Cape Crooner

Doing great. Hit goal weight March 3rd and haven't been over for more than a day since.

For what it's worth, I'd tell no one and take the 2 months it takes "to show" to consider telling everyone or no one...

I'm starting to see the questioning die down which is great. I don't feel like it's a total lie unless they ask me outright "did you have surgery?"

What's weird has been that the 4 people who asked directly are people I barely know and certainly not close friends (and I have over a hundred close friends)...

Mine started at 200 (I was a nationally ranked athlete at that weight). Quickly changed it to 190, then changed it to comfortably wearing a 36" waist (like I did in 7th grade).

When I raced, I was 5 11 1/2", so 189 was a BMI of 25. I've lost over an inch in height due to hip problems, so I still think 190 is a fair goal.

That said, if I'm over 188 on Monday mornings and/or over 184 on Friday morning, I give myself "a strong talking to", so I guess my true goal is now 185, which would be a BMI of 25 at my old height.

Yes, age matters too. I'm 63, if I was 30, my goal would be 10-15 pounds lower and I'd want to then add it back in muscle. Now, I just don't want anymore lose skin!

Well of course I do say:

1. I did exactly what my doctor and nutritionalist told me to do.

2. I started at 1700 calories, went down to 600, and then started adding back on once I hit my goal.

3. I exercise an hour a day.

But between you, me, and the lamppost, I know that without the sleeve this wouldn't have happened.

How did you all come up with your goal?

I picked the lowest weight in my adult life and took a couple pounds off of that. It translates to a BMI of around 26, but my waist is 35" and my pants are always loose.

I think I could go lower, but my wife tells me I'm too thin now!

I'm not sure I agree with the "no right or wrong answer" comment.

I think telling everyone is fine if that's your thing.

I chose to tell 6 family members and I wish I had either told everyone or just my wife.

I was very successful and went from 281 to 185 in about 6 months. The change is startling and everyone asks me "how did you do it?"

The "wrong" in my choice is now I'm lying all the time to my closest friends.

The other wrong was telling my 93 year old mother. I know she told at least 4 other people and doubt she stressed the importance of secrecy.

So, now I live in a world where I'm forced to lie every time someone asks (which is still daily) and know that someone out there knows I'm lying.

This was the wrong way to handle it.

Thank you all for sharing, before seeing this post. I started writing a letter that chronicles all my diet efforts from middle school to date. I will show proof of recent efforts such as hcg, Atkins, meal delivery, medifast, weight watchers, quick weightloss, LA weightloss & much more, including wellness initiatives at work.

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Please let us know how this turns out. It seems that the approval process is a bit of a "black hole" for a lot of people starting out.

I don't think the size of your sleeve is the issue here. You need to figure out why you would decide to go off plan so soon after surgery. I would suggest some counseling to help you establish a healthier relationship with food

I would suggest reading the entire thread before posting

Oh my?! The whole reason I am getting the sleeve is to stop the hunger level?

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I suppose there is a small hunger reduction, but after 9 months, it's mainly the restriction.

I avoid hunger the same way I did pre-surgery, avoid sugar and white carbs as long as possible each day. Protein and fat keep my appetite at bay.

I'll take a guess and say that the OP posted this just to smoke out the naysayers, just a guess..,

I've been on the forum about a year and I've heard that people who have had a bypass do find that their tastebuds change and some foods cause dumping.

I had a VSG and neither is the case for me. I like all the same stuff and I have zero tolerance issues.

What kind of surgery did you have (or are you planning to have?)

I actually enjoy food more now that my capacity is only around 8 ounces. During the week, I stick to my preopt diet and on weekends out, I order anything that catches my fancy.

I had some sliders with Buns early on, but now I save the space and skip the bun.

The difference is that I use to overeat and feel guilty. Now I eat with a purpose (even if it's a couple of fried oysters) and never look back since I know I didn't eat too much.

I concur with @dubb and @ssflbelle. My program had a couple of soft foods after Day 2 (refried Beans and cream of wheat), but not all do. There is a whole mafia out there lying to people about Orange juice. It's bad for everyone. I was allowed V-8 and enjoyed one every afternoon at Cocktail Hour!

I've ordered a personnel flatbread twice in a restaurant and eaten half each time. Definitely filled my pizza craving. At home I've made them a few times on thin pita bread. Just top with Tomato sauce veggies, pepperoni, and shredded cheese. I'm guessing maybe 400 calories for a whole one. Not a very well balanced Protein - carb meal, but a pretty good choice for a once-a-month break from protein and green veggies.

I have yet to encounter a food I cannot eat post sleeve. That said, I can't eat more than 8 ounces before I'm full!

Does anyone know if it's ok to eat extra Protein during this pre-op liver shrink phase? Could I eat an egg in the morning along with my shake and maybe some lean roast chicken at dinner?

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eggs were on my preopt diet. Ask your NUT...

Let's all calm down and consider the OP's initial question:

"Did I eat too large of a meal? And did I eat the other half to soon?"

He didn't really ask for advice about eating flatbreads, his question was clearly about "fullness", not carbs, not calories.

Those of you who wish he'd ask other questions and chose to answer the question you wish he had asked in a condescending way are simply shaming busy bodies (IMHO)....

Okay, enough with the whole Dr. Phil crap. We ask a lot of questions on this forum and get a lot of answers. I have yet to see anyway say "thanks" after being shamed. Yes, you can freely lecture others. You can also fart in a restaurant. Those around you generally feel the same in either case!

In terms of the OP's question:

1. I'm not sure how big a 6" flatbread is, but it sounds like less than a large slice of bread in terms of carb volume - I think many of us could eat one slice of bread 2 months post opt. We'd be full, but we could get it down.

2. No two sleeves are the same and men seem to have more capacity than women. I've been topping out at about 8 ounces of dense food since month 3.

3. You're volume capacity will change from day to day. One day, you find yourself eating a normal skinny girl meal. The next day, you'll feel full after a small yogurt.

4. I'm an old pizza fan and enjoy a slice or a flatbread every month or so. When I do, I know I'm ingesting a "forbidden fruit", so I savor and contemplate every bite.

To me, the key is logging everything and watching the carb to Protein ratio. I also find that bad days start with too many carbs too early in the day.

Good luck...

Yes, I think it's natural. You have already invested a lot in this decision and you deserve to enjoy those dividends. A lot of people on this forum talk about NSV's (non scale victories), but be honest, it's all about the scale!

I hit my goal 3 months ago and my maintenance program is to eat like I'm still on my post opt diet M-F and loosen up on weekends.

I still weigh in almost every day. Now I weigh just under my goal weight on Monday morning and drop 3-4 pounds by Friday.

I'm still scale obsessed!

For all of your support, thank you. Tomorrow is one week post op. I regret having it done as I have said. I don't miss the food or eating but I miss the simplicity of life before.

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1. For the next 4-8 weeks, you don't have to think a lot about what to eat (or not), you just follow the plan.

2. Unlike other diets, the pounds will drop away like magic - doesn't that sound nice?

3. Unlike other diets, you'll be adding more variety and quantity each week.

4. Once you reach you're goal, your life will be much simpler than ever before. You'll be able enjoy food without the fear of overeating. You will have to make smart choices, but by then those choices should be ingrained in your brain!

You will live to rejoice this decision and it will be sooner than you think...

I was 62 and once I did my research (about 30 days online), I rushed into it. I had my orientation on August 10 and weighed in at 281. I immediately went on a preopt (1700 calories/day) diet.

I was 251 on October 6 for my surgery and hit my goal of 190 less than 5 months later.

This is truly a miracle, life saving surgery. My life is so much fuller and more enjoyable than I ever imagined possible.

You are blessed to be eligible - enjoy the journey!

Based on the 3 pints I drank over the Memorial Day Weekend. I think when it comes to bottled beer, the colder the better!

I think micro brew on tap has less bubbles...