Fredbear

I have a simple solution. Create a PRIVATE vets forum where people who have a few years experience can post without having to worry about a simple sentence being misconstrued.

Sometimes vets are snarky, but most of the time it is just that people are so quick to be offended, so quick to feel "yelled at" when that isn't the intention. I don't read the forums as much as I used to; but most of the nastiest insults and name calling I have read have been written by the "victims". I get it that WLS an emotional topic, a huge life changing experience, lots of ups and downs and I try to give people the benefit of the doubt, too bad that isn't reprocipicated.

Amen. @@Alex Brecher -- please?

Good idea! I will work on putting something together.

This site has too many forums as it is. The reason people post in the wrong forums here is there are a bewildering array of (mostly inactive) forums.

You need fewer forums, not more.

"When all is said and done, usually more has been said than done. "

Many thanks to Lipstick for indicating how to block users!

Just think how awful it's going to get when the hand-held, safe-zone, helicopter-parented, everyone-gets-a-trophy-just-for-showing-up kids start showing up demanding "support" from the forum.

Oh wait, I've already seen posts like that here... shucks.

"When all is said and done, usually more has been said than done. "

Honestly, they probably don't care. They have no incentive to allow it, since it would mean you'll have surgery sooner. They want you on the six month plan because they know a certain percentage of patients will give up.

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haolenate: shaved...yuck....at least you will still be a Bear...us hair less "chubs", not sure where I will fit after I get to my goal, but not too worried about it, like the Bear mentality better than the rest....more accepting.

Don't count on it... other than a few of my very closest friends, I fully expect to be ostracized and excluded from the bear community once I've lost enough weight. I've already seen people "fall out" (or get forced out) when it became known they had surgery. Certainly some of that is due to self-selection - when a guy no longer feels he belongs in the group, he may choose to leave - but that's clearly only part of it.

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People who call and don't leave voicemail.

Now my voicemail message says, "I go through my incoming calls regularly, and if I see your number twice and there's no voicemail, I'm simply going to blacklist your number. You have been warned."

The best part is I've blocked so many numbers that I rarely get any spam calls.

You seem to be under the delusion that you can rant about something in a vacuum... we have the ability to rant right back.

If you didn't care, why did you bother to respond?

"When all is said and done, usually more has been said than done. "

Having been a member of many forums on a diverse array of subjects, I would say that the the people who "ruin" forums are the Thought Police who try to force people to post things their way, like the OP.

"If you don't have anything nice to say, keep it to yourself" is simply code for "if I don't like what you have to say, I'm going to deny you the ability to say it."

We're all adults here; Pollyanna syndrome isn't attractive nor is it warranted.

"When all is said and done, usually more has been said than done. "

This new "everyone deserves a trophy" BS... which seems to have created a generation of people whining and complaining accusing others of being "hateful" or "judgmental" when the opinion/advice given is not exactly what they wanted to hear - or not wrapped up in a pretty bow!!! WTF people - how thin is your damn skin!!!??? If you don't want opinions then don't fricken ask!!! This is not group counseling!!!

I would go further and say that most people on this journey should be in group counseling. And a high percentage should also be in individual counseling as well.

My surgeon's facility offers group sessions twice a month and I plan on attending all of them until surgery... and continuing post-op as well.

"When all is said and done, usually more has been said than done. "

what is a pram?

A baby carriage. They call it a pram in the UK.

Short for "parambulator".

There is not even enough space for me to write all of my rants but my biggest one right now is of people that don't proofread before posting something! READ it folks...if it doesn't make sense rewrite it and learn the difference between to, too and two as well as their and there!!

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Or, totally apropos to this forum: lose and loose (or losing and loosing).

These are first or second grade words, folks. Are you really okay with 6- and 7-year old children having better English skills than you?

"When all is said and done, usually more has been said than done. "

That is great advice. Where did you squirrel away a decent lawyer? Those are like... shockingly rare

The OP sounds great, and then the last sentence is about revenge. Kind of negates the whole 'nice guy' thing, don't you think?

Kind of like going on and on about how pious and holy someone is and ending with, "and he has the best recipe for grilled babies."

"When all is said and done, usually more has been said than done. "

Dieticians are to Nutritionists as Dentists are to Toothologists.

"When all is said and done, usually more has been said than done. "

There is a substantial percentage of the population who absolutely refuse to listen to anything said to them.

I see it everyday. I saw it in my bariatric introduction seminar... the surgeon says, "Now, after the surgery, your Protein goal is X per day." And literally two minutes later, a hand goes up in the (very small) audience, and their question is "Is there a Protein goal each day after surgery?"

These are the people who refuse to listen to anything unless you clasp their hands in yours, look them in the eyes and repeat everything twenty times and say prettyprettyprettyplease and compliment them on their hair.

And they'll still be clueless even after you do that.

If by some miracle they remember any bit of it, they'll still most likely not remember who told them, or may become convinced that they made the determination themselves.

Average people are still pretty stupid.

"When all is said and done, usually more has been said than done. "

Comedy option: Lean towards them, gently touch their hand, and in a knowing, old-wives-tale voice, say "whole grains." And then nod and smile and say it again. "Whole. Grains."

"When all is said and done, usually more has been said than done. "

And then walk away.

For those with apnea, have you learned to adjust to sleeping with the mask? Have the benefits of the machine outweighed the mask? Were you able to follow the guidelines of sleeping with the machine 30 days prior to surgery and during your hospital stay?

I can tell you, as someone who's had a CPAP since 2002, that the benefit definitely does outweigh the mask. My wife calls it our "little marriage saver".

You'll get used to it. You would not believe how much better you have it starting now than I did in 2002. My machine sounded like Darth Vader in a TIE fighter.

Some tips I have...

Don't use the Ramp function. Makes me feel like I'm going to choke.

Use the humidifier.

Make sure you have plenty of filters and change them regularly.

Get a new nasal pillow whenever insurance covers it. I was really bad about it for a while and my nose hated me for it.

Listen to this man! These are all excellent tips, and I follow every one of them.

"When all is said and done, usually more has been said than done. "

*shrug* I'm not defending anyone, and it doesn't really matter what the jerk said. But if you're going to ignore the fact that her gut reaction to adversity is to assault someone, I don't really have much to say. Such a reaction simply shows a lack of adult coping ability, and it's a bit alarming of the amount of enabling here.

But, whatever. No point in reading any further... the defensive hackles are raised and no real discussion can happen.

Bye, Felicia!

"When all is said and done, usually more has been said than done. "

At the lectures I've been to, surgeons have indicated that their general goal is to get you to Overweight, or straddling the Overweight/Healthy BMI of 25.

Their argument is that statistically, Overweight people live longer than people with an underweight or healthy BMI. (I don't have the study names, but I do remember that making headlines a while back)

"When all is said and done, usually more has been said than done. "

G'day @@Fredbear

"When all is said and done... Shhhhhhhh..."

You're being waaaay too serious mate...

Did you skip your nap this afternoon or something?

Quitting caffeine.

"When all is said and done, usually more has been said than done. "

Assault is a perfectly acceptable response to an unkind word in these forums? How childish.

"When all is said and done, usually more has been said than done. "

Are you taking what we say as literal?

I've found that people who make irrational statements tend to be irrational. And irrational people tend to behave irrationally as well.

"When all is said and done, usually more has been said than done. "

Assault is a perfectly acceptable response to an unkind word in these forums? How childish.

"When all is said and done, usually more has been said than done. "

You can also adjust the ramp. The pressure of air can start out low until you're asleep.

I've always hated the ramp. First thing I turned off when I got the latest machine.

I love my CPAP, I put it on and I'm out in five minutes for a full eight hours.

I've never understood the compulsion to "celebrate" birthdays, but really in this case it sounds like are pouting because your family couldn't read your mind.

Life's a lot simpler and less drama-filled when you actually communicate instead of demanding that everyone read your mind and throw tantrums when they can't. (How many marriages would that save?)

"When all is said and done, usually more has been said than done. "

Other than my spouse (who will probably also have surgery eventually), the only people I plan on telling are my in-laws (because of my spouse) and my sister (who is currently enjoying her RNY).

Oh, and my sister will tell my mother, because my sister always tattles on me.

No one else is to know initially... though I will probably tell my four closest friends, since I know they'll be supportive. I definitely have friends I won't tell, simply because they are sabotaging type... "Look, I bought you expensive chocolate!" (even though I know you're on a strict diet!)

"When all is said and done, usually more has been said than done. "