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Omg just when I thought this thread couldn't get any worse!!! Sent from my SM-G930T using the BariatricPal App

@@Alex Brecher
Can this thread be moved to Gastric Sleeve Surgery Complications Support Group ?
I think it belongs there.Thank you.

Oh please did you seriously just turn this thread into a support trump opportunity? Get a clue and stop using a Bariatric forum for your political agenda, it's so out of context not to mention it's not even close to being the right place for that post. You just made a nonsense thread into a political bs thread not even worthy of this forum anymore, Alex Brecher please shut this thread down.

Omg I have heard it all now.
Headline-
" How Hilary and Trump Will Screw Up your Bariatric Surgery- Full Story on the Evening News"
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I don't like EITHER candidate, but I can tell you with no inkling of doubt, if that man spoke "the truth" yesterday, he'll surely say he was simply "misunderstood" today. He can't keep his own story straight to save his life.
What a joke.

Cape Crooner
The NHS is not the UK government, and your experience of having been in a NHS facility once does not give you the experience of it that you would need to have a considered opinion. You have taken this thread out of context for your own political agenda and that is not cool.
Jo

Fabulous. You made 23 pages of internet hot mess worth it.

Agreed. This belongs on the hypochondriac and martyr board. I'm sure there are better words. But you get the idea.
Please use this as a complaint thread and forget you heard anything about the sleeve. The only thing you should be aware of here is that this is not a sleeve related thread.
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SW: 245.7 on 6.1.16
CW: 199.4 on 8.22.16

I'm not trying to be cruel, but if your stats are accurate then you are more than overweight, you're still obese. I'm not judging, I'm obese too, but you need to remember the facts. Your obesity is likely contributing to your ongoing issues.
For someone who wants to raise awareness you certainly seem to enjoy telling people to stop reading/posting on this thread. We are all sorry you're going though so much pain and regret. I hope you find a good counselor who can help you work through some of this.

And no, no you really didn't. I know who I am and that I made absolutely the best decisions FOR ME. Your possible judgment has absolutely no bearing on my "psyche", I promise you.
That said, by your logic, clearly those who have taken a little deeper look at your story have "struck a nerve" in yours...

I think you're the only one who needs to stop posting in these threads. I understand your struggle but even the most helpful of information presented to you and your situation you continue to be unreceptive, condescending, and belittling to whomever it may be. I truly wish you the best and I strongly urge you to seek professional mental health counseling to help you through this life changing surgical intervention that you already have made up in your mind you will always regret.
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I was actually standing up for YOU. And thank you, but I'll read and post where I please.

And my point is proved!
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Yes, the backstory is right there for everyone who takes the time to look through your old posts and find it. I am interested in everyone's stories and health, but you are not "raising awareness". You're giving 1/2 of a story that starts with you being 95% bedridden with MANY other problems and unable to lose weight by any other means and blaming all these problems on your surgery. You seem to have an excuse for everything as well as a snarky reply that you then pretend is the other person's problem. I suppose misery loves to spread misery (even though you go on and on about how not miserable you are, it's clear to anyone who reads your posts that you are a very unhappy person). I truly hope someday you become more content.
Good luck.

@@ShelterDog64
How dare you be logical. Stop.

@@silverwhitemoon You said: *Exactly. I was under the impression that I would be able to eat anything - just in smaller amounts. That really isn't the case. I feel like I have set myself up for having digestive problems for the rest of my life. Also, I can't ever just eat. I have to worry about eating too fast, not chewing enough, whether the food I am going to eat will digest properly or whether it will contribute to the reflux that I now have after VSG that I didn't have before. I am two months out and regret doing this to myself. *
Your sidebar says that you joined this group 10 years ago, and had surgery this June. I can't see how, since you had 10 years to research, you could possibly have held this impression about eating anything you want? I KNEW going in to this that I'd likely have foods I'd never eat again. That I can't 'just eat'. That reflux was a very real possibility of the surgery. The more I see 'regret' stories like this, the more I wonder if there should be a test of some sort that people have to take and pass before they're allowed to have a surgery like this. What on earth did you THINK having 3/4 of your stomach removed was going to do to you? Just make you full faster?
What were your expectations, seriously?

@@silverwhitemoon You are 2 months post-op but already know you will have reflux forever? Hmmm...too bad you didn't have that future prediction ability prior to surgery!

At the end of the day Gina doesn't want any advice or help from us. I tried weeks ago to give advice but she just becomes aggressive/ defensive and downright rude. Not being funny Gina but you need some serious help. Mentally. You need some counselling. You think I'm on the side of the NHS but in one of my first posts I told you to take it further. Your trust pays millions every year in insurance policies for people who try and sue. Get a solicitor if you think it's the fault of the hospital. Get a second opinion. Go to a different hospital. Do anything you can but PLEASE STOP having a go at people who are only trying to help!!!
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And HERE you state you already had IBS and severe bowel problems pre-op?
Post op you blamed the sleeve?
Now it's possible CDif?
Color me confused.

Well, now. Isn't that interesting? If one was already 95% bed ridden and in such shoddy health, why would one bla... Oh. Never mind.

Interesting. I've been following this now very long thread because I'm pre op and want to hear all the perspectives. I looked back and found the post in question and you're right, this is the post.
GinaCampbellJunior Guru
Posts: 344 Joined: May 2016 Gender: Female Location: ENGLAND Surgery: Gastric Sleeve Surgery Date: May 2016 Height: 5 feet 2 inches Starting Weight: 266 lbs Weight Lost: 76 lbs Current Weight: 190 lbs Goal Weight: 125 lbs BMI: 34.7 @Mention Posted May 28, 2016 - 6:36 AM
#9My daughter thinks that I have not given conventional dieting enough of a chance. She feels that I could lose weight normally if I tried harder. I explained that I am addicted to food, cannot stop overeating and that my disability prevents me from exercising. I now am 95% bedbound. She just sees this surgery as a shortcut to weightloss. Also she feels that after surgery that I will simply overeat again so it won't be successful. No, she is not obese.
Thank you all for being so supportive, it really helps.
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Gina, it sounds like you had a LOT of health problems before the surgery and now you're trying to scare others away with your horror story but you're not giving the full picture. If you're truly trying to "inform the public", you should include the backstory as well.

Woah Nelly! I wasn't belittling your experience nor was I investigating against you. I was simply curious if your low level of basic information was common in your area or simply a fault of your practice. If it was common, I'd certainly agree that more awareness is necessary but I see no evidence that it is.
Clearly we will have to agree to disagree. I see SO MANY complaints of food aversion, nauseousness, Water poop, gall bladder issues (all of which I had myself except the GB, that was already out), it's boggling that someone else didn't see it, especially with four years of extensive research.
I'm glad to hear you are no longer blaming your poo issues on the sleeve, just as I really couldn't blame my c-diff on my brain tumor. That's a risk of any surgery.
I'll chalk up your little personal jabs at me as a product of your frustration. We've always been civil, you and I, or so I thought.
And yes, as you spread awareness, others will spread positivity. You are clearly in the minority in your struggles/lack of pre-surgical awareness. That doesn't make them unimportant by any means, but it does help to pinpoint where the lack of education is originating.
My sleeve saved the quality of my life and it's a risk that I was willing to take. Some of the complaints you have are huge benefits to others. (I love my food aversion! I love my dumping, too, to be quite honest. It keeps me on track.) So again, every where you spread "awareness", expect others to do the same. It's not meant to offend you, but to show the other side. Fortunately the side where the majority of us stand. It's not an us vs them. It's a total picture.
As always, I wish you well.

Exactly. Even though most of us just can't resist trying to point out reality to someone so clearly in denial (because we DO want them to have hope) it's also about people who are pre op like me finding some answers about this dreadful situation because we are looking for ALL the facts. I'm glad I found the pre op backstory so I know what caused these problems.
Maybe this will help people who are already seriously ill realize that the surgery won't fix everything.

Tries to understand how having a food addiction and having no issues with food can be congruent.... Oh wait they can't....
Gina I'm sorry you are frustrated, sick, sad, angry and all the rest...
But the first step is being honest with yourself. You have said a number of contradictory things about yourself and your journey. You are placing blame because you can't cope with the idea you played a role in your situation.
Your lashing out at others while understandable is not acceptable
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I absolutely agree with you although I wouldn't dare diagnose another's mental wellness on the internet. Well, at least, not out loud.
You are absolutely right about a lot of your points and my continued discussion here is not at all for the benefit of the OP, but for the benefit of those who are reading, researching and deciding.
It became clear that the "lack of knowledge" complained about initially is easily discovered with a few clicks around the internet. The further damage/debacles that developed were not fully explained until further discussion was provoked. Without that further discussion, many reading could have easily come to the conclusion that this potentially life saving surgery does not come without MANY potential and **hidden** risks. Now that we know the backstory and the medical condition of the OP pre-op, it's quite apparent that her case is highly unlikely to repeat itself. I still find it puzzling that she has no desire to pursue this romper room of a surgery team legally but insists on only "raising awareness" on a message board, one that she herself did little to no research on before her procedure.
This story has taken on so many twists and turns, one almost needs a road map to follow it. I think the commentary has certainly cleared up what could have been huge misconceptions about the sleeve quite nicely if one has the patience to read it all.