jane13

Wow.....Clearly I have not been on as much lately because I missed all the fun. I could not help myself, I read every post.
But then again, it is always entertaining to see the responses to a rant. If you dont want drama stay the hell out of the rants and raves section. LOL
Thanks Lipstick for making it interesting!

@@WLSResources/ClothingExch
I like the ones who send up prayers, scream bully, all while
Iiking the posts of those who name call the people they clearly dislike. Funny that.

I'm so glad I found the rant and raves section of this forum. I hope to be able to post my own rant or rave eventually.

I heard all that 5 years ago and it's still a hot topic. I just think if people want to do that to their body then let them. In 6 months they will have lost 5lbs and their drs will be ticked off and they will be in tears wondering why. I stayed on my diet program 100% until I was 1 year out and was getting too thin. BUT (big but here) I slowly started eating a bite of bread here, some ice cream there and about 2 years ago I started gaining again so here I am re-affirming my intentions to get that 25 lbs off before it brings 10 more friends and so on. I've gone up a size and that was all it took for me to realize I needed to get back on plan. If you don't start out on plan you will never get the weight off to even know how great you can look..

I know, right?!
Ever heard the saying "Thou protest too much?"
Yeah. They LOVE it.

@@Babbs
I love how people that hate drama are always the most dramatic. Irony.

And yet here you are, in this very thread to exclaim your distaste for "OMG DRAMA". Your concern is duly noted.

I'd like to throw in my two cents also and say that I too owe a lot to @@LipstickLady for my success so far. I mean, why wouldn't I listen to the advice of someone who lost all their weight AND has managed to keep it off? I would have been crazy not to!
Oh, and she's actually a pretty nice person, too. I know that's hard for some people to believe.

Oh no, she's taken her ball home, whatever shall we do?????? "When all is said and done, usually more has been said than done. "

I was also a bit confused on the "drama" .... I thought we were cracking jokes about fries??? I need some reality checks and laughs to get through this. [emoji173]

@@Lipstick I have learned so much from you on this journey and though I am not vocal myself you daily give wise advice! Same goes for many of the vets. I am frankly tired of everyone that picks on the vets! It is getting ridiculous! Then they Accuse them of being bullies when they give sound advice. Keep doing what your doing and ignore the haters!

Really the only time I give a rats patootie anymore about what someone is eating post op is when they are early out and can actually injure themselves. Yeah, I'm going to say something whether they like it or not just to try to make them understand that bodily injury can occur before they're fully healed.
Otherwise, have at it. Eat whatever you want if it works for you. And if it doesn't, then who am I to tell someone they weren't ready for the surgery? I'm sure they themselves already know.
Me? I was ready. And I'm totally willing to throw a little advice someone's way if they show they are, too. Usually the ones who can take a little constructive criticism, are thirsty for knowledge, don't think they already know it all (because who does?), and open to different advice without getting completely defensive are the ones who are ready for the changes that need to happen with the surgery. They don't want validation, just information.

but but but

It's like the mindset that everyone has to have a trophy for just showing up. Instead of winning. Giving it your all with the best of your talent is wonderful, and we are all good at different things. But to feel we must be rewarded for everything and unaccountable for little is nuts. My rant. Sent from my XT1096 using the BariatricPal App

@@LipstickLady you have always managed to bring a smile to me face, and continue to do so. I love your style!

So, I've been a "lurker" as someone put it for the past couple of months...going through pre-op approval (psychological testing in a certified mental institution and all), the joys of getting a surgery date, having my surgery moved up more than a month (to the point where I had the choice to start my two week pre-op diet 12 hours later or postpone-I picked the former option ) to the realities of surgery and being in the hospital (first time ever) to the more-painful-than-expected recovery, to the questions and questions and questions. And now, still so new (surgery was 9/7) to all of this, but finally feeling compelled to contribute and not just read along.
I can honestly not even put into words how much gratitude I feel towards everyone on this app. This process is undoubtedly exciting, but it's also full of so so so many unknowns. It's been a comfort to have the ability to come here and see what others are going through, hear from those who have reached their goals, see the pride and support in the progress photos and have my own questions answered instead of needing to call my surgeon every.single.day. for the first week (excessive nausea-normal? My eyesight is strange-is this temporary? I have an indentation in my stomach-is this a sign of something bad? I can't get more than 4 oz of Protein in one sitting-am I going to be ok? My pain is terrible-how long will it last? Etc etc etc)
I've used this site for everything-answers to my questions (thanks so much for the Nioxin recommend ps!), educating myself on what I can expect (stalls, I'm ready for you!), sharing in successes (albeit silently) and also learning what NOT to do. Some of it may seem so obvious (eating macaroni three days out) but some are honest mistakes that help us learn from one another and become our best selves.
Long story short, I appreciate every post on here for helping to make my experience better, and I look forward to eventually becoming one of those before/after success stories.
-Allison
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I ❤️ @@LipstickLady
That's all. Keep up the good work. You, @@Babbs & @@Dub are the reason I know what I'm doing & am still successful.
Thank you all.
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I agree - I needed the kick in the ass for another Protein Shake. I ask advice for help and other experiences, not coddling. I can call my Mommy for that (but that'd get me an ass whopping over the phone haha!)

@@cbonet No one was ridiculed in the posts this week and it was the same old crap - cheerleaders for doing what you want rather than following your Drs orders.

If any more successful people stop posting or detach we may as well hang it up! I don't want advice from someone who thinks it is okay to have a Big Mac the day before surgery. This is our lives we are talking about! If I eat a steak a week post-op - I want a kick in the ass! I don't want the "that's okay - nothing bad will happen - stop listening to the naysayers"! I am not going through this to risk my life for chicken fingers and fries! It's not even about those that messed up or "cheated" as much as it is about people telling them it's okay (and telling others that may be having trouble that they can do it too)! We've lost too many people who could really help us.

@@rolosmom7
I think some of the things that newbies or just other patients period post, are an education to me. I had to be able to drink Protein to be released from the hospital. The told me flat out they would not release me unless they were sure I could intake nutrition. I was able to meet my Protein goals from the time I was released from the hospital. Reading here I was very surprised to learn that people not only are released from the hospital not being able to drink Water or anything else, but that some people have instructions that tell them not to have any protein supplements at all, ever!
WHICH IS WHY PEOPLE NEED TO STOP COMPARING THEIR WEIGHT LOSS TO OTHER PEOPLE. There are a ton of people that post here that lost a ton of weight really fast because they were basically on a prisoner of war diet and they starved for weeks/months. Long term that is going to do them more damage than good, so yeah its awesome they lost 100 pounds in 4 months or whatever, but they aren't telling they went through to get there, just that they got there.

Agreed. There were some comments to me 2 or 3 days out of surgery when I asked about not feeling well and it was "get your protein!!" I was a little upset at the tone, obviously I'm trying and drinking Protein shakes, not Coke. But in the end, it's true. I need more Protein. Tough love

While my husband is not an asshat and is very encouraging and supportive of my decision to have WLS, his level of support ends at the dinner table, and actually even before that. He still comes home from work and immediately pours himself a glass of wine, he eats whatever he wants in front of me, and at less than 1 month out, he held up a bottle of wine and asked me if I was ready to have some.
I also have three family members who have all had WLS before me. While they have given me great advice about what to expect and what medications to have on hand (Gas-X, Miralax) their food choices are poor and the example they set is less than stellar.
My surgery was a line item exception on my insurance, so I had to self-pay and was not required to take any classes or participate in any pre-surgery diet. At my 2 week follow-up appt, my surgeon switched me from liquids to solid foods. When I asked him a specific question about food choices, he told me I was overthinking it.
While I agree with the initial rant and understand the frustration that caused it, many of us are on here because we literally do not have the support or knowledge necessary to make the best decisions. I am still learning and will listen and take advice. I may sometimes be offended by the tone, but I get over it, take what I need to from it and move on, hopefully better for the knowledge.
Thank you to the veterans who are so generous with their time and knowledge, and please be patient with those of us who are stumbling through this and asking you to help guide us (or sometimes pick us up)!

Well if you want to rant about WLS patients making really bad choices, you aren't going to rant about it on a makeup forum. This is the Rants and Raves section on a WLS forum so that is what it is going to be about.
You knew this was going to be a post about something you didn't want to read again, but you popped your ass in here and commented yet again. You are as much of a problem as the problem you are complaining about.
@@rolosmom7
You are very lucky, most people don't have that kind of family support and are married to asshats.

I don't think she likes me very much.
But I can guarantee you I can name EXACTLY who is going to come in her and "like" her post to me.