for myself. So I keep trying to take these trials like at the pharmacy, the feelings of being out of control over my food my entire life as teachable moments for my soul. But in the meantime... I am going to fight those bastards to stop criminalizing a patient because they need something more than Tylenol for pain or caffeine to help me focus. Yeah, so my rant was longer. Sorry. Checkmate... giggling.. 11/11/16: HW 380 11/28/16: Duodenal Switch Surgery 11/28/16: SW 374 lbs 12/14/16: CW 350 lbs

Prayers for a quick recovery and guidance thru this difficult situation. Thank God you didn't listen to him! 11/11/16: HW 380 11/28/16: Duodenal Switch Surgery 11/28/16: SW 374 lbs 12/14/16: CW 350 lbs

I second the other postees. Also to be able to do the surgery, they have to pump your abdomen full of air to be able to see. That is why they have you get up and walk so much, to get your circulation going to process the Fluid and gas out of your system. I ate a lot of ice chips and helped with the knawing feeling. It did get better when I started the thicker fluids. Protein Water, protein Soup, protein Jello. 11/11/16: HW 380 11/28/16: Duodenal Switch Surgery 11/28/16: SW 374 lbs 12/14/16: CW 350 lbs

@@theantichick true, Nazi sounds harsh, and I apologize for that. I appreciate this forum! And just happened on the thread and really enjoyed it until it was sidelined. ???? 11/11/16: HW 380 11/28/16: Duodenal Switch Surgery 11/28/16: SW 374 lbs 12/14/16: CW 350 lbs

I can see how you might see it that way, but it must be an inside joke cuz most of us only took at face value. A thought process on an unfamiliar term and context. I do however wish you the best. 11/11/16: HW 380 11/28/16: Duodenal Switch Surgery 11/28/16: SW 374 lbs 12/14/16: CW 350 lbs

Agreed! 11/11/16: HW 380 11/28/16: Duodenal Switch Surgery 11/28/16: SW 374 lbs 12/14/16: CW 350 lbs

Well I don't see how your post on another thread and this one relate other than you brought up a term that the OP was unfamiliar with, which then lead to this thread and the thought processes involved when trying to figure out what something is. As an outsider who didn't read your post only this one it didn't have anything to do with you, but the OP showing word puns etc. I am sorry you had a Bari Nazi come down so hard on you. I just entered my 3rd week, and believe me, because I had no idea how difficult it was going to be to tolerate the smell and taste if the Protein shakes, powders etc, I too had to quickly figure out some alternatives to get some kind of nutrition in. I lived on Egg Drop Soup. It was the only thing I could stomach, so I understand your question. DS performed 11/11/16: HW 380 - 11/28/16: SW 374 lbs - 12/14/16: CW 350 lbs.

Same here... I never saw the post from the newbie, this post wasn't about a newbies question. But rather about the OP observation of how a bugle if it was spelled correctly, would be on the diet plan. And then her following thought processes as she was unfamiliar with the snack food Bugles. It was hilarious until it was sidetracked by people saying it was rude and mean etc. I am thinking to myself, how in the world is this mean and rude? Then someone comes along and has to knock our building blocks over and link this thread to another thread. People If we can't laugh at the mundane and inane we create a generation of people that are requiring "safe spaces". Oh wait to late. The only safe space is the play pen at your Mama's, if you can't handle the real world, go back to that while those of us that have figured out how to survive in a "mean" world continue to get the joke about words and the hilarity that the lack of knowledge can cause. DS performed 11/28/16. SW/HW 380 lbs.

That is a fascinating tool! Thanks so much for sharing this! DS performed 11/28/16. SW/HW 380 lbs. What is kind of fun with that is to play with the percentage of weight loss and project where I'm going. I'm sitting around the 75-80% range with the way that I'm going.I know right!?!?! DS performed 11/28/16. SW/HW 380 lbs.

That is a fascinating tool! Thanks so much for sharing this! DS performed 11/28/16. SW/HW 380 lbs.

I wouldn't expect results so fast, your body is still recovering from the surgery, it is full of not only gas that was used during surgery to inflate the body cavity for the laproscopic surgery as well as your body's reactions to the shakes, your new stomach's possible reaction to lactose. And varied other reasons why you still might be bloated and artificially hide your weight loss. Besides you dont have anything else to do anyway except wait right? It will come... I hope. Lol. I keep telling myself that as well. We had our surgery the same day! DS performed 11/28/16. SW/HW 380 lbs.

I did. I had never had a major surgery before and just the risks associated with having surgery had me anxious. Also dealing with my failures on the pre surgery diet added to my anxiety that something would happen to prevent the surgery from occurring. It IS a huge deal. It IS a huge decision. It is NOT to be taken lately. So if you didn't have worries and emotional upheaval over it, I would worry about your knowledge on the subject. But I had to keep telling myself, I have tried so many times on my own. 10 years I told myself change the way eat now on your own so you can enjoy that occasional piece of cheesecake, because with WLS, you won't get to. 10 years I watch the scales go down and up, each time regaining more weight than I had lost. Each time an injury would sideline my workouts, all that hard work lost because of my inability against my addiction to food. Then my husband and I were thinking of buying our first home. I realized why, based on my health and my mother's time line of obesity, I would be dead in about 15 years. Then I realized I would never get to use what little savings for retirement I had accumulated. Then a light bulb flashed. You didn't just have the option to use your savings for a down payment, but it could be used for medical bills. Suddenly something that would take years to save for since my employer again refused to cover it was a slight glimmer of hope. I began to pursue that lead. When it still looked hopeful.. I began to research hard on the choices available, the stats, the long term stats, compared to other non surgical programs. And finally make a decision to use money I might have used for my first home and instead give myself a fighting chance. And then I wondered why I was so anxious and emotional? Lol. Somehow I think we all go thru this process. It is normal and expected. And the fact that your probably also detoxing your body on the pre surgery diet just adds to the emotional upheaval. I knew I wouldn't get a lot of rest in the hospital, do I made sure the two days previous to surgery, last weekend, I slept alot. Trying to keep from becoming over anxious. So in a nutshell... yes. But we don't live in a nutshell. We live anxiety riddled lives already with a huge decision that we have thoroughly vetted about to come to fruition. So yeah, I would say it's to be expected. ???? DS performed 11/28/16. SW/HW 380 lbs.

@racefightforitit told me this in response to feeling in a fog and low grade irritating headaches: @@"Miss Impala" I'm having the same issues (started last Wed 12/1 for VSG surgery 12/21) my NUT said it is withdraw from the gluten and sugar-that is why the fog. Said "after surgery you will be surprised that you felt so bad all the time but didn't realize because was your normal". I hope so! DS performed 11/28/16. SW/HW 380 lbs.

That is what my PCP said as well. This was my first major surgery, so I was getting discouraged. That is great news! Thank you! DS performed 11/28/16. SW/HW 380 lbs.

Hmm, maybe I would have been quite too if I had seen some of the behaviors of people described in this thread. But I already knew and saw people's reactions to other Co workers who had had the surgery almost 20 years ago and more recent. It appeared to be more positive than the behavior of others described in this thread. So sad... and makes me open my eyes to how and what I say. I am a recovering critical person. I hate that about myself and strive my best to keep myself out of the gutter. Lol. One of the nurses said Happy Birthday to me while recovering in the hospital, I looked at her puzzled, she said, you have a new birth date! And I do! I was feeling pretty miserable as a respiratory thing that had started to rear its head before surgery had become worse and I was stuck on oxygen and no one could tell me why. Still haven't been able to. But they're right... amazing how much some one else's words can affect another. DS performed 11/28/16. SW/HW 380 lbs.

Will that is reassurring. Still sounds like an awful lot. Hope it finishes soon! Good luck! DS performed 11/28/16. SW/HW 380 lbs.

@@Miss Impala I'm having the same issues (started last Wed 12/1 for VSG surgery 12/21) my NUT said it is withdraw from the gluten and sugar-that is why the fog. Said "after surgery you will be surprised that you felt so bad all the time but didn't realize because was your normal". I hope so! Sent from my iPhone using the BariatricPal App Lord I hope they are right! DS performed 11/28/16. SW/HW 380 lbs.

I was. And a constant low grade headache. I had already weaned myself off of caffeine, so it wasn't related to that. I was far from perfect though. I would be on the wagon and then fall off, get back on and fall off until 4 days prior to 11-28-16. Then I cracked down. But yes, I was very cranky, emotional and in a fog. DS performed 11/28/16. SW/HW 380 lbs.

From a medical standpoint, that sounds incredible! I have heard of drainage, but not by that much! That sounds life a horrible experience. Has the Dr offered up any reason as to such severe drainage? DS performed 11/28/16. SW/HW 380 lbs.

Oh Thank God! 7 days out after surgery and I am starting to panic! DS performed 11/28/16. SW/HW 380 lbs.

I had my DS on Monday afternoon, I haven't lost any weight, but I can tell already that the denseness of my fat is becoming less. It us starting to become more jiggly. My stomach is still huge, but just the IV's and trauma from the surgery will cause swelling and weight retention. DS performed 11/28/16. SW/HW 380 lbs.

Unfortunately, anesthesia, the trauma of the surgery, the pressure on your lungs and age can all be factors. I just had my surgery 4 days ago and am home on oxygen as my stats won't stay up on their own. Hopefully I will get better as my PC has said will happen, but it can be something one has to deal with after any surgery due to the anesthesia and pain meds affecting your lungs. Sent from my SM-N900T using the BariatricPal App