thecakewasalie

when you went back to get it out was it still draining?I am wondering what happens if it is?Thank you!!!

They took mine out before I left the hospital. It was still draining some but it was only a little. The point of it was to watch for blood and dye make sure there were no leaks.

I only had one for 2 days.

On the topic of drastic numbers. Guys....a pound a day is 365 in a year. That is 3.5-7 times the recomendable speed during normal dieting. It will happen in your first few weeks for sure but do not expect huge numbers like that forever. You would be really ill if you were to drop 15 pounds a week every week till goal. It is not healthy. Anywhere from 1-5 pounds a week is a great loss. I am not saying anyone is doing anything wrong but I would hate to see you heartbroken in 3 - 4 weeks when it slows down to normal.

Ps. TAKE YOUR VITAMINS!

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Maybe I should keep my mouth shut. I am not a patient, but the very supportive wife. My husband is starting the process of a band to sleeve revision and we are hoping for a late September surgery date. I have been to the appointment with him, and have read not just the binder from the surgeon, but everything I can find online.

Both DH and I know that this is a tool to help him lose weight and get healthy. He also knows that in order to be successful, he needs to follow, to the letter, the program that the surgeon and nutritionist lay out.

I read all the time here, and on other forums, of people who are not being successful. Most of the time, it comes out that they are eating solids too soon or eating too many carbs. I am the first to admit that I don't know what it's like to be a food addict. But, having been with one for almost 25 years, I know the struggles all too well. Ultimately, it is up to him to succeed with this gift he is being given. And while I cannot watch him 24/7, he knows that following the plan is the only way to succeed. Liquids for 2 weeks. Mashies for 2 then the slow introduction of solids. Letting the new stomach heal and more importantly, learning how to eat to live, not live to eat.

Sorry if I offended anyone, and like I said, I don't know what it's like to live in your shoes. But, I will walk over flaming broken glass to help my husband succeed.

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Please understand that every surgeon is different and every surgeon's plan is different. I did not have a liquid pre-op diet. I had a low carb, 1000 calories a day diet of just lean Proteins and non-starchy veggies for 3 weeks.

My surgeon has been doing bariatric surgery for years, has a ton of them under his belt, and is part of a Bariatric Center of Excellence. I had a revision from band to sleeve which he says is different from straight sleeve too in what you will feel with restriction and what you will be able to eat to start with.

I would advise your husband to follow what his surgeon says.

For a min I was like....wait...I never said that.

@@hockeyfan7 Are you 2 weeks out from surgery? And you are eating regular food and getting in 1,000 calories a day? Do you have a nutritionist?

I am three weeks out from surgery. And yes I can eat regular food without any problems and eat 1000 calories a day easily. A meal is 5 oz of Protein and a salad no problem. I do have a nutritionist but she's on vacation. I'm thinking I got a bigger stomach after the surgery. I have had zero problems with eating anything and I can chug a glass of Water easily too with no problems. I see my surgeon next week. I'm not eating crap food - I'm eating lean Protein and veggies but I can still eat more than I should be able to at this point.

I think MANY conversion folks feel that way. I know I did. This "I can only sip 2oz of Water and I feel like I am drowning " never happened to me.

There are as many after surgery diets as there are doctors. Everyone thinks their doc is the most right. But if none of them agree then my thought is there is no scientific answer and they are all GUESSING. SO, just be aware of that when people start judging you and what your doc has you doing.

MOST people on here mean well, and they may come off as being harsh but they are providing helpful information along the way and they do care. Others are just food shaming and do nothing other than that...not actually offering any usefulness in their post. Ignore those ones and try not to let it get to you.

Most docs do not have people on solids at 3 weeks but I have read the post diets from 3 different hospitals who do. So I am not totally suprised.

That being said. It still hurts for me to eat meat. But that is me. If you are 3 weeks out and able to eat 1000 calories of solid food then you might benefit from a 5 day pouch test. You can look it up online but pretty much go back to liquids for a couple days, then mushies, softs, then regular food again. Some people say that helps them get some better restriction. Eating solids...and too much solid too soon and put stress on your staple line. I have also read that it can cause you to stretch out a but more...making it hard to fill up. I don't know how much of that is "bro science " and how much of that is proven science but it can't hurt to do a reset and see how you feel.

Also, when you are eating normal food. Make sure you are not drinking with or too soon after. Conversion surgery people already seem to have their food make its way into the lower gi a little faster so don't speed that process up.

Eat slow, BUT don't eat so slow that it takes you more than 20 min. I wad doing this very thing!!! I wad taking about 45 min to eat...and could eat a lot. But I sped up just a little bit and started stopping after 20 min and I am filling up on less calories.

1000 calories can add up fast. And really...in the long run....it is what we should eventually be eating. The idea that we live on 500 calories a day for ever is absurd. The point of this honeymoon phase is to help you lose weight WHILE retraining your system to eat healthy.

NO ONE GETS FAT ON 1000 CALORIES A DAY OF VEGETABLES AND chicken....unless you are 2. So....

Hang in there. ..listen to your body....and just keep making good choices.

Much love!!!

Thanks! I saw my surgeon 2 days ago for my post-op follow up and he said he took off about 70% instead of the usual 80% because of the band. He didn't want leaks.

He also said that 1,000 calories a day is fine and not to worry about what the NUT says. He said they are more used to dealing with straight sleevers and not revisions. He said revisions can sometimes eat more and I'm doing fine. He told me to just stick to Proteins and hit the goal and then fill in with the non-starchy veggies and not to worry about it.

My surgeon's normal plan is for people to start solids between day 10 and day 14 depending on how they feel. Lean Proteins and non-starchy veggies. He keeps reminding me every time I see him not to eat mashed potatoes. I hate, loathe and despise mashed potatoes. I told him I'd rather eat canned cat food - at least it has protein.

Hahahahahha you go girl! I was eating similar to you...went to liquids 2 meals a day and just eggs for the 3rd meal. Now I am filling up on a lot less. Didn't even take 5 days. But I am losing again. Do what works for you...but if it stops working. ..try mixing it up a little. Remember. ..marathon...not a sprint.

@@hockeyfan7 Are you 2 weeks out from surgery? And you are eating regular food and getting in 1,000 calories a day? Do you have a nutritionist?

I am three weeks out from surgery. And yes I can eat regular food without any problems and eat 1000 calories a day easily. A meal is 5 oz of Protein and a salad no problem. I do have a nutritionist but she's on vacation. I'm thinking I got a bigger stomach after the surgery. I have had zero problems with eating anything and I can chug a glass of Water easily too with no problems. I see my surgeon next week. I'm not eating crap food - I'm eating lean Protein and veggies but I can still eat more than I should be able to at this point.

I think MANY conversion folks feel that way. I know I did. This "I can only sip 2oz of Water and I feel like I am drowning " never happened to me.

There are as many after surgery diets as there are doctors. Everyone thinks their doc is the most right. But if none of them agree then my thought is there is no scientific answer and they are all GUESSING. SO, just be aware of that when people start judging you and what your doc has you doing.

MOST people on here mean well, and they may come off as being harsh but they are providing helpful information along the way and they do care. Others are just food shaming and do nothing other than that...not actually offering any usefulness in their post. Ignore those ones and try not to let it get to you.

Most docs do not have people on solids at 3 weeks but I have read the post diets from 3 different hospitals who do. So I am not totally suprised.

That being said. It still hurts for me to eat meat. But that is me. If you are 3 weeks out and able to eat 1000 calories of solid food then you might benefit from a 5 day pouch test. You can look it up online but pretty much go back to liquids for a couple days, then mushies, softs, then regular food again. Some people say that helps them get some better restriction. Eating solids...and too much solid too soon and put stress on your staple line. I have also read that it can cause you to stretch out a but more...making it hard to fill up. I don't know how much of that is "bro science " and how much of that is proven science but it can't hurt to do a reset and see how you feel.

Also, when you are eating normal food. Make sure you are not drinking with or too soon after. Conversion surgery people already seem to have their food make its way into the lower gi a little faster so don't speed that process up.

Eat slow, BUT don't eat so slow that it takes you more than 20 min. I wad doing this very thing!!! I wad taking about 45 min to eat...and could eat a lot. But I sped up just a little bit and started stopping after 20 min and I am filling up on less calories.

1000 calories can add up fast. And really...in the long run....it is what we should eventually be eating. The idea that we live on 500 calories a day for ever is absurd. The point of this honeymoon phase is to help you lose weight WHILE retraining your system to eat healthy.

NO ONE GETS FAT ON 1000 CALORIES A DAY OF VEGETABLES AND chicken....unless you are 2. So....

Hang in there. ..listen to your body....and just keep making good choices.

Much love!!!

It took just under 2 for the actual surgery portion. I had a ton of damage and scar tissue. he shaved some down where the band was. I had one on my esophagus that they left alone just in case

My area where my port was removed was the worst. It burned and was extremely sore. I'm a little over a week out and feeling much better. Went back to work today.

I had it done in one. On a Friday was back to work on Tuesday. But I have a sitting job. I didn't take ANY pain meds post surgery because I don't like them. I hurt but it was livable.

Eating WILL BE DIFFICULT. You will probably get stuck on everything for a while. 8 weeks and I am finally able to eat without any problems.

It finally went away. Took 8 freaking weeks...but I can eat normal slow and not stick

You're already eating steak??? I'm supposed to do liquids week 1 and add cream Soups week 2...

Yes, the nutritionist said it was fine to do lean Proteins and green veggies at the end of week two. I just had to do Protein shakes, yogurt and cream soups the first 2 weeks. The program at the hospital I went to progresses you to solids between day 10 and day 14.

Some hospitals have people progressing to solids after week 1. I still hurt if I eat meat. But every doc is different and it seems like everyone thinks their's is right. I am 100% mine is an idiot for post op stuff. But that is me. I am out here in lala land thinking if every doc has such different ideas...then really...everyone is just guessing.

Do what feels right as long as it is smart. I am 8 weeks out and meat hurts...so i don't eat it but I can have salad with out any problems so I eat till I am full. I can down half a bottle of Water and 30oz of Protein shake+ decafe espresso in an hour or so. But my doc says I am off liquid Protein by now and on meats....not gonna happen yet.

Thank you! I have been worried that I'm going to take this drastic step and then I'm not going to lose, I'll sabotage myself, etc ???? Thanks for the info - it sounds to me like you're doing great! I'll need to keep this in mind post op.

I just started my low carb diet today, so I'm super grouchy and tired. Lol!

You can find me on instagram too by the same name if you just want a buddy post op. There are a lot of vsg-ers there too!

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Here is the upside...and it took me all month to come to this conclusion. Yes...I have not lost any weight in almost 8 weeks. YES i am very bugged about that. BUT...and this is a big BUT (one T not 2)

I AM NOT GAINING ANY WEIGHT EITHER. I gained 3 pounds and it is almost gone so I am pretty sure that was PMS weight. BUT prior to having this done I was not only not losing but when I didn't lose I would panic...eat..and gain. I gained 40 pounds in a year. So if I only lose 20 pounds a YEAR and I don't GAIN...that is a HUGE plus!

Good luck with your surgery!

I am so scared of this same thing!!! Good luck to you!!

Good call. I am upping my Water intake. I know I was lacking in that department. I am making a point to get in 60-80oz of Water a day...not including any other liquids like Protein and such. Hopefully that will help. But 8 weeks of water? I think my body is just like

OMG NOOOOOOO you have not weighed less than 220 since you were 15....this is going to KILL YOU. YOU CAN"T DO IT. And so it is just staying right freaking where it wants to be.

Little does it know.....

I. Will. Win!

@@thecakewasalie
If your blood pressure medication was a diuretic then you may be retaining Fluid.

I wasn't really on anything before surgery other than BP meds. I took myself off of them because I started getting dizzy after surgery with them. I was only a little bit high when I was put on them.

I do have a epic TON of heartburn and it feels like hunger. I am thinking about going in to Zoom care and asking for something for it. Maybe that is why I feel the need to eat so many meals in a day.

Did the Dr. by any chance discontinue any if your medications? mine discontinued my Metformin and my HCTZ and stool softeners. When he discharged me from the hospital . I wasn't losing at all until I called him and asked to be put back on all my pre-op meds.

My surgery was June 4 , I only lost 15 pounds so far. I am also upset, I feel I am Hardly eating it should come off quicker.

Anybody with th same results? I just started mushy foods, yougurt has 17 carbs, I am wondering if I should even eat it.

15 pounds in 7 days is a huge amount of loss. There might be some yogurts with less carbs but look at your total for the day. It seems like everyone everywhere has a different idea of what is the right way to eat. I eat 30 or less a day and I am still not losing. I gave up yogurt and pretty much anything else like it and I am just barely losing .2 pounds a week. Hang in there love.

You are PAYING for a table he said you broke? A BARIATRIC surgeon does not purchase a table that will support a bariatric patient? I am sorry but you are a fool to pay one red cent to this surgeon. Get a lawyer!! Please tell us his/her NAME, we would like to know.

He has said a lot of crap like that. He has his own forum on Facebook. The final straw for me was when a girl said....why am I still stalled. His reply was "don't worry, you will break the stall just like you broke my table from you high bmi...which I am still paying for and the hospital reminds me of everyday. "

In a public post, in a public forum, for all to see. Nothing he has said to anyone so far has been helpful. So I just went off on my own.

The doctor's name was "Dr. Kelly," the OP said.

The table broke when a different patient (not the OP) was on it -- so said the insane surgeon.

Honestly, for a surgeon to say something like this in a FB group says to me: This surgeon is typing under the influence of something -- alcohol or drugs. Seriously. Not kidding. At all.

Right?! And the difference in conversation between in person and online is Jekyll and Hyde.

Honestly, this sounds awfully high in fat. That could be throwing things off.

I agree but it said 33 grams of that was in my salad...before dressing. I seriously doubt it as there was only a small amount of cheese on it. I think they entered the info into myfitnesspal incorrectly. But that is what it says so that is what I am rolling with for now. But yeah...that seemed a bit high to me too.

@jane13....maybe that is it. I am eating for far too long. It takes me about 45 min to eat. So maybe that is why I am able to eat so much....?

Ok guys. Here it is. I wrote down EVERYTHING that I am eating today except my dinner because I don't know if I will even eat dinner. I get home around 7am sometimes later as I have been working 10 hour shifts everyday for 2 weeks now...so by the time I get home I am tired.

HERE IS MY LIST OF CALORIES, and macros

Breakfast

1/2 loaded (egg, bacon, cheese, green onion, tomato) salad. (220)

1 TBS lite dressing. (45)

lunch

1/2 loaded salad (220) but did not finish it all

1 TBS lite dressing. (45)

snack

1oz almonds, plain (160)

1 premier shake 160

TOTAL 890

Protein 71

Fat 58

Carbs 30

Still is higher in calories than what everyone says I should be eating.

My mouth is still hanging open at your surgeon's FB comment. Unbelievable.

I think your new approach is a good one. Focus on Protein, Water, a few healthy veggies. Avoid all processed carbs and (for now) fruits. Move a little more every day.

Also continue to focus mentally on your long-term reasons and goals of health, a better life, etc. Fantasize about all that, engage in positive self-talk, hang out here and read lots of success stories. Remind yourself of what a marvelous opportunity this is for us all.

Are you eating slower, chewing very well, not drinking with meals? Do you know about all those behaviors?

I had lapband for 10 years so I already eat pretty slow. I try really hard not to drink with my meals I don't always make the full 30 min before I drink a little Water but I am usually pretty close.

I work out...pretty hard 3 days a week. I run for 20-30 min on the elliptical and then I do weight training. So I am moving. I just totaled my food for the day and I am at 925 calories. That is not counting dinner (which I often skip because I am so tired when I leave work in the morning). Of that 925 I am 73 Protein, 61 fat, and only 30 carbs.

I hate to hear that any surgeon would be that rude. Maybe you should look for you a nutritionists check and see if your insurance covers one. Try to remember always Protein first then vegetables if you have room. Only get carbs from good veggies. No bread, rice, Pasta or sweets. I hope this helps.

What is your Protein goal?

Are you getting in all your protein and Water every day?

I have to add for the benefit of the folks who posted above that if your protein goal is 100 grams, then 1200 calories is reasonable. If your protein goal is 60 grams, then yes, 1200 calories is a bit high --but, it is a relative and based on your protein requirements and your program as developed with your NUT.

Unfortunately I did not have a NUT and the instructions post surgery were so inconsistent that many ppl started asking the doc. Instead of giving us correct information he just kept saying....do whatever you want...I'll resleeve you in 2 years.

So I have never asked questions since.

You, my dear, are brilliant. I never even considered seeing if my insurance would cover it!!!!

I am spending the next few days micro managing everything I eat. See if that makes a difference. I also took a laxative since it has been several days. I am back to drinking Protein shakes at least once a day. That way I can get in more greens too.

I just wanted to point out that you didn't really gain 3 pounds from eating 1200 calories in two days (and actually not even if you did all week). 1 lb is roughly 3500 calories. So you would have had to eat 3x that beyond what it takes for your body to survive.

So take a deep breath it's most likely Water weight. When u don't drink enough water your body will hold on to it.

That's what I was thinking! !! But I have not gained or lost even .01 pounds for many weeks. (I weigh everyday. ) so no water fluctuations but then...BAM 3 pounds. It freaked my ass out!

Can I ask who was your surgeon? I am researching surgeons now, and I would hate to choose him/her!

@@thecakewasalie - Do you have a nutritionist? If you are only 8 weeks out from surgery there is no way you should be eating 1,200 calories a day. You might not being losing weight because you are eating too much.

I do not have a NUT. I have a whole ton of backstop with that on my other thread. Pretty much the doc has been useless post surgery. I need to find one I think. I was able to drink half of a bottle of Water in 2 hours or so 2 days after surgery. However, I think I overestimated the calories because looking at my fitnesspal they are closer to 900 but still.