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Djmohr

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  1. Honestly...I have huge back problems and I do not take narcotics or medication for it at all because it really doesn't help.

    I use ice and heat, meditation, warm Water pools. Severe arthritis of the spine, many back surgeries.

    The only thing i do take is a muscle relaxer at bedtime or i would not sleep at all.

    I also use essential oils: Francinsense, Peppermint and copaiba. (They call it the morphine bomb) - It helps a little for me but most of my pain is coming from the nerves in my thoracic area and nothing really helps it. On 11/11 they are going to do intercostal nerve blocks and if it works, we will do nerve ablation.

    The best thing you can do is keep on moving as hard as that is. It used to be that bed rest was recommended and that actually made recovery worse for people in the long run.

    The whole back thing sucks bad....

    Sorry that you are in pain....there is nothing worse besides maybe a Migraine.< /p>


  2. Does your insurance not cover surgery here in the states? I ask because it would help you and your family to understand why bariatric surgery is necessary.

    Many times they dont get that not having the surgery could be even more dangerous than having it. Obesity is a metabolic disease that if treated properly can be cured.

    I know it was very important for my husband to go with me to my second appointment so that he understood why it was most critical.

    I had to take the time with my grown boys to also help them understand that without surgery I would likely fail to keep the weight off after losing it.

    Just take some time with them and help them understand your reasons for having surgery.

    As far as Mexico goes, that is a personal decision and I dont believe it is like Iraq for petes sake.

    That being said, for follow up reasons if you can have your surgery here in the US the better off you are. Just my opinion!


  3. I had RNY bypass two years ago. Honestly I have never second guessed myself, not before and not after. This was because I was very sick from being obese and I knew that I would not live a long full life.

    I am 5'10" and weighed 315 at my very heaviest. I carried my weight well but my body was breaking down. I had high BP, High cholesterol, sleep apnea, Severe gerd, diabetes and stage 3 kidney disease.

    I was told that I would soon be looking at kidney dialysis and then down the road a transplant. I also have psoriatic arthritis and severe osteo arthritis of the spine.

    Much of these diseases came on in my late 30's, early 40's and they were caused by being obese which is a metabolic disease. I lost over 100 pounds on my own many times and would gain it all right back.

    Since having surgery my diabetes, gerd, high bp, high cholesterol, sleep apnea is all gone. My stage 3 kidney disease has not progressed and is considered in remission.

    The bad news is, I should have done it sooner because I damaged my joints and am still dealing with back, neck and shoulder pain. Had i done this even 5 years sooner, it might have made a difference.

    The good news is, I feel fantastic! More awake, more alert and definitely happier!

    If I were you, I would think about what reasons you were considering bypass in the first place and stay focused on that. It might help you make a decision.

    Also, i would not move forward unless i was 100% sure because this is a huge life change and you have to be ready for it to be successful long term.


  4. I am just about to go through an abdominal-lastly, breast lift and augmentation. I have a lot of loose hanging skin and I am under my goal with a normal BMI.

    I have researched the heck out of plastics over the last 2 years and from what I understand you will not loose a lot of weight. You will lose inches and of course your tummy will be nice and tight.

    After childbirth it is difficult to get rid of the tummy, they just don't bounce back. If you are confident in your ability to keep the weight off, is it possible to drop some weight on your own before the Tummy Tuck?

    That would likely give you the best outcome. That is the route i would take vs. paying for the balloon.

    If you follow a high Protein, lower carb well balanced diet along with exercise...you should be able to drop some of that weight.

    Just my two cents.


  5. The trick in the beginning is to follow by measurement and go no further. Once you get to more solid foods you will get a better understanding and even indicators like a hiccup or a sneeze.

    Feeling full post op WLS is completely different than how you felt before surgery and it will take some getting used to.

    I would also say just because you can eat and eat does not mean you should. For RNY, you can literally cause yourself to vomit if you eat too much.


  6. The only thing that worked for me was literally holding the Water bottle in my hand and sipping every few seconds.

    for me my best chance of getting all my fluids is first thing in the am I start with a bottle of room temp spring Water. I sip and sip until the first bottle is gone. Then, I drink my Protein shake which gives me another 11oz. 30 minutes after that, I start with a second bottle of water so by noon/1pm I already have around 48 ounces. I have my lunch, wait an hour and sip another bottle of water, sometimes 2 between lunch and dinner.

    After dinner i slowly sip on more water but i really tone it down so i don't have to be up peeing all night. Holding the bottle in my hand ensures i will remember to sip.

    also, I never ever go anywhere without a bottle of water in my hand.

    I am easily able to get to 64 using this process. on the days i don't, i am lucky to get in 48 which is the minimum.

    Best of luck to you!


  7. @@shedo82773

    I would ask you how YOU feel about your appearance. The reason I ask is because many times we feel a certain way and then read more into comments than what is there.

    If you feel great about how you look, then that rubs off on others. If you yourself feel like you are too skinny that may be part of the problem.

    It takes a long time and sometimes we need help getting through such a significant change.

    You have been married a very long time. I am guessing your husband is thrilled that you are now healthy and if that means you are no longer thick, he will Love you regardless.

    We are all so hard on ourselves......Initially when some folks were telling me I was too skinny, it really did freak me out a litttle. It took some time for me to understand that they simply were not used to seeing us at a NORMAL size.

    My husband is obese and has always been comfortable with women who have some meat on their bones. For him, he is most excited about how I feel and because of that He is thrilled for me. On Halloween we will be married 29 years. I was obese 27 of those 29 years.

    The only bummer for both of us is how much loose skin there is but I decided I wanted in particular to have my breasts fixed. It is both for me and for him as that is always his favorite body part......LOL.

    I have always said, I would rather have the loose skin than the fat and the scars vs the loose skin.

    Anyway, my point is you might be overly critical of yourself and so you read more into comments made by others.

    I get the no butt thing all the time....but I actually find it rather funny.


  8. There are a couple of things I would say about this topic.

    - Prior to my weight loss people would look at me especially when i was either sitting on the airplane or coming down the aisle. It might have been me (LOl) but it always felt like they were saying a small prayer that they would not be sitting next to me. This never happens anymore.....in fact I can sit in a middle seat as comfortable as one might get in a middle seat.

    - The look i would get from a flight attendant when asking for a seatbelt extender......that never happens anymore.

    - My family treated me as if i could not do anything for myself and it drove me nuts and did not help my situation any. Now, i do get that they were always worried about me and it was meant with the best of intentions.

    - Now i get noticed. Sometimes that can be offputting like when i go to my local pro health club swimming. I am usually the youngest in the pool, usually the most slim and for some reason and the elderly gentlemen flirt with me. YES, they flirt with me. Once several of them backed me into the corner. And, every woman in the pool gave me the stink eye.

    It has happened a few times now and because of it, I have been avoiding the pool. I really need to get back there because swimming helps my joints and this is the only warm Water pool around.

    - People that have not seen me in some time are shocked and they stare alot until they get used to me.

    - My father n law and sons both think I am too skinny and are always telling me that. I dont mind that at all. They are just not used to the normal me.

    - My Dermatologist who is my favorite doc of all time, sees me every 10 weeks and is still shocked at how i look but in a good way. He saw me at my absolute worst. He literally once saved my life! So for him, he is absolutely thrilled at my weight loss. I owe alot of my current situation to him because he is the first doctor that gave me hope and it snowballed from there. I saw him yesterday and shared that I am getting my Tummy Tuck and breast lift with augmentation done in January and he was so excited for me.

    In terms of being treated differently.....I honestly don't think that has been the case. Most people who never knew me dont see anything different and therefore I am not treated any different. Its like I am not even there and that is ok with me.


  9. This is a false statement.

    I ate Protein up the wazoo (80 grams a day) and still lost hair. It's a combination of several things to do with the surgery, and almost impossible to prevent.

    False statement? I hate to sound mean, but you have a reading comprehension problem. I never said there weren't other causes, I just mentioned that a lack of Protein can cause problems. Instead of calling me a liar, you might do some web searches on the subject of Hair loss and protein. How your body reacts to surgery relates to your case, but their are others who would have done better had they followed the recommended diet plans.

    No where did she call you a liar.....at least I certainly did not see it or read it.

    you have to remember that many many people read these posts. The concern is that they get all of the information and your statement only gave a small portion of the picture.

    Also.....There are many on this board that would argue about getting 70 grams of protein from the very beginning. 1 shake in a day can give you 30 grams all by itself. And yes, dense meats will give you great protein but so will Beans, greek yogurt, cottage cheese, luncheon meat, etc.....

    Maybe the first week or two is difficult but after that you should be able to get to your goal every day.

    Not getting your protein should not be the reason your hair falls out. there are several other reasons or any combination of them that can cause this.

    I am just trying to clear this up for people who may not know or understand. I know there are alot because the hair issue comes up several times a week and there are probably 1000's of posts on the subject.


  10. @@labwalker

    hair loss is often caused by a lack of adequate protein! It is hard to keep Protein above 70 grams a day on low calorie diets unless one eats a lot of turkey, chicken or fish.

    This is simply NOT true. I know this because i hit my Protein goals from the beginning, had my nutritional panel tested and was perfect. I lost 2/3 of my hair volume and saw several doctors who told me the following:

    1. Some people react to surgery by loss of hair (I am NOT one of them, have had more than 10 surgeries in my life and never lost my hair) - it got dull but never fell out

    2. Massive weight loss can cause Hair loss and the hair loss will not stop until the massive weight loss slows down - This is exactly what happened to me according to several physicians

    3. You can see some hair loss if you are not getting proper nutrition including protein.

    4. If you are going through menopause, this can add to the hair loss issue - I am going through menopause

    Everyone is different.....for me the good news was all of my hair came back, i swear it is even thicker than it was before and my hair was quite thick and my hair came in very very curly.

    My hair started falling out around the 3 month post op and progressively got worse as time went on. It stopped at around 13 months post op but the whole time new hair was growing in as well.

    Please do your research and understand there are many things happening to your body at once. You may or may not experience this. If you do, dont freak out.....your hair will grow back. Also know as long as you are getting proper nutrition, there really is nothing you can do to stop it from falling out. You can take Biotin which might help with regrowth. (i am not conviced of that nor are the physicians i spoke to.)


  11. I do find that snacking leads to stalls and or weight gain for me. I have to be very careful because I also get reactive hypoglycemia so i pretty much eat very small meals all day long. That is a slippery slope and can feel much like grazing which is the worst thing i can do.

    Early on while in weight loss mode my nut had me drink milk for a snack. it gives you added Protein, turns to a solid keeping you full for quite a while. And.....best of all you can add different types of tea to it. My favorite all time snack especially in the winter is chocolate chai tea. I use the loose tea version from teavanna and steep it for 3 minutes.

    It is especially delicious, hits the spot with NO added sugar other than what is in the milk. I use lactaid because i still have a lactose intolerance.

    If i dont have that, i will eat full fat cheese, pepperoni, shrimp, almonds and sometimes bariatric pal hot chocolate or bariatric pal vanilla capacciono.


  12. Everyones body adjusts along the way. Most surgeons provide a approved diet that goes up in quantity as time passes.

    For me from about 1 - 3 months it was 1/4cup of food which filled me up completely. I remember i could use one yogurt for 3 meals.

    Then around 3-7 months it was 1/2 cup and again, that kept me very full for many hours if i was eating the right things.

    from 7 months on i was approved to eat about 1 cup of food. Now it really all depends on what your eating. I can eat 1 1/2 cups of salad depending on what Protein i add on top. It might be less if it is dense chicken breast.

    It is normal but i would not advance it until you are told it is ok to do so.

    I think the most i can eat now is about 1 cup of dense foods and 1 1/2 cups of things like salad.< /p>

    Also, you will find slider foods......for me things like pudding and yogurt will fill me up but empty from my pouch very quickly making me hungry again sooner. I find this is true of some broth like Soups. But stews with dense Protein like beef or chicken and veggies wills stay with me for hours.

    It is usually my head telling me i am hungry long before my tummy does.


  13. Spoken to several doctors on this issue because I lost 2/3 of my hair volume. I was never Vitamin deficient and got my Protein up in the first few weeks post op.

    Some people simply react to the stress of surgery and the stress of massive weight loss so fast.

    For me, it began at what i thought was alot around 2 months post op and got heavier and heavier. I swore i though i would lose all my hair.< /p>

    My doctors, every single one of them told me that I would stop shedding my hair when the massive weight loss tapered off. For me, that was 13 months post op. My hair was thin, but i still had hair. It did not cause bald Patches, it just shed from everywhere.

    I took Biotin but am not convinced it really did anything for regrowth as they claim.

    the good news, my hair was coming in while i was still losing it. I used to have very thick dark hair with nice body. Now, I have even thicker, very curly hair. Yes, my hair went so curly that even my stylist is shocked. She said she has seen it happen with cancer patients but never ever so quickly.

    I have had to learn how to deal with very curly hair. In the beginning i would straighten it but honestly that is such a pain and it never really gets straight unless it is round brushed by a stylist.

    So, now I wear it curly and everyone is getting used to it. It is beautiful, shiny and curly and probably more healthy than it has ever been. you no longer see my scalp at all.


  14. Amen.....

    So many people just really really dont friggin get it at all. They dont realize the short period of time they have to get their behaviors in order.

    They dont get that this is not about a short term diet, it is about a whole new way to live your life.

    Just today someone posted about getting home from the hospital, craving chocolate so they ate it. One day out......never mind you could cause serious harm but if that person doesnt understand "the article" they will never take the time to learn what actually needs to change for their long term benefit.

    Maintenance in my opinion is sooooooo much harder than the weight loss phase.

    1. The incentive of getting on the scale and watching the numbers go down is no longer there, now you just hope they dont go up

    2. You have to find your sweet spot when it comes to your nutrition so you are not losing and not gaining....not easy!

    3. Once you do screw up and go off plan for a few days it really is hard to get back on the right path. To me it sometimes feels harder than when i did it the first time.

    I used to live to eat, now, I eat to live. Dont get me wrong i really still enjoy food and wine. We just have to learn how to live normally and indulge once in a while. And even then our indulging has changed. I know what I call indulging is not what it was when i weighed 310lbs.

    Indulging to me is having a glass or two of wine with dinner.....a rule i normally never break. Or having a piece of dark chocolate once in a while.


  15. This is that time post op when everything begins to change. Firstly the first 6 months portions change from 1/2 cup to more like 3/4 to a full cup.

    In addition you begin to recognize slider foods.

    I am two years post op and usually consume 1 cup to 1 1/2 cups of food depending on what I am eating. I can eat more salad than meat but meat keeps me fuller longer even though i eat less of it.

    The things that fill me up and keep me full longest is:

    Full fat cheese

    lunch meats

    Dense meat like chicken breast and fish

    Nuts - however just a 1/4 cup and no more

    Cottage cheese

    Raw veggies and full fat ranch dip

    salad with Protein on top like chicken or cottage cheese

    Foods that seem to slip right through

    Yogurt

    Protein shakes

    Any carb items that I shouldn't have anyway and try to avoid

    pudding

    Every once in a while I have a bowl of Cereal and talk about being hungry again in 20 minutes.....i keep that to maybe once a week if that.


  16. Beware.....scolding in progress.

    Here's the thing, you just had major surgery on your stomach. No matter how bad the head hunger is, do you really think eating chocolate at all is wise a few days after surgery? I am guessing your answer is no or you would not be on here in scared mode.

    Honestly you should be scared. You should pick up the phone and immediately call your therapist. Having WLS is 90% head, 10% if that surgery. You can eat around your surgery from day one. and if you do, why bother going through all the pre work and pain?

    That is called self destruction and you need to get a handle on it now.

    For me, sugars cravings have never gone away. I have had to learn to deal with this. Sometimes you give in and have something but never ever just when you get home from the hospital.

    Lastly I would say that baby food does not have the nutrition that homemade prepared purees have. Not to mention they taste like crap unless you are eating all the fruits which have carbs in them.

    Why not simply make some of your own purees, eat greek yogurt, cottage cheese, Protein shakes, ricotta bake. There are a ton of bariatric friendly pureed stage options available on pinterest.

    I really wish you the best but you are definately going to need some help to get your head hunger under control. When those cravings come up the best thing you can do is try to get your mind off of it. Firstly, you cannot possibly be feeling real hunger at this stage.

    Dehydration mimics hunger for us. So if you feel it keep sipping your approved liquids until that feeling goes away. If you have met your liquid goals and still feel that way, you are likely feeling some reflux if you are a sleeve patient.

    If not those two things it is definately head hunger and you need some coping mechanisms. I use distraction techniques....go wash dishes, do some laundry, take a shower, do something with your hands like crafts - knitting, crocheting....etc. get your mind off of food. Lastly do NOT watch food porn shows or commercials, they can make head hunger terrible.

    Go see a therapist they will provide lost of techniques and get at the bottom of why you are already self sabotaging.

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