Fredbear

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"When all is said and done, usually more has been said than done. "

Even though your insurance may not require a referral, I would recommend discuss this with your PCP and getting their recommendation, mostly because I assume that your PCP is in your insurance network, and therefore they would be able to direct you to a bariatric specialist who is also in-network.

Your other questions are really jumping the gun; don't worry about the details until you have a surgeon and have done an orientation, spoken with the surgeon directly, seen their nutritionist, etc., etc., etc.

"When all is said and done, usually more has been said than done. "

It's been a process...

First I was pre-diabetic and given the "you need to test your BS, lose weight," etc. - and I went into denial for several years.

Then I was rejected for an operation because "your BS is not controlled." - and I grudgingly started meds... which made me gain even more weight (diabetic medications are evil that way).

After years of taking metformin, I get sent to an endocrinologist for additional meds, and eventually have to start self-injections (first Byetta, and eventually insulin). My A1C gets better for a while, and then worse.

Then I break my foot, spend 6 months in a boot, have surgery, and spend 3 more months in a boot. I get released from the boot (hurrah!) and realize I have to learn to walk all over again. During 3 months of physical therapy I end up spending a lot of money, both on the PT and having to buy my meds... so much that I end up meeting my healthcare deductible in the first three months of the year.

But the final straws:

1. While heading to our last exotic cruise, asking for a seat extender for the first time in my life, in First Class of all places.

2. While on the cruise with my spouse (who is also large), on a bus tour through a hot, sweaty climate, I finally snapped and said out loud, "You know I love you more than anything in the world... but dammit, I'm tired of being physically pressed up against you anytime we travel anywhere."

And so I decided to pursue WLS once we returned to the states. On month 3 of my (wasteful, pointless) 6 month insurance requirement. We have one trip planned later this year (right before my probable surgery), and dammit that will be the last time I'll have to deal with being pressed up against someone (anyone) because I'm just too damn fat to fit completely in the seat.

Thanks John, playing a wind instrument is much more taxing than simply breathing, but your comment does indeed give an idea of the effort that might be necessary.

"When all is said and done, usually more has been said than done. "

4 of my 5 friends who vape have ended up in the hospital with pleurisy in the past 6 months.

"When all is said and done, usually more has been said than done. "

Hi folks, are there any post-op musicians here (winds or strings)?

I'm most likely having surgery in November or December, and I'm wondering on how long I can expect to be out of commission.

Since I play winds, I'm particularly concerned about soreness in the diaphragm, the surgery's effect on stamina in the immediate post-op phase, and to a lesser extent, simply sitting up in a chair for long periods of time. I would rather let my contractors know that I'm not available for Xmas gigs than to suffer through two-hour performances, or worse, being unable to play at all.

Any thoughts from a fellow professional or any amateurs would be appreciated.

"When all is said and done, usually more has been said than done. "

File your FMLA paperwork; they cannot fire you.

"When all is said and done, usually more has been said than done. "

Leave now, or you risk botching your chance to lose the weight under his continued abuse.

You're better off alone than abused.

"When all is said and done, usually more has been said than done. "

BTW - what is Pate??

Paté is basically a finely minced meat (often liver), usually for the purpose of being soft and "spreadable".

It's basically like canned cat food.

"When all is said and done, usually more has been said than done. "

I'm doing my supervised diet through my PCP; she's in the same network as my surgeon.

This is an insurance requirement, not a medical one. She's more than happy to see me once a month for a 10 minute visit and ask the same questions each time, if that's what it takes to make this surgery happen.

"When all is said and done, usually more has been said than done. "

I also wondered how many other guys were having the sleeve done! I just told my wife today it seems like more women! I am still pre-op. I was 520 pounds at the start of my journey and have to get down to 450 before they will do surgery. I Have lost 48 pounds since April 4th. Hopefully have a surgery date within a few months!

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I have seen a few men at my support groups, but it is probably a 1:3 ratio (men to women)

...and the women do most of the yapping.

"When all is said and done, usually more has been said than done. "

Not sure why a Canadian would bother with traveling to Mexico and paying for the surgery... all the Canadians I know who have had the surgery had it in Canada, for free.

Ok... so i was reading though some posts... and i noticed something.

I saw the Protein drink that your surgeon has got you on and i had a quick look at the ingredients....

Could it possibly be that is what is causing your dizziness and tiredness.... i noticed that it has L-Tryptophan in it... and i know for a fact that it makes you tired and sleepy.... also, it concerns me that it is not a Protein isolate... so you wouldn't be absorbing the complete 18g of protein in it...

How much of that stuff are you having for each meal?

Can i make a suggestion that you call your surgeon and ask if you can change to a normal low carb protein isolate.... if he says yes, i would go out and buy some... that protein might be the issue...

Tryptophan is nowhere near as effective as it's played up to be. The reason people feel sleepy after a Thanksgiving turkey dinner has nothing to do with Tryptophan and everything to do with eating a full day's worth of calories (or more, for the dedicated fatties) in a single sitting.

"When all is said and done, usually more has been said than done. "

Just another symptom of the spread of reason- and fact-resistant humans. Dumbass "folk wisdom" and vaccine-deniers are making the country stupid(-er).

Perhaps we can create dummy forums and lure them to those instead? Like a "VSG and Essential Oils" forum? "VSG, One Weird Trick to lose weight faster," "VSG and GMOs," "VSG and Chemtrails".

"When all is said and done, usually more has been said than done. "

popcorn tends to be a "mindless" snack, so it's off my list as dangerous.

Actually, just about every snack that comes in a bag fits that description, really... chips, pretzels, popcorn, crackers... all bad ideas for people with food issues.

"When all is said and done, usually more has been said than done. "

My spouse is planning on pursuing a sleeve, but only after I am fully recovered.

"When all is said and done, usually more has been said than done. "

bummer! It may not have been meant to be done by this particular surgeon, find you another one. There are no coincidences.

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Nonsense, life is nothing but coincidences.

"When all is said and done, usually more has been said than done. "

You need a therapist before you even consider surgery.

"When all is said and done, usually more has been said than done. "

/wolfwhistle

I am keeping a (private) journal of the experience. At my psych evaluation I complained about finding very little information for men online and he suggested writing a book on that.

Who knows?

No interest in blogging/videos... that's straight up attention whoring these days.

"When all is said and done, usually more has been said than done. "

Depends on what my date actually turns out to be. If it's December, I'll take the rest of the year off.

"When all is said and done, usually more has been said than done. "

Sorry, just discovered this forum and responding to some of the topics. Not intending to be a necro :-)

(see, I told Alex there were too many forums!)

I don't mind the prayers, I just mind the passive aggressive mentions of them.

For some reason, I doubt they are sincere. If they are, why not just do it instead of telling everyone about it?

For the same reason Tim Tebow does his prayer schtick; it's "conspicuous piety," which is actually specifically spoken against in their book of lies. But they conveniently forget that (when it suits them), just like all the other bits they conveniently forget when it goes against what they want to do.

Actually, that's pretty good: "I completely disagree but I've found it's impossible to argue with someone's religious views so I think it's best I not say anything else."

"I completely disagree, but I've found that it's impossible to reason with someone completely bereft of intelligence or mental stability."

Anyone care to explain what all these religious types are doing on an atheist/agnostic board? It's pretty obnoxious.

People of faith are insecure narcissists and the fact that there are people who haven't bought the lie hook, line, and sinker causes them mental anguish and cognitive dissonance. They then disregard all the teachings they supposed believe in and attack those who dare to have minds of their own, because the insecurity makes them realize their beliefs are ridiculous.

As to the thread topic... when someone tells me that "they'll pray for me," my standard response is, "Thanks! I'll name one of my shits after you." When they protest, just tell them that it's only fair that you match their complete lack of effort or action with one of your own.