Dabliss111114

I know I'm probably going to be preaching to the choir but here goes.
I too am on my way to a much healthier life filled with compliments and praises from people who see the difference. They don't see the loose skin or the jiggle of the fat that still needs to be lost. Exercise helps with muscle tone and strength, but fat will only break down so fast, and not overnight. It's ok by me because I know that in the end I'll not only look better/different, but will be healthier than I've been in nearly 20 yrs.
We're left with yet another physical issue to contend with....all the extra skin, and how it can also have a huge impact on how we view ourselves. Don't get me wrong I'm thrilled beyond belief to have had the opportunity to have my surgery, and that so many strides have been made in the area of obesity in general.
Here's my issue..... Insurance companies have finally gotten to a point where they'll pay for the WLS but still lag behind in agreeing to cover the surgery needed to complete the process of our transformations. Right now plastics is only covered if it can be proven that there's a "medical" reason for having it such as infection or pain. I wonder about how many WLS patients have just as much emotional pain as they did before surgery because of the residual skin and the inability to get past how it may affect their lives. If the goal is to promote good health in general, where does mental and emotional health come into play? Surely the majority of patients that look into having plastics done aren't doing it because of vanity!!!
I remember years ago when having varicose vein surgery was considered "cosmetic" and also not covered by insurance. Now just about every procedure involving spider and varicose veins is covered. Women all over that have a tiny blue vein around an ankle or behind a knee are running to surgeons to get them fixed, and insurance pays for it. Am I wrong to think that WLS if far more deserving of a plastic surgery procedure that is made necessary because of a medically necessary WLS????
Just wondering....

You and me both. I had RNY in Nov. 2014 and I'm 62. I'm down 75 pounds and feel better than I have in almost 20 years. I plan to rock all the fantastic clothes that I've been deprived of wearing for way too many years. Chico's here I come!!!

I know I'm probably going to be preaching to the choir but here goes.
I too am on my way to a much healthier life filled with compliments and praises from people who see the difference. They don't see the loose skin or the jiggle of the fat that still needs to be lost. Exercise helps with muscle tone and strength, but fat will only break down so fast, and not overnight. It's ok by me because I know that in the end I'll not only look better/different, but will be healthier than I've been in nearly 20 yrs.
We're left with yet another physical issue to contend with....all the extra skin, and how it can also have a huge impact on how we view ourselves. Don't get me wrong I'm thrilled beyond belief to have had the opportunity to have my surgery, and that so many strides have been made in the area of obesity in general.
Here's my issue..... Insurance companies have finally gotten to a point where they'll pay for the WLS but still lag behind in agreeing to cover the surgery needed to complete the process of our transformations. Right now plastics is only covered if it can be proven that there's a "medical" reason for having it such as infection or pain. I wonder about how many WLS patients have just as much emotional pain as they did before surgery because of the residual skin and the inability to get past how it may affect their lives. If the goal is to promote good health in general, where does mental and emotional health come into play? Surely the majority of patients that look into having plastics done aren't doing it because of vanity!!!
I remember years ago when having varicose vein surgery was considered "cosmetic" and also not covered by insurance. Now just about every procedure involving spider and varicose veins is covered. Women all over that have a tiny blue vein around an ankle or behind a knee are running to surgeons to get them fixed, and insurance pays for it. Am I wrong to think that WLS if far more deserving of a plastic surgery procedure that is made necessary because of a medically necessary WLS????
Just wondering....

I know I'm probably going to be preaching to the choir but here goes.
I too am on my way to a much healthier life filled with compliments and praises from people who see the difference. They don't see the loose skin or the jiggle of the fat that still needs to be lost. Exercise helps with muscle tone and strength, but fat will only break down so fast, and not overnight. It's ok by me because I know that in the end I'll not only look better/different, but will be healthier than I've been in nearly 20 yrs.
We're left with yet another physical issue to contend with....all the extra skin, and how it can also have a huge impact on how we view ourselves. Don't get me wrong I'm thrilled beyond belief to have had the opportunity to have my surgery, and that so many strides have been made in the area of obesity in general.
Here's my issue..... Insurance companies have finally gotten to a point where they'll pay for the WLS but still lag behind in agreeing to cover the surgery needed to complete the process of our transformations. Right now plastics is only covered if it can be proven that there's a "medical" reason for having it such as infection or pain. I wonder about how many WLS patients have just as much emotional pain as they did before surgery because of the residual skin and the inability to get past how it may affect their lives. If the goal is to promote good health in general, where does mental and emotional health come into play? Surely the majority of patients that look into having plastics done aren't doing it because of vanity!!!
I remember years ago when having varicose vein surgery was considered "cosmetic" and also not covered by insurance. Now just about every procedure involving spider and varicose veins is covered. Women all over that have a tiny blue vein around an ankle or behind a knee are running to surgeons to get them fixed, and insurance pays for it. Am I wrong to think that WLS if far more deserving of a plastic surgery procedure that is made necessary because of a medically necessary WLS????
Just wondering....

I just bought the Special K Protein Cereal in the Cinnamon Crunch flavor and have about 3/4 cup with a little light almond milk. It's real crunchy and tastes great. One serving has 7gms. of Protein. They're great for a little snack when you need one too.
I also buy the weight control Quaker oatmeal. It has 7 gms. of protein too. I've added a little unflavored Protein powder to it too.

Here's a good one for everyone....
Today I saw someone I haven't seen for several months and all she could say at first after she finally figured out who I was was "Oh my God", Oh my God". then she got real close and whispered..."Did you have a facelift? You look 20 yrs younger than the last time I saw you". I told her that I hadn't and she backed up, looked at me and asked if I had gone in for a total body lift. I told her no, but that I may have one next year. She kept saying "Oh my God" until I thought I'd crack up laughing.
Really????? I happy she and others think I look younger, because at my age looking younger is ALWAYS a plus, but a simple compliment would have been enough. Other people heard her, and instead of feeling good about her noticing the change I found myself feeling totally self conscious.
Good thing she'll never have the chance to see me naked....

I know I'm probably going to be preaching to the choir but here goes.



I know I'm on my way to a much healthier life filled with compliments and praises from people who see the difference. I so happy that I made the decision to have my surgery and dealing with the skin issues afterward is something I'll address after I reach my goal. What most people don't see or even know is that we even have the loose skin or the jiggle of the fat that still needs to be lost. Exercise helps with muscle tone and strength, but fat will only break down so fast, and not overnight. It's ok by me because I know that in the end I'll not only look better/different, but will be healthier than I've been in nearly 20 yrs.



I think so many of us could be left with yet another issue to contend with because of all the extra skin, and how it can have a huge impact on how we view ourselves even after the dramatic accomplishment. Don't get me wrong I'm thrilled beyond belief to have had the opportunity to have my surgery, and that so many strides have been made in the area of obesity in general.



Here's my issue..... Insurance companies have finally gotten to a point where they'll pay for the WLS but still lag behind in agreeing to cover the surgery needed to complete the process of our transformations. Right now plastics is only covered if it can be proven that there's a "medical" reason for having it such as infection or pain. At least this is the way I understand it to be. I wonder about how many WLS patients have just as much emotional pain as they did before surgery because of the residual skin and the inability to get past how it may affect their lives. If the goal is to promote good health in general, where does mental and emotional health come into play? Surely the majority of patients that look into having plastics done aren't doing it because of vanity!!! With the extra skin clothes may not fit the way the patient envisioned they would, or it has an impact on their intimate life, or they continue to have self esteem issues. With all that being said I've been wondering if and when the insurance companies will come around and finally help with the cost of the procedures that WLS patients may need after they reach their weight loss goals.



I remember years ago when having varicose vein surgery was considered "cosmetic" and also not covered by insurance. Now just about every procedure involving spider and varicose veins is covered by most insurances either partially or completely depending on the plan. Women all over that have a tiny blue vein around an ankle or behind a knee are running to surgeons to get them fixed, and insurance pays for it.



Am I wrong to think that the WLS patient is extremely deserving of a plastic surgery procedure that may be necessary because of the dramatic results of their surgeries.

Just wondering....

I'm so sorry to hear about your husband and want you to know that you have warm thoughts and prayers coming to you from N. Carolina.
Try to take care of yourself as best you can so you can be the rock your husband will need through all of this. We'll all be here for you as time goes on. Keep us posted.
Hugs,

Here's a good one for everyone....
Today I saw someone I haven't seen for several months and all she could say at first after she finally figured out who I was was "Oh my God", Oh my God". then she got real close and whispered..."Did you have a facelift? You look 20 yrs younger than the last time I saw you". I told her that I hadn't and she backed up, looked at me and asked if I had gone in for a total body lift. I told her no, but that I may have one next year. She kept saying "Oh my God" until I thought I'd crack up laughing.
Really????? I happy she and others think I look younger, because at my age looking younger is ALWAYS a plus, but a simple compliment would have been enough. Other people heard her, and instead of feeling good about her noticing the change I found myself feeling totally self conscious.
Good thing she'll never have the chance to see me naked....

You are an inspiration..... Don't let the dog out>>>> You know, like the song.. hang tough with the dog and the docs. You can do it!!!

@@CanyonBaby
I've been out of the loop over the past several weeks tying up loose ends after my father in law's death, and dealing with some behavior issues my mom is having due to her Alzheimer's but you and Dave have been in my thoughts.
I'm glad the chem has started and that Dave is tolerating it fairly well. Having you as his support person is a blessing. I hope you're at least trying to get enough sleep so that you don't get too exhausted and worn out. Like I said before....you'll be little or no good for Dave if you don't take care of you too.
From reading your updates I want you to know that I am in awe of your strength and positive outlook on things. I believe that's half the battle. You obviously are a very strong woman and there's a special place in heaven for people like you. Dave is a lucky man.
Continue to hold on to your faith, and know that you have tons of folks praying for you every day.
By the way..... to hell with the insurance companies....what do they know..... besides, it's not like they don't have enough money to cover your claims. You just keep doing what you're doing and the paperwork will all sort itself out. Just make sure Dave gets every test and every treatment he needs to have to fight this thing.
Hugs.
Deb

You are an inspiration..... Don't let the dog out>>>> You know, like the song.. hang tough with the dog and the docs. You can do it!!!

@@CanyonBaby
I've been out of the loop over the past several weeks tying up loose ends after my father in law's death, and dealing with some behavior issues my mom is having due to her Alzheimer's but you and Dave have been in my thoughts.
I'm glad the chem has started and that Dave is tolerating it fairly well. Having you as his support person is a blessing. I hope you're at least trying to get enough sleep so that you don't get too exhausted and worn out. Like I said before....you'll be little or no good for Dave if you don't take care of you too.
From reading your updates I want you to know that I am in awe of your strength and positive outlook on things. I believe that's half the battle. You obviously are a very strong woman and there's a special place in heaven for people like you. Dave is a lucky man.
Continue to hold on to your faith, and know that you have tons of folks praying for you every day.
By the way..... to hell with the insurance companies....what do they know..... besides, it's not like they don't have enough money to cover your claims. You just keep doing what you're doing and the paperwork will all sort itself out. Just make sure Dave gets every test and every treatment he needs to have to fight this thing.
Hugs.
Deb

@@Dabliss111114
You are far too kind...if you would have seen me today deal with an unruly dog, you would shudder! He (dog) has been testing my dominance, and "momma" had to put her foot down! His being almost 100lbs deems it necessary for me to be "top dog"!!!!
Dave had his second chemo today, and once again, the pump was put on for him to carry with him for the next 3 days. It will come out on Thursday afternoon. He is doing a lot better than when he had the first round, I think the nerves have settled a bit, and as he gets used to what is happening and knows now what to expect, I think some of the side effects that have been suggested to him have been relegated as "suggestive", and that's all they are. You know, the power of suggestion. Suggest something and all of a sudden it is "real". Now he recognizes what is really affecting him, and what has just been suggested is not affecting him like he thought it might. Does that make any sense? It just has to sort itself out in his mind, what is real and what isn't. He is extremely practical, so it is sorting itself out with time.
HIs blood counts are good, and he isn't anemic. Still trying to get approval for the PET scan, no luck yet. I called the surgeon's office to try and get him on board, to try and get a peer-to-peer going, so I hope that will work. The oncologist did one, to no avail. So maybe if the guy who actually saw the cancers does it, maybe they will "get it". Regardless, we WILL have the scan, and then, if it is as bad as the surgeon thinks it is, I will see to it heads WILL roll!!!! Time is of the essence here, and "momma" is mad! I personally am hoping the surgeon was wrong, and there isn't any other cancer other than the
original tumor on the colon. And even then, I hope IT isn't cancerous, either! I have high hopes in my good Lord above, and know ANYTHING is possible with Him in charge!
Your prayers are all appreciated, and felt, and I truly believe they are the reason Dave is doing so well with all of the chemo. I cannot thank you all enough, but I thank God for each and everyone of you! God Bless......

@@CanyonBaby
I've been out of the loop over the past several weeks tying up loose ends after my father in law's death, and dealing with some behavior issues my mom is having due to her Alzheimer's but you and Dave have been in my thoughts.
I'm glad the chem has started and that Dave is tolerating it fairly well. Having you as his support person is a blessing. I hope you're at least trying to get enough sleep so that you don't get too exhausted and worn out. Like I said before....you'll be little or no good for Dave if you don't take care of you too.
From reading your updates I want you to know that I am in awe of your strength and positive outlook on things. I believe that's half the battle. You obviously are a very strong woman and there's a special place in heaven for people like you. Dave is a lucky man.
Continue to hold on to your faith, and know that you have tons of folks praying for you every day.
By the way..... to hell with the insurance companies....what do they know..... besides, it's not like they don't have enough money to cover your claims. You just keep doing what you're doing and the paperwork will all sort itself out. Just make sure Dave gets every test and every treatment he needs to have to fight this thing.
Hugs.
Deb

@@CanyonBaby
Such wisdom! Thanks for the reminder not to borrow tomorrow's troubles/ worries. Still praying here.

CanyonBaby:
One thing learned, that will help ALL who heed: Take each day by itself. Don't bring on tomorrow's problems onto today's shoulders. Today is only equipped to handle TODAY. Don't worry about tomorrow, it will take care of itself. It tells us this in the Bible, and it is TRUE. Yes, I can worry about how long Dave will live, how much suffering we will ALL encounter, the worries of all that is to come....but it doesn't help. I have found that if, indeed, all I focus on is what is for THIS day, I CAN deal with THIS day. So I try not to think too much on the tomorrows. I still plan for the appointments....but I don't FOCUS on them.
Staying with this plan of day-to-day living helps me deal with the sadness and other emotions of cancer. I don't HAVE to be sad today, I'll save that for when the day IS sad. I don't NEED to be ANGRY today, it is a beautiful, fresh day with no bad things presenting themselves to me at the moment. Dave is happily patrolling with his boss, I am going into the garden to plant, laundry will be hanging on the line, chicken will be roasting in the oven.
One moment, one day at a time. Enjoy it with me.....
Thanks for that wonderful insightful post. Praying for you and hubby.

Newest update: Dave had his chemo port put in today, with no issues. He begins chemo on Tuesday. It will be 3 treatments for 3 days, then 11 days off for recovery, for a total of 6 sets. Sometime during that time-frame, he will be carrying treatments with him, constantly being infused. Then, if it does what it is supposed to do, he will undergo yet another attempt at surgery, to remove the tumor on the colon, plus any cancerous areas within the abdominal cavity.....
He will have a PET scan this coming week to try and determine where the other cancers are located, then they can "aim" the chemo treatments and radiation at those. While he undergoes the surgery, they will use radiation while he is opened, to "kill" the cancer that is unseen by the human eye. I am learning SOOOO much about this! This type of surgery is done by ONLY ONE surgeon in the U.S., and ONLY BY THE GRACE OF GOD HIMSELF, this man is located in our area of Spokane, WA!!!!!!!! Coincidence? I just DON'T think so!
Then he will undergo 3 more months of chemo, to kill what may be left of the cancer. So a VERY long road, a VERY trying time to come. I'm in it for the long haul, because this is very promising. And I KINDA like my guy!!!!! We have hope, and for that I am eternally grateful.
Because of Dave's health (great-other than cancer!!!) and physical fitness (great) and age (a YOUNG 53!!!!), he has a lot going for him with this plan.
Today we started the fight. And with the POWER, GRACE, and LOVE of our MIGHTY Lord Jesus, we will fight the good fight! With all of you prayers, we are stronger than ever. Did you know we have folks from ALL over the country weighing in on this fight?!!!!!! I cannot. CANNOT thank you all enough for what you are doing, I am sincerely HUMBLED. I am sincerely GRATEFUL. AND. I love you all! Bless you, people!

Oh, and here is the other thing. I had NO expectations of what I would look like when i got to goal. I was very very focused on health, physical ability and life enjoyment. I strongly encourage you to put your focus the same way becasue life is too damn short to worry about every lilttle nitpicky flaw.
I did have skin removeal/reconstructive plastics and am THRILLED with my results. I have observed that people who make peace with their bodies are always much happier (without plastics or post plastics even) because the mind is actually harder to change than the body quite frankly...

Ditto on the clingy knits that only emphasize our problem spots.
Also, when will they realize that not every large woman is 6ft. tall and the same width from the shoulders all the way down to her knees? Large sized petites are nearly impossible to find, and if you do it's only in pants. I HATE tops that are always so long they look like a tunic instead of just a top.....especially when my butt is and always has been the widest part of my body, even when I wasn't heavy.

Ditto on the clingy knits that only emphasize our problem spots.
Also, when will they realize that not every large woman is 6ft. tall and the same width from the shoulders all the way down to her knees? Large sized petites are nearly impossible to find, and if you do it's only in pants. I HATE tops that are always so long they look like a tunic instead of just a top.....especially when my butt is and always has been the widest part of my body, even when I wasn't heavy.

Here's a good one for everyone....
Today I saw someone I haven't seen for several months and all she could say at first after she finally figured out who I was was "Oh my God", Oh my God". then she got real close and whispered..."Did you have a facelift? You look 20 yrs younger than the last time I saw you". I told her that I hadn't and she backed up, looked at me and asked if I had gone in for a total body lift. I told her no, but that I may have one next year. She kept saying "Oh my God" until I thought I'd crack up laughing.
Really????? I happy she and others think I look younger, because at my age looking younger is ALWAYS a plus, but a simple compliment would have been enough. Other people heard her, and instead of feeling good about her noticing the change I found myself feeling totally self conscious.
Good thing she'll never have the chance to see me naked....

I'm so sorry to hear about your husband and want you to know that you have warm thoughts and prayers coming to you from N. Carolina.
Try to take care of yourself as best you can so you can be the rock your husband will need through all of this. We'll all be here for you as time goes on. Keep us posted.
Hugs,

If you're able to walk 2-3 miles that's terrific. Even if you're only doing it several days a week, it's better than nothing. My doc preaches about exercising every single day for a minimum of 30-45 minutes. In theory that's great but in reality I think most post surgery aren't able to do that much exercise because they simply just can't. I couldn't walk to my mailbox without my knees hurting like crazy or being out of breath. I started slow and now I'm able to walk about 2 miles at a time. I try to walk at least every other day and also get to the gym a couple to 3 times a week. I know that I really do feel better when I get exercise, but some days it's just not possible to get in.
I think doing what you're able to do, when you can do it is a good place to start. As the body gets lighter and stronger you'll naturally be able to do more.
Keep up the good work.

I'm 18 days post op, and at a loss for motivation to get exercising. I know, i need to. I have only managed to walk 2-3 miles several days a week. I'm back at work full time and find myself so lazy when I get home.... What was anyone else doing for exercise at this stage?