Cape Crooner

I feel like that too. I lost all my weight in 2006, then had a Tummy Tuck. I looked great. Then I gained it all back. So I have really beat myself up about abusing food. I live alone now so I can choose what food is in the house. That makes a big difference. Not having to buy food or cook food that is bad for me. I have every chance of success at losing the weight and maintaining the weight loss this time.

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Gina - This is all the proof you need that the time is NOW for a VSG. You went farther that most of us to "do it on your own" and you proved what ALL the experts know (as opposed to you lost in space daughter), severely obese people cannot do it on there own PERIOD.

I will also tell you that this journey will make you stronger and more self confident than you can imagine. It may not happen for a while, but one day your daughter will know she was wrong (even if she doesn't say it to you)!

I didn't care for Premier Protein's taste. I liked Pure Protein and Atkins.

Keep in mind this is ALL part of the journey. The self imposed food denial that happens for the first 2-4 months is an important learning stage that will help you succeed in maintenance.

You must slay all of your old food demons. Living for a month on food that you can't stomach will help you kill those demons.

Time is important - savor the journey...

Why does your daughter want you to stay obese and die decades early? That's the real question...

Is your daughter obese too?

OK, counter-argument coming at you here. Get ready for some sarcasm -- I just don't have time to edit it out this morning.

You're getting married in 3 months, so you can justify splurging lots of times between now and then. Showers, luncheons, nights out with the girls -- it's all an opportunity to eat / drink "just this one last time." Right?

And then, of course, there's the week before the wedding. All those preparations. All those out-of-town guests. And then the big night! And then comes the honeymoon, probably at an all-inclusive resort. All of these are "once in a lifetime" experiences, right?

Then comes the stress of post-honeymoon life -- young married life is great, but it has ups and downs and other first-time-evers, not all of which are going to be happily-ever-afters. Imma guess stress-eating might've played a role in your pre-op life. Right?

You get my drift. Where's your line in the sand? If you don't draw it somewhere you can never stop crossing it.

I tend to agree with Ann in general, but without knowing you, I can't be sure.

What was your arch nemesis that led you to obesity? Your success will depend on slaying that dragon. In my case, I OD'd on the low carb lifestyle. I'd go months without eating as much as a cracker, but order macadamia nuts in 4 lb bags from Hawaii.

Now I eat limited carbs and avoid high calorie foods - it works for me.

What I'm getting at is, what role did cake or sweets play in your demise. If they were your downfall, avoid them like the plague until you hit your goal and go into maintenance. You'll need that 6-18 month period to develop new habits.

Of course if your downfall was nuts, eat some cake!

Okay, two new ones...

Q: How much did spend on the new wardrobe - it must have been a fortune.

A: Not really, I just had my old clothes taken in (with a screw you smile).

Q: What did you lose 25-30 pounds (I lost almost 100).

Old A: No, more than that ( which always led to - How much?

New A: Yeah, something like that (with another screw you smile).

I'm growing very irritated with the same people who won't leave it alone and are totally obsessed with making stupid comments!

I do think that Carbonic Acid should be avoided while the skin in your stomach is growing around the staples. Acid and metal don't mix well. That said, our daily antacid should protect us from harm after 6 weeks...

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It's at rest in my mind. I will drink less than a can of seltzer or sugar free soda occasionally and stop when I feel the restriction - like everything else that goes in my mouth!

I don't believe these photos are real...

Decaf is also a good bridge strategy

After 4 months on maintenance, I'm actually starting to believe that I may have a normal weight for the rest of my life.

I have 4 friends who all lost a lot of weight - 40 to 90 pounds in the last 2 years without WLS and I'm seeing all of them put it all back on.

I think to myself "how sad and thank God that I discovered the WLS Journey"...

I have no idea, but at 8 months out, I'm hitting restriction after 6-8 ounces of solid food. This is exactly what I wanted.

I prepared a document and gave the WLS team both soft and hard copies. I wrote it in the third person, so it read like a doctor or dietician had written it.

I had a written report from my PCP going back 7 years that diagnosed me as obese and prescribed a low fat diet.

I documented all the various diets I had been on. I had a 9 month prescription for Qysima and 4 months of testosterone injections. I also included 4 months of reports from my Fitbit demonstrating that I had exercised regularly.

I had no medically supervised diet and got approved in 5 days. I also went on the pre opt diet immediately after the weigh in and impressed the WLS team with my weight loss discipline.

Good luck, it's difficult, but not impossible. Once you get rolling it's like a snowball going down hill and it's over before you know it!

There is a lot of differing prescriptions for pre opt dieting. Once I mentally committed to the process, I went "all in" and started at 1500 calories a day the morning after my orientation and weigh-in. I also stopped coffee, soda, and booze. I did that for 6 weeks and dropped to 1000 calories for the week before surgery with more liquids (but not all).

I drank a lot of Water and crystal lite. I took Tylenol if I got a headache, but I didn't have a lot.

The results were great. I was down 30 lbs before surgery (1/3rd of my goal) and my surgery was a total breeze (pain free, in and out in less than 55 minutes, driving without pain killers in 3 days).

I'm speculating, but I think the more abdominal weight we lose pre opt, the more space the surgeons have to work with. This means less trauma and firmer tissue to stitch up.

By the way, all that pre opt dieting made my post opt quite easy. I was back to normal foods in 6 weeks and hit my weight loss goal 5 months after surgery.

I'd look at it as a marathon and the more miles you cover early, the sooner the race will be over and you'll be the "new you".

Good luck!

Crystal light and alternatives is my saviour!! so many different flavours - I've successfully not had anything carbonated for night on 4 years now..you can do it too.

Second Crystal Lite. Most are too sweet, but they have one that as Watermelon, strawberry, and Orange that is quite good!

I'm done with all my pre-reqs but don't have a surgery date yet and I haven't told a soul. Just you guys on here. I still haven't decided if I am going to tell my mother and siblings. In an older thread on the same topic a poster gave me this advice: "Wait until you have a surgery date and are on the pre-surgery diet before you decide whether or not to tell anyone." So that's my plan for now.

I will say I am leaning towards flat out lying too!

Unfortunately, one of the 6 people I told was my 93 year old mother who I later discovered has gotten too old (senile) to keep a secret.

Unfortunately, by the time I discovered she was babbling about my most guarded secret to anyone who'd listen, I had already lied to most of closest friends.

Needless to say, I wish I had never told her!

There are some interesting takes on this topic as always. I say if diet soda or any food for that matter is like a drug to you or is a gateway to other bad habits then do not indulge.

I mean you have to ask yourself if you can sip and be fine or if you are Jonesing for a long gulp. Can you go several days or weeks without it being on your mind 24/7.

Before I even considered surgery, I was not eating rice, bread, Pasta, potatoes, and tons of other things and people, of course thought I was crazy then, well they still think I am crazy now as I still do not eat these things. But I do drink diet soda, and having one or two sips here and there doesn't really drive me to drink more, or cause me to crave anything else. I am not drinking enough to fill my stomach, so the likelihood of stretching is probably slim.

There are certain instructions which are strictly do and don't do, some of these are because of the nutritionist's and doctors' past experience with other patients. And it is important that we know that this has caused other patients problems in the past.

Please share a few of those "tons of studies" on soda and sleeve stretching - I'd love to read them.!

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Yes, I must have had a brain fart from drinking too much soda!

There are some interesting takes on this topic as always. I say if diet soda or any food for that matter is like a drug to you or is a gateway to other bad habits then do not indulge.

I mean you have to ask yourself if you can sip and be fine or if you are Jonesing for a long gulp. Can you go several days or weeks without it being on your mind 24/7.

Before I even considered surgery, I was not eating rice, bread, Pasta, potatoes, and tons of other things and people, of course thought I was crazy then, well they still think I am crazy now as I still do not eat these things. But I do drink diet soda, and having one or two sips here and there doesn't really drive me to drink more, or cause me to crave anything else. I am not drinking enough to fill my stomach, so the likelihood of stretching is probably slim.

There are certain instructions which are strictly do and don't do, some of these are because of the nutritionist's and doctors' past experience with other patients. And it is important that we know that this has caused other patients problems in the past.

Please share a few of those "tons of studies" on soda and sleeve stretching - I'd love to read them.!

I'm 8 months out and I've been maintaining for 3 months. I just returned to my summer home where most friends last saw me about 100 lbs heavier. My friends are fine and then there are the "so-called friends", who may or may not be so sincere.

Anyway, I thought it might be nice to have a thread of great one-liners we use to (politely) shut down unwanted comments and questions.

I'll start with:

Q: How did you loose the weight (I'm keeping my WLS private)?
A: I did exactly what my doctor told me to do...

Q: Seriously, did you excercise, cut out carbs, count calories?
A: Yes, have you had a serious discussion with YOUR DOCTOR about losing weight?
A: Have you ever tried doing exactly what they told you to do?

Q: Is that on your diet? (From a so-called friend peering over my plate as I try to eat my meal)
A: Well actually, my doctor thinks I've lost too much weight and wants me to add on a few pounds
A: What are you having to eat?

Q: You must have spent a fortune on new clothes?
A: Not so much, now that I'm a normal size, I can take advantage of sales.
A: I did enjoy donating my old clothes to charity...

Anyone else?

I had a girls weekend and sipped on a daiquiri, doc approved of course. It lasted all day because I took my sweet time. No problems here. Other that that I'm on my grind working to get down but I plan on having a nice drink in moderation ever now and then. Btw... lost two pounds that weekend!!!

As @@Dub says, it's all about moderation during drinking and remediation in the days after.

I only drink sugar free drinks that are all around 100 calories. If I'm in a situation where I'm drinking for a long period of time (all day on a boat, followed by dinner with friends), I might get to 500 calories of alcohol on such a day. This might get me up to 2,000 total that day, which is more than normal, but will not break my diet.

When I see it show up on the scale, I go back to my post opt diet and get back under goal in a day or two (remediation).

That said, if you think you've been a food addict or may have alcoholic tendencies, I'd steer clear.

Btw, unlike most of the women here, I don't find it hits me any harder than it did when I was on a low carb diet back in the day.

If all you have in your stomach is Protein and veggies, you will feel the booze faster.

I think it's interesting that people are looking for proof that is DOESN'T stretch your sleeve/pouch as opposed to proof that it DOES? Isn't that a bit backwards? I can't find any articles that prove Water doesn't stretch my sleeve/pouch, or that cottage cheese doesn't, etc, etc. but nobody seems to be avoiding those things.

Just an observation. If someone tells me putting orange juice on my feet makes them smell better I don't generally go looking for articles that prove orange juice does not make my feet smell better, and in the absence of those articles assume it to be true.

Not looking for a fight, just think it's an odd way of approaching research.

On the contrary if someone said that orange juice made my feet smell better I would look for any evidence that corroborated that statement either falsely or truthfully. What I would like is actual evidence on the long term effects of diet soda consumption in any quantities on the sleeve. In the absence of that my alternative is to either soak my feet in orange juice as failure to do so could result in stinky feet while doing so could result in sticky but better smelling feet.

LOL indeed this line of think i.e. weighing the upside vs the downside of a behavior has led to some very strange things. Think of the all the strange detox drinks that people drink on the basis it may make the younger, healthy, anti aging etc. Large parts of the beauty industry and indeed the diet industry are predicated on the fact they can make a dubious claim back by nothing more than observational study and the suckers start lining up with their cash. It harkens back to the days of snake oil merchants just tell folks what they want to hear and they will do the believing all on their own.

I've looked and I can't find any. I ask my surgeon and she said no.

The former paramedic who hung about the operating room selling staples isn't that credible (to me anyways).

Everything I've read or heard about failure is attributed to easily digested high calorie food or beverage. Regular soda, candy, Cookies, alcohol, chips, etc.

I have never heard of someone stretching their sleeve and getting fat eating an entire pizza a one sitting!

Has anyone?

Carbs, particularly Cookies and sugar will sabotage your Weightloss. It's not just the calories, they'll absolutely make you crave more sugar and cookies.

Find some high protein/low carb foods that you enjoy and eat them first.

I'm 7 months out and lost all my weight in record time. I ate exactly what they told me to eat and logged every single morsel from the orientation through solid foods (at which point I had lost the majority of my weight loss goal.

Once they gave me "the green light" to eat normally, I very slowly added in new foods.

I'm now in maintenance and I weigh in on most mornings. If I go over goal weight, I go back to my 1,000 calorie/day diet.

In terms of food, I defer carbs as long as possible each day. I eat a lot of Atkins type meals (17 of my 21 meals a week).

I allow myself 2-4 meals a week of whatever I want. My major taboo is fries, but I only eat 5-8 and share the rest.

You'll learn a lot about eating right during your pre opt and post opt diets. Don't forget it when you get the green light, just tweak it.

You'll do great!

I have a lengthy thread on this "Oh, the lying". I think it's a "tell everyone" or "tell no one" proposition. I told 6 people and that was 5 too many.

After losing 95 lbs in 5 months, it's all everyone wants to talk about and I'm so sick of it.

In terms of your situation, I'd steer clear of any events that involve dinning. If someone you trust/respect asks, I'd tell them something like "I decided to make some major lifestyle changes and lose a lot of weight. I'm doing exactly what my doctor and nutritionalist tell me to do, and they suggest I avoid social dining situations."

In 2 months, when you're down 30 - 50 lbs. , they'll all want to know "your secret". Tell them your doing exactly what your doctor tells you to do. If they persist, suggest that they go ask THEIR DOCTOR!

I think we just need to develop thicker skin and better "one liners". I live in one part of the country from November to April and I just got back "home". I have lots of friends who are seeing me for the first time down 95 lbs. They say the dumbest things:

1. One couple has now told me 5 times EACH that they don't recognize me (they need new material).

2. A lot of marginal acquaintances come up to me WHILE I'M EATING in a restaurant and look at my plate and say "I want to see what you're eating" or "is that on your diet?"

3. My wife doesn't want me to lose another pound.

4. And of course everyone says "you must feel much better".

I've just started telling them that I lost most of my weight in 2015 and while it's new news to them, it's old news to me. Hopefully they'll leave me alone.

Of course, there are dozens of good friends who are just happy for me. I love them dearly!

@@SleeveandRNYchica @@dede0314 @@Cape Crooner You guys are doing amazing!!!! My loss is still 60 lbs, 20 more to go. I think the closer we get to our goal the slower it gets. I need to walk!

60, you're doing great. It's a fact that it's much harder for women and those of us over 55. Just watch those pesky carbs and drink plenty of Water. Oh yeah, walking is great, but I think it's more for your general health than actual weight loss.