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And no weight loss when it comes to the upper body please. Dear body, please take it from the inner upper thighs.

... I'm going to get my revision. I scheduled everything today. Hiatoplastic, gastropexia and a change to RNY anastomosis. Dammit... I don't really want to do it...

I'm thinking about chia pudding - I can remember having tried something proteinchocolatechia a while ago. IIRC it was quite good.

These puddings look really ?.

Oven roasted vegetables. Slightly less gross looking on the picture.

Food can look pretty gross on pictures, lol. Like vegan Currywurst with red onions.

Looks good as well.

So does everyone else. Everyone who thinks that this is not happening... think again. Our own stories or "journeys" influence our thinking a great deal, even though we might not like to hear that. Sad thing is, that almost no one on this boards seems to believe that you don't always need to "try harder " or "eat less" . Also people don't seem to realize that "eating healthy" and "losing weight" are by far not the same thing. One can eat the unhealthiest diet on the planet and still lose weight if one is creating a calorie deficit. Again: see Twinkie Diet. Yes. That's why I won't comment on the rest of your post.

Well, pretty self-explaining.

Rice always fills me up like crazy. I'm going to take the rest to work tomorrow to eat cold.

Tofu curry with rice.

Ok, don't let husbands open up your rice cakes... they got stale because he left the package open when he ate some of them on Saturday and I didn't notice until tonight. *throws away rest* ?

Good guess.

So who wants to guess? ?

Well, partly. I use one of these cubes that dissolve in water (tom yum), soak the sea weed, throw everything together in a bowl and microwave it. Let sit and heat up again. I add a bit of palm sugar and coconut milk. Sometimes a bit of additional salt.

Soup with mie noodles, tofu, sea weed and shiitake mushrooms.

So what exactly is that difference between calories? I guess people are talking about SDA/TEF when they say "calories are not the sam". But how much exactly does e. g. the TEF of protein really matter in the end when you're eating this very low calorie diet that is so popular in the WLS community? Especially when you look at the fact that 1 kg of body fat contains approximately 7500 kcal. And why not keep a fine tuning bullet like this until later in your back pocket when weight loss slows down significantly or stops altogether?

I didn't have one as well. It depends on liver size.

No, it's like going to an AA meeting, seeking support and feeling completely out of place because a lot of people there are struggling with abstinence, yet the possibility that controlled drinking could actually be an alternative is denied with the strongest passion while everyone there is shouting at each other "TRY HARDER!!!!!1" without getting anywhere long term in the end.

Yes, you're right. Sorry, threads like this make me royally pissed sometimes. True as well. The problem is: what's questionable or not is too often in the eyes of the beholder. That personal point of view is shaped by your own experiences, current trends/hypes and numerous other things. Some years ago people were all over the place with "low fat" and scolded others when they dared to admit to eating fatty foods. Today people are scolded when they're eating "carbs". I never counted calories or carbs, my diet is absolute **** by BP standards, my exercise level dropped significantly (luckily so did my appetite though) because of several injuries first and then second due to a significant increase in workload and yet my BMI is 23.something, so I absolutely can't relate to the eat-as-little-as-possible-and-protein-only-while-moving-as-much-as-possible crowd. So that's the bubble I am in and this is also what's shaping my opinion on certain things. Yes, I know people want to "get it over with" as soon as possible (even though one of the other BP mantras is "it's a marathon not a sprint) but I have serious doubts that people do themselves any good by crash dieting after WLS. There are too many people struggling less than a year out already to not question this approach at least once in a while. And yes, I think I should stay out of threads like these because what I have to say (as one of the precious "vets" people always want advice from, mind you, lol) is not what people want to hear anyway. *shrug*

There are also some very loud-mouthed and self-righteous n00bs on here who think they have it all figured out a few weeks or months post-op. True. And I'm not going to sugar coat the fact that it's unreasonable to deal out the usual standard advice fueled by anticarb-hysteria before having gathered any information at all. Since two of the mantras of BP are "follow your plan" and "listen to your team/nut" this is kind of understandable.

It's not very likely that you "stretched" your sleeve. You got used to bigger portions by "training" so to say. Once you start eating smaller amounts again your body gets used to the smaller portions again. You might want to check out Dr. Weiner's video on growing portion sizes with time and that sleeves usually don't stretch. Or at least not that easy.

I count at least two people on this thread who seem to like it.

There were definitely time spans like this, yes. However, I always attributed it to being stressed and tired from work.

Also respectfully, if you're not going over your TDEE a day even though you're consuming sugary drinks, you're still going to lose weight. 300 kcal of sugary drink + 500 kcal of solid food = still no more than 800 kcal - > weight loss Simple equation. Shouldn't be that hard to comprehend. Twinkie diet anyone?