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Amanda Dutton LPC

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  1. Yes she does. She’s been seeing the same psychiatrist since she was 20 (she’s 42 now)
    I agree with having the support behind you (it helps a lot) even without having bipolar.. I’m sure it’s a bigger struggle (she’s all over the place with her mood at times) for the most part she’s on the down side.


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    So glad I came across this thread. Hopefully I can help.

    Therapist, specialize in treating us, also complete evaluations, also have Bipolar I (and had surgery so...🤷🏼‍♀️).

    According to the actual guidelines that we are supposed to follow regarding who has to be considered as not ready for surgery:
    - actively psychotic
    - recent (past year) inpatient hospitalization for mental health (suicidal/homicidal)
    - drug/alcohol abuse within the past 6 months
    - unstable mental health diagnosis (e.g. not actively in treatment, not keeping up with meds and appointments, etc.)

    Now, the good news is, NONE of those things mean the person will NEVER be approved - they may just have to have a period of time that they show stability/treatment compliance BEFORE they get approved.

    That info is straight from the ASMBS (American Society for Metabolic and Bariatric Surgery) guidelines. If the psychiatrist says otherwise, he can take it up with them! 🤣

    I hope that helps.

    ~SW: 278 CW: 165~
    RNY 1/5/2005
    "What got you here won't get you there."


  2. Speaking as a mental health counselor and a fellow sleever, you are all on the right track. Use distraction, get moving, music, journal, art...whatever helps your mood. The thing is we can't go to our comfort foods anymore. That's going to make this journey challenging as we figure out new (hopefully healthier) habits for when we are feeling emotionally challenged (depression, anxiety, stress, anger, etc.) Of course, I'm biased, but having someone to talk to like a therapist will be really helpful.
    You are totally right (but I may be biased, too - LoL - also a counselor!), we lost our #1 coping tool and have to start feeling "all the things," probably for the first time in a really long time. For me, it was like being an addict (who am I kidding, I am an addict) jonesing for the next hit so I could "numb it all away."

    For some of us (yes, us - even some therapists), we will always need medication. I look at it like this - the meds are like my life raft - but it's still up to me to paddle if I want to get anywhere.

    ~SW: 278 CW: 165~
    RNY 1/5/2005
    "What got you here won't get you there."


  3. Duh....lol...just found out that different Protein dishes, ie salmon as opposed to chicken, has different grams of Protein. You CANNOT convert grams into protein as I was doing.
    That's why it's all about learning! Who knows? You may have totally just helped someone else who wouldn't have been brave enough to ask! Glad you got the answer - especially since you were able to figure it out yourself!

    I use this website to reference when trying to get an idea of how much protein something has and I don't have a label. Hope this is helpful to you! http://apjcn.nhri.org.tw/server/info/books-phds/books/foodfacts/html/data/data2d.html

    ~SW: 278 CW: 165~
    RNY 1/5/2005
    "What got you here won't get you there."


  4. Should I be worried about this?image-0.00405311584472656.thumb.jpg.0cf9295ee04fb30d162c922ddefdcc85.jpg
    I don't think the two items you have circled are related. The thickening in the abdominal muscles, based on where it's located, is most likely scar tissue - probably from the gallbladder removal (cholecystectomy) and they were also ruling out the image being from sutures from your current surgery, since both of those use an instrument that goes in through the belly button (umbilicus).

    Those findings wouldn't be critical, so they wouldn't need to be reported to the hospitalist right away by the radiologist, unless it was to alert them of any sort of pain management protocol to order and have on hand for you ASAP. Scar tissue/adhesions make healing from additional surgery more difficult and painful, but again, I don't think that would be a critical result. 🤷🏼‍♀️

    The good news is, they would need to treat you for anything critical before release and get it under control, so at that point, you would be okay. For your peace of mind though, call and ask your PCP. No harm in that!

    ~SW: 278 CW: 165~
    RNY 1/5/2005
    "What got you here won't get you there."


  5. I think its odd they didn't let you use your current therapist for your eval. S/he knows you and your capabilities best. My therapist (who, granted, specializes in weight management/bariatric issues) was able to do my eval and write my letter. I saw three docs before I chose who I'd ultimately use and all 3 said my current therapist could write the letter.
    I've found out (as a therapist myself) that some insurance companies are the ones that won't let a therapist write the letter, not necessarily the doc. That may not be the case here, but just my own experience. It sucks. I figure I could help better than someone who hasn't had the surgery, but the damn insurance companies know better, I guess (insert eye roll - LoL).

    ~SW: 278 CW: 165~
    RNY 1/5/2005
    "What got you here won't get you there."


  6. Here we go! Net Protein Utilization is the percentage of the protein that your body actually absorbs.

    So, if you are using whey protein isolate or concentrate (make sure it's not a blend, because it may be mixed with soy or something else that can lower the score), you are getting almost 100% of the protein.

    Hope that helps!Screenshot_20190121-213544_Chrome.jpeg

    ~SW: 278 CW: 165~
    RNY 1/5/2005
    "What got you here won't get you there."


  7. That’s a great idea to start to taper more! Diet Coke and not drinking while I’m eating are going to be two big ones for me! I’ll keep you posted, I hope you are doing well on your journey!
    Not drinking while eating was hard for me, too! I had to just not fix one. Ugh, I thought it was terrible at first, but it becomes the "new normal" pretty soon.

    I'm doing well! At 14 years out, I'm happy to report it *is* possible to stay successful. There are still those days I want to snack myself in the head for filling up my plate based on my "old brain," but food doesn't rule my life anymore, so I'm definitely gonna say I'd do it 1000 times over again.

    ~SW: 278 CW: 165~
    RNY 1/5/2005
    "What got you here won't get you there."


  8. I’m super excited and still on my way towards a VSG! My sleep study is complete with no need for follow up. My psych eval has been completed and cleared. I have 4 more visits with my Dietician and I hope to have my surgery scheduled in May or early June. I don’t really know how long the approval process and scheduling usually extends beyond that last visit with my dietician which will be the last week of April but I’m thinking at least two weeks due to the liquid diet. Haven’t lost any but haven’t gained either while I wait. I haaaave tapered out most carbonated beverages and cut down on caffeine. How are you all? I’m nervous one week and excited the next... and then nervous all over again. Seems like 6 months is just enough time to go through the wringer emotionally!
    Sounds like you are rocking along! It probably won't take long after you finish with the dietitian. Like you said, probably by the end of May. I'm excited for you!

    Caffeine is tough. I've always been a coffee drinker, so I started cutting mine with Decaf, a little at a time, until I was fully switched over. Same with diet coke - I kept caffeine free around and cut it in as I went. And kept telling myself I had to drink as much Water (flavored, couldn't do it straight at first) as coke or coffee BEFORE I could have one or the other. Except a small cup of coffee in the morning. Still can't stomach water on a completely empty stomach but I can do coffee. Strange, I know.

    Keep us posted!

    ~SW: 278 CW: 165~
    RNY 1/5/2005
    "What got you here won't get you there."


  9. Hi there,

    I’m new to this site and 4 weeks post-op. I came across an article that said bariatric surgery puts us at risk of bone loss/weakness and also makes us more susceptible to fractures. Is this true? Does the Calcium we take protect our bones?

    Don't panic. The PCP sounds like he needs to do some continuing education on WLS. That study primarily focuses on people who had RNY, since the sleeve didn't become popular until later.

    Those of us who had RNY can be at higher risk for bone loss because we have had several feet of the top part of our digestive tract removed. That's the malabsorption thing people talk about.

    VSG folks are still essentially intact but with just a smaller stomach (one of the highlights of VSG).

    Of course, keep taking your Calcium unless instructed otherwise by your surgery center, but as long as there are not other non-WLS factors that could cause bone loss (ongoing untreated low Vitamin D, heavy smoking or alcohol use, etc), the chances are low.

    This is based on findings from several studies by the ASMBS (American Society for Metabolic and Bariatric Surgery) - the managing organization for everything WLS.

    See screenshots. No more risk than with a lab band, and those have NO digestive tract change/removed.

    Hope that helps!20190119_113544.thumb.jpeg.cf29bc2947c4575f27df5a80e65d32aa.jpeg 20190119_113815.thumb.jpeg.71d2caff0e1c80b4d777186dbdd33a90.jpeg

    ~SW: 278 CW: 165~

    RNY 1/5/2005

    "What got you here won't get you there."


  10. So I had my first consultation today with the weight loss center I was planning on going through. My insurance has already approved getting surgery, for what its worth. During the meeting, the lady asked a ton of questions, and inquired about my relationship with food. She somehow got the impression that I stress eat, even after I tried to clarify that I do not. Things at home have been a bit rocky, and my stress level has been high, so you can see where this is going. After the hour long consultation, she told me that due to stress being high, financial issues being a factor, and the fact that we moved 2 years ago and have no family or friends here (No local support group), that I was not a good fit for surgery.
    I was a little floored, but took it like a champ. I had an appointment already scheduled following that one, with a physician, and she encouraged me to see him regardless because ultimately he'd be working along with the surgeons and may have a different opinion. We met for a little over 40 minutes, and he questioned me about the traumas I'd experienced as a child, and followed up asking about how often I turn to food for comfort. I don't feel I do (And neither does my husband, nor my best friend of 20+ years), and told him rarely, if ever. He said, and I quote: "Mmm.. I disagree with you there!" Uh? Okay..? I figured I'd humor him and asked why he came to that conclusion. He went on to elaborate that because I was abused as a child that I surely turned to food as a form or comfort, or affection, even if I didn't realize I was doing so. Huh. Okay. I mean, I literally brought you my food log, and am telling you otherwise, but alright. The rest of the meeting he spent explaining that I was a better candidate for medical weight loss, but not so much surgical. I'm 32 years old, 397lbs. I have pcos, am pre-diabetic, and am pursuing WLS to not only better my health as conventional methods have failed, but also to start a family in a few years with my husband.
    This whole experience has left me incredibly disheartened, and I genuinely feel like every step I've made on this journey has been an uphill battle. Do you guys think I should pursue another opinion with a different clinic? I'm not exactly thrilled at the thought of taking 'weight loss pills' so medical weight loss isn't very appealing to me. I'm super conflicted and confused as to what to do going forward. Any advice would be welcomed! Thank you!
    Therapist here, 14 years post RNY. [emoji1327]‍♀️

    Definitely see a different clinic AND start seeing a therapist (preferably see the therapist at least once so you can tell the new clinic you are going).

    Based on your post, nothing stands out that would indicate that you couldn't have surgery.

    1) even if you were stress eating - not something that can't be dealt with in therapy (e.g. I think most of us stress eat at some point, TBH)
    2) My original doctor said I "wasn't bog enough" for surgery (278lbs, 26 years old, arthritis in knees and high blood pressure) - so I fired him and went to another doc. She saw and heard me, so she agreed that I could have surgery
    3) if all else fails, go ahead and see a psychologist for an evaluation. Find one in network with your insurance AND that is approved by the surgery group, if they have a list). Nothing like having a step out of the way AND validation that you are ready.

    Hope that helps!

    ~SW: 278 CW: 165~
    RNY 1/5/2005
    "What got you here won't get you there."


  11. Gosh I wish! [emoji6] My gut is so whacked. LOL. They just started Linzess on me yesterday. Gah!
    Oh that stinks (well, maybe it will - I guess in this case that would be a good thing [emoji38] )!

    ~SW: 278 CW: 165~
    RNY 1/5/2005
    "What got you here won't get you there."


  12. Calcium blocks absorption of Heme Iron. From what I've researched, it doesn't block non-heme iron and can be taken together.
    I take one of the Bariatric Fusion Multis (it doesn't have iron in it) twice a day and just take my iron separately, about 2 hours later. I agree about the calcium absorption, Alex. The BF multis have a good amount of calcium, so I haven't had to take a separate one.

    ~SW: 278 CW: 165~
    RNY 1/5/2005
    "What got you here won't get you there."


  13. Thanks for this explanation! It makes so much sense. I hope to see my Iron saturation levels coming up by using it!
    I'm so glad you've found the answer to your iron problems and anemia! I know infusions are tough on you!!! So glad your ferritin has been normal!
    This is the one I take. It's the heme iron combined with the other plant one. Is this what you take?
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    That's the one! As a side note, it also doesn't seem to cause the Constipation issues that regular iron does.

    ~SW: 278 CW: 165~
    RNY 1/5/2005
    "What got you here won't get you there."


  14. I just reached out to Mylan to see if they'd sell to us directly or if it's available through a national distributor, thanks! Why do you like it?
    I also take Feosol Complete, and it was recommended to me by my Hematologist. I ended up with a serious Iron deficiency several years ago, despite taking iron (my ferratin was a 6 - anything under 10 is considered "critical") and had to have an infusion the day after I met the Hematologist.

    She recommended the Feosol Complete because a poly/heme iron absorbs further down the digestive tract and iron salts (the usual iron supplements everyone takes) are absorbed in the duodenum, which RNY and DS patients no longer have access to.

    I had one other infusion as my body tried to regulate itself, but haven't had a low ferratin level in over 5 years since taking Feosol Complete.

    And it DOES have to be the "Complete" version. The regular Feosol is not a poly/heme.

    Hope that helps!

    ~SW: 278 CW: 165~
    RNY 1/5/2005
    "What got you here won't get you there."


  15. If you have reflux before surgery, sleeve generally won't help. I know there are a few that have gotten relief from occasional heartburn, but since the sleeve leaves access to stomach acid in the sleeve (RNY separates it and it doesn't meet the food until after the pouch), it's not going to change the cause of reflux.

    It's definitely something to consider.

    ~SW: 278 CW: 165~
    RNY 1/5/2005
    "What got you here won't get you there."


  16. Oh my gosh, Thank you Amanda for this as I had no idea on how to find a Pysch that deals with bariatrics/ weight loss and now with this website https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/therapists , I see I have numerous options. Google was doing nothing for me so Thank you!
    You are very welcome! I have the options set in my area, and also added bariatric surgery (we can add any specialties that aren't listed), but I don't know if many therapists think to do that.

    ~SW: 278 CW: 165~
    RNY 1/5/2005
    "What got you here won't get you there."


  17. So very normal!

    If we think about it like an addict (which most of us are, whether we realize it or not), we are in "withdrawal" after surgery from the carbs, sugar and fat our bodies are used to. So our brains start saying "hold up - where did it all go? Did you forget we like this stuff? Let me remind you!"

    Drug addicts call these "using dreams." They can be so real, they will wake up convinced they relapsed. It happens to us too.

    So look at it as your brain realizing that it's not getting all the "bad stuff" - not the lettuce, but the fatty things that would go with it - and Celebrate. You may feel like you're going crazy, but you're really going through detox.

    ~SW: 278 CW: 165~
    RNY 1/5/2005
    "What got you here won't get you there."


  18. There is a great website that we therapists use to list ourselves and makes it easier for people to find us. It's called Psychology Today.

    You can filter the therapies by location, insurance, problem (there isn't one for bariatric surgery, but weight issues and maybe obesity are options) and even preferred gender of therapist.

    Working with a psychologist or therapist is a huge help, and a letter from them should make your docs, surgeons and/or psychiatrist take you seriously.

    ~SW: 278 CW: 165~
    RNY 1/5/2005
    "What got you here won't get you there."


  19. Hi there. I had my surgery at the end of 2017, and have lost a total of about 75 lbs. I feel like I did well until early October, and have been at a standstill, with lots of bad habits from my earlier life coming back in to play. I definitely am a stress eater, and have changed jobs, I am dealing with some difficult issues with my kids, and my parents are having lots of health issues, so the stress has piled up. A lot of this was out of my control, but making big changes as a new surgery patient was too much for me, but here I am, and I have to deal with it.
    I started seeing a therapist, and have anti depression/anxiety meds which have finally seemed to level things out a bit. I think I am at the point where I am looking around and feeling like I have been through a big storm, but I want to get back on track.
    I have about 65 lbs. to go to be at goal, and I know I can do it. I just need to forgive myself, and find some inspiration. Any advice or tips? Thanks in advance!
    I posted this last week, but I hope it is helpful for you.

    https://www.bariatricpal.com/applications/tapatalk/index.php?/topic/421945-Sharing-my-knowledge---my-14-year-Surgi-versary!#entry4731671

    ~SW: 278 CW: 165~
    RNY 1/5/2005
    "What got you here won't get you there."

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