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Because i am emphasing some points and if it did seem like I was talking down to someone I probably was, sorry. I only had three in there and two of them were kinda the same sentence . I think LosingJustMe does work for the airlines.

I think the law was on the right side on this one. Because another individual inflicted harm "per sexual abuse" with intent to do harm. I do question some of the other parts of the story where the officials said they will have to take the children and "deprogram them" from their religion. Maybe its a poor choice of words but I can see where this later on can get dicey. You have a link to some stories on this?

Which is why the SW policy of arm rests is fair. Then you don't have to guess and attendants don't ahve to argue with the 400lb man who doen't understand why people can't sit by him. This is good. Wish more people would do this so MY ticket prices won;t go up. Yes top execs get alot of money. What company's execs don't? What you need to do is look at margin of profits. Or maybe take a economics class.If you took one or two seats out of a certain type a plane it would cost alot. $100's of dollars x per 100's of flight X 100's of planes. Try doing the math! 60% of americans are over weight not morbidly obese. Last time I checked I can fit in the seats fine with a 43 BMI. Again, people DOOOOOOOOOO have choices. upgrade your seat! pay for seat insurance! Fly on airlines that have bigger seats. Private airlines don't have to conform to you. As a customer you can do what you want but so can they.

Happy to do what? I seen about 20 of your posts in this thread and either they are agreeing and stroking gadget off or telling other people to "be nice". Anyways good luck on that whole "stopping the baby killers" thing. I meant "baby killer" in a non personal way.......:biggrin::biggrin:

Exactly my point. It does roll off my back, I just brought it up to show hypocrisy when she rants about personal attacks. The parrot comment came up because she spent more time repeating someone else and then doing worthless drivel on "personal attacks" and never contributes anything to the actual topic. Anyways the post is from another thread, but I won't be coming back to this one, because it only seems vindictive people who trying to screw with each other and have no good arguements are on now. I think they call them forum trolls. Where I come from you just feed trolls waffles. Here you folks go! (#)(#)(#)

quote from your own sentence!!!!!!!!!!! Can anyone sane here tell me this wasn't a personal attack? Really? If so tell me what she really meant?

Not talking about anyone in particular. I wouldn't want to get personal.

Sure thats all you said? It wasn't in this thread, but in another. And this is what you said Sounds to me you are inferring that I sinned worse then calling names without any evidence. Which to my religion in itself is a sin. Again, all i said originally was the words "church goers" which wasn't pointed to anyone and even admittedly call myself a church goer all the time. Yet with that statement you had to get personal. I'm not trying to complain about it, because it rolls off my back like Water. Just pointing out your hypocritical rants about people taking personal shots at other people.

A parrot is an animal who will repeats what a person says in conversations and contributes nothing else except "squawks" and "eeks". Hmm sounds like someone who posts here......... So go ahead and cast the first stone. Your pretty good at it!

Fixed! hehe

These quotes are form ELENATION. They are not any worse then what tommy o put up. I just like to add that most of ELE's replys were to tommy who made no comment of anyone specifically, but were directed towards religious people against abortions. Which many prolifers on here prclaim doesn't include them!

Why you keep saying gadgetlady? He didn't even mention her name. However he did mention ELENATION who, sory for repeating this, was acting like a parrot. She was stroking everyone that was pro life while calling the pro choice people quote "rude and nasty". She also, told me I had more then just the words "church goer" to go to confession with. Then goes on to say how wonderful all the other people are which is the point tommy O was trying to make. Gadgetlady, had for the most part been very civil, except for the one comment she apologized for. And Tommy O didn't mention her in this post.

Its ok to say anything you want Tommy. Jesus will just forgive you the next morning. Well, unless your talking about pro choice opinions. You will burn for that one.

Its not the law. Its a measurable way to tell big people that they are too big for the seat. Its a "policy" not a "law". I support that policy because then you don't have any questions about who can and cannot sit in just one seat.

How i built up was on the treadmill. I started with brisk walking for 60 minutes at 3mph. Thats 3 miles a day. Then, I added to the speed slowley every couple of weeks. You will be running 5 miles a day in no time.

Especially since you will have to update it monthly from now on. Also, can you do seasonal pictures? Like for march you need to wear green, santa suit in december, and bikini in the summer!

Basically, in this situation as with handicap people, and people with larger then normal carry-ons they do a quick once over for any of these things. Its alot easier to handle it before they get on the plane then after. If somone stopped me I wouldn't mind at all. I would politely say "I've flown before and had no problem with belts or armests". I have no shame in how big I am. If I'm questioned about it I answer. Just like any other person in a unique position.

Where in the law does it say airlines need to seat you? And you don't know me! I travel 10-12 times year for business alone. I am lucky enough to not be shaped to have spill over but I get looks. And you got your money back for the second seat when you lossed it. Airlines over book, but again its to squeak as much cash as they can out of the system they are limited to. I don't want to hear about rights you THINK you have. This is what you have a right to: To a 16" seat just like everyone else Buy a larger seat if you can afford it Make the insurance payment to reserve your seat for some arilines Only book with airlines you can be guarantee the seat you want. If you don't want to do that then fine, but do;t hold up my plane because you can't do any planning or cannot buy a ticket unless its through priceline then bitch about not getting the seat you want. Don't fly at all. My god there are plenty of airlines out there that have bigger seats. But of course, your special and want EVERY airline to be the same. Thanks, but no thanks. I'll take my tight seat and my $150 plane ticket. The only discrimination going on here is discriminating against the airlines. Because its so easy since everyone hates them anyways. Hmmmm, wonder if thats the same reasoning obese people are discriminated against?

Except its the attendants job to look out for a trouble BEFORE they get on the plane. Everything takes longer and harder to fix when your on the plane playing musical chairs with seats. Is it wrong to ask me if I won't be able to sit in a regular seat with my cast? Is it wrong to ask a man in a wheel chair if he needs to be in a front seat? Is it wrong to tell that person with 300lb carry on that she will have to check it in. Obesity is like any other handicap, and when you complain that a service is acknowledging that handicap then you are only embarrassing yourself. Some obese people need to get off their "oh poor me, don't talk about my weight" mentality and maybe they will be confident enough to fix their disability. Wish a blind man or quadriplegic had that choice.

On another note, airlines have to work around weather and breakdowns of not only the directly affected flight but all flights that connect some how to that one. It would be stupid for a airline to write a contract stating they will accomdate everyone all the time everytime cause it couldn't happen. Weather delays and breakdowns happen enough that it would sink any airline who had to reimburse everyone for it. But again, if you want more from your airline, you will either have to actually shop for a good airline and maybe even pay their "insurance" fee's instead of just looking on expedia for the lowest price.

I don't work for the airlines. And my friend says he never has problems wherever he goes. I fly with him once a year so I am guessing he isn't lying cause he got the bulkhead evertime. He did however say that sometimes he has to pay a little fee to reserver that seat depending on what carrier he is useing then. I am trying not to defend the airlines for their poor busines decisions. But aircraft makers spend alot of R&D on three aspects of commerical airplanes: Space saving, fuel effeciency, and low maintenance. That one or two seats you want to "turn" into bigger seats would cost the airlines hundreds of thousands of dollars PER PLANE.

They are called first class seats. Even if they did do that, why should someone else get more room then me when I paid the same price? Also, I would be even more embarrassed if I had to sit in the "fat" seats while everyone else passed me by. I have a friend that goes to Vegas with me every year. He is 6'4" and never had a problem getting front row seats for leg space. NEVER! They don't change the contract, if they did you could get your money back. Any change they do to your seating or flight schedule IS covered in the contract. So they don't change the contract.

Ya and if we double the size of the seats you might as well double the ticket prices too. Do you really think if it didn't cost much the airlines wouldn't just make lazy-boys recliners for all passengers? This just amazes me. Why are you "ENTITLED" for a privatley owned company to cart your butt around? In fact, most airlines give discounts and actually seen free tickets for someone who needs to make a funeral. Your not entitled to nothing but whats on that contract when you buy your ticket.

Actually this is the least crazy story I heard from fundamentalist christians. And welcome back! Was getting stuffy in here when you left.

Though I agree with you they shouldn't have talked to your sister right in front of everyone, they have to ask her those questions then. Like Wheetsin said, if she couldn't get the armrests down she would ahve been forced to get another ticket. Imagine what would happen if she sat down and couldn't get the armrests down. The staff wouldn't be able to know that till everyone is in the plane and they check everyone's seating. They would then (in front of everyone) notice she couldn't fit and tell her so, then and there. Now, not only is everyone hearing she is too big for the seat, but now people are upset cause she is holding things up. This always gets me about some obese people. First they say I have a disease, or mental problem, or something else medical that makes them big. Fine, being obese would be a handicap, which is true since you can't do somethings a normal person can do. So why can't airlines and others treat you like they do any other handicapped person? Is your handicap worse then others? When I broke my leg and had a cast, was it wrong for them to ask me in line if I needed an front seat cause my leg wouldn't bend? Obese people can't have it both ways. I just don't see how this is discimination.