Wishfull.shrinking

No but as I have already said, I get it. Anything now is just trying to beat a dead horse. It's not trying to change a subject. I didn't start any other. It's knowing when to stop and leave well enough alone

I never said it wasn't. I'm working on it. Let's move on shall we.

Lots of typos... Sorry

Oh I have no doubt. I'm just trying to explain my mindset and the reason why I might be sensitive. After speaking to my husband about some of the insight I have received he thinks that yall are right and that I tend to come here when I am frustrated in MY process and project in others. He thinks I am jealous. Actually called my behavior a jealous child who thinks their friend isn't testing their toy the way I would if I had it. Maybe. Maybe. But that's the good thing about posting to a vast audience. You get opinions you might not have though of. Maybe I should post more? Would I have had this much self reflection of I didn't post this as I usually don't?

@@LipstickLady yes it is. But it is also coming from a place of someone who has busted my butt just to get through my program. I have clawed and fought and overcome many hurdles to get where I am going. Maybe I feel like people should appreciate their gift more. I don't know but it bothers me. I have been given some insight in the last few comments that make me think maybe I should chill and be understanding. However the feeling is there.

@@Elode I thank you for your opinion. It gave me a lot of insight. For me this is do or die so maybe I'm sensitive. Like I said maybe this is my issue and like you pointed out I really won't know until I am there.

@@majorsmama completely pointless and inappropriate? I will agree to disagree on that. People can post about what they wish and I chose to, just like the people you are defending. Also I don't break them down. I don't post much as I said. I won't break them down on that post because I feel it would be pointless and borderline bullying. However I can choose to make my own and if my rant hurt some feelings I'm not sorry just as their posts angered me. And even in saying this I will admit that you have given me some pause. Maybe it's more my issue then theirs. I'll concede that.

So I did it! I managed to keep a steady weight for all of my appointments. I played the insurance game while following my nutritionist and stayed exactly at a 40 BMI at 240 lbs. They submitted to my insurance and I have a date of May 26th! It seams so far!! Lol. I will be on my liquid diet for Memorial Day . But whatever, this is worth it! I am worth it! Which leads me to my little rant part. I don't post much but lurk often. While lurking I see a lot of "I cheated" "I can't stomach Protein shakes" "I can't drink water" "will I ever eat real food again" (after only a few weeks) I'm am not sorry to say this but it drives me absolutely INSANE! You are cheating yourself. No one else. I worked so hard to get here that seeing this makes me feel like this is all ungrateful unprepared fairly land crap! I just want to scream at them Did you do ANY research? Why even get the surgery if you won't keep working to make yourself a success? This is your health. You did it for your health. And by no means is a quick fix. If you don't like Protein Shakes oh well buttercup suck it up! You can't drink Water find a way to do it. Figure it out. I guess I just get mad that people don't love themselves enough to work at being a success but had the surgery anyway.

I am in the middle of playing the insurance game. If all goes well I SHOULD be sleeved by April. Keep those fingers crossed for me. but right now I am in the bath (teehee) thinking, gosh won't it be great after I loose all this weight to just enjoy a bath?! I know you guys know what I mean. I have no room in this tub. I just barely fit. But gosh darn it, I had a rough day. I want a bath with candles and tea. I just can't wait for it to be even better when I can add more Water and not be afraid it all sloshes out when I get it. That I can relax down and have most of my body actually covered instead of cold. Anyone else excited for just enjoying a bath?

Wow that does seem physically impossible to stay the same weight. I understand not being able to go under a certain weight for insurance purposes. I was in the same situation. But if my program wouldn't let me gain 1 single pound or start over, honestly, I would probably be looking for another program.

I have looked into other programs. I chose mine because of the surgeon and the great reputation that they have. There are only 2 other programs in my area and they also have the stable or loss requirement. In any program here if you gain any weight you are disqualified.

My daughter has the same strict weight requirements. She was denied first time by insurance because her BMI was too low. When we submitted to the ins company she was at 40BMI but her past 2 yr history indicated below 40 BMI 2 years ago. Really!???? I hate these games the insurance companies play with you. Why can this not be between the dr and the patient? So now we are waiting on the next round of games. She is required to show weight loss while working with her NUT, yet because she is at 242 pounds she cannot lose weight and stay over 40 BMI. If denied again we are throwing in the towel and heading to Mexico. Dr. A. Ortiz is our surgeon of choice. I have contacted them today to get date scheduled. We have wasted a yr with the crap the ins company has put out there. Time to take control of the situation and go to option 2. I am confident the surgery in Mexico will be as safe as if done here. She desperately wants to have the surgery and I know from my own experience it is a life changer.... All for the better. I want this for her as much as she wants it for herself. So very frustrating!

while it is comforting that someone else has been in my position, I am sorry to hear of her struggles. I really wish Mexico was an option for me. Sadly it is not and it seams I have to play the games also. Good Luck!!!

???? will do!

I have looked into it, no way around it.

Thank you! I feel the same way. It is crazy. I feel like if I had just started the program heavier than it wouldn't matter but because I am exactly at a 40 BMI and healthy my insurance will use any excuse to disqualify me. I have been over weight since I was a child. My weight fluctuates all the time. I obviously need this. Ugh. But in the end it just doesn't matter. I either get diagnosed with a co-morbidity or don't dip below a 40BMI. It just so happens I'm right on the edge of the clif. Losing weight and adding it on through other means seriously seams like my only option.

Lmao I know we "shouldn't" be doing this but you are honestly heaven sent for my sanity! I could kiss you! Lol you make a lot of sense. I'll just loose weight and then "add" the appropriate weight back on. Thank you so much. My stress level and sanity will be saved.

That's my opinion too. However it is a program requirement that you cannot gain any weight at all. Even 1lb. And it is my insurance requirement that as long as I have no co-morbidities I cannot go under a 40 bmi. I am at exactly 40bmi at 240lbs so if I go to 239lbs I am under a 40bmi and I disqualify. I am at a ridiculous spot and feeling very discouraged.

I am a newbie to the process. I attended my weight loss seminar August 27th. My program ( Comprehensive Adult Weight Management at Baystate Health Systems in Springfield, Massachusetts) has a minimum 6 month program commitment and I have BMC Health Net for insurance. I have went to my Nurse physical, 1 of my nutritional counseling, blood work, and went to another physician that states their recommendations that I have the sleeve surgery. Today I had a sleep study seminar scheduled because the nurse I saw suspects that I could have sleep apnea as I am always tired. Well I woke up and I was 2lbs OVER the weight I need to stay at. Being as I have no medical issues that have been discovered my weight needs to stay exactly at 240 or my bmi will drop below 40 and I won't qualify for surgery from my insurance. I do have the sleep study and I will have an ultrasound of my liver and gall bladder to see if I have any other medical issues but until it is confirmed or denied I NEED to stay at exactly 240lbs. Waking up to 242lbs this morning meant I had to reschedule my appointment or risk having to weigh in over and having to wait a year to start the program all over again. This is a set back and I feel discouraged that I have to prolong this process even by a month. The next seminar is not until November. It is so hard to stay at the same exact weight. I feel like it's harder than loosing weight! I feel like it's just a matter of time before I either weight over or dip too low. Ugh. I'm so frustrated. And Mexico just isn't an option for me. Any comments appreciated.

Springfield, Ma. Here. Just starting the process so I do not have a surgeon yet. I have my 2 hr informational seminar at Baystate Comprehensive Adult Weight Management Program Aug 27th

Jamielogical that makes a lot of sense. It's just so hard when you have been mentally trained one way for years with out success then something else makes you think the total opposite way. I have been looking more around the app and have seen great success stories. Gosh I hope to be one of them!

Bufflehead, thanks for that! Do you mind me asking what specific surgery you had? Thanks for your help!

Thank you so much for your help! Good luck on your journey !

Hello all!

I just registered but looking around here before that I didn't see anyone else ask this. I am either missing it or everyone else knows the answer to the question already. I just signed up to take a 2hr informational seminar on bariatric surgery on Aug 28th. It is the first step in the process I have to go through with my insurance company Masshealth BMC Healthnet. So please bear with me as I am really new to this and most likely have only a fraction of the information I need. As well as very short time learning this app. Ok so all that aside, I have been overweight since I was 10 years old. I am 29 now. It is time I took drastic measures to get this under control as dieting clearly has failed for me. I have tried many never being able to keep more than 30lbs off in a year. Now to the silly question. Every diet I have ever been on says that eating not enough calories will put you into starvation mode and basically won't work long term. Everything says it's horrible for your body and will actually hinder weight loss. I don't understand how the sleeve works then if it is strictly a reduction surgery? From what I have read the normal calories is 1000 a day. At 245lbs at 5'4" that is below starvation mode for everything I read. Please enlighten me! Thanks for being patient and helping this lost member.