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I have never had permanent makeup but am very interested...DId it hurt very much to apply it? Also how long did it take you to lost your 110 pounds and what did you eat to lose so much with a lap band. I am trying to decide which way to go, lap band or gastric bypass and I was afraid I could not lose 100 with lap band....Thanks for the info..Sincerely Chattykathi:thumbup:

Hi Chattykathi,

We must have been posting at the same time.

You can see what I said about the pain above, and as far as the weight, it took me 11 months to reach goal (119 pounds lost). However, 18 of those pounds are directly attributable to my surgery in June (tummy tuck, breast lift with implants, and an open myomectomy).

As far as what I ate, I tried to stick mostly with low-fat and (fairly) low-carb foods. I tried to consume around 1000 calories a day, but sometimes it was closer to 1500 (absolute perfection is not my "thing" when it comes to food).

Exercise was (and is) key for me. My cardio workouts are a minimum of one hour and sometimes on the weekends I go out for 2 - 3 hour moderately strenuous hikes. Also, my regular exercise routine consists of strength and core training. That said, my fitness program has been broken up quite a bit this summer because of my surgeries.

Good luck with your decision. Of course it is an individual choice and there are lots of factors to consider, but my advice would be to go with the Band. As long as you keep your end of the bargain with the Band, the weight will come off and you get the added benefit of keeping your precious organs intact and digesting your food properly too. :Banane37:

Hi Susan,

I will try to post some photos as soon as I can, but right now my "photographer" (DH) is a bit backed up with work and travel. He still owes me some updated PS photos too.........

I have never had a tattoo, so I can't really tell you how it compares pain-wise, but I can't say that it really hurt while the procedure was being done -- it just felt really weird. The eyeliner also caused some anxiety at first because I kept feeling as if my eyes were going to fly open during the procedure. It also took a little while to get my eyes fully numbed.

The eyebrows were a complete piece of cake, no pain, no discomfort whatsoever.

Afterwards however, the eyes did hurt a bit and felt quite raw. A single Tylenol immediately after, and the next day, took care of the pain completely. (My advice would be to take a Tylenol just before you have this done.)

Here is a link to a website of another artist out west who does superb, very natural work. I would say that my results are very comparable, but I will try to get my own photos up when I can.

Permanent makeup by Sally Hayes

Well, I have been thinking about doing this for over two years and last week I finally took the plunge......

I had my eyes and brows done with permanent makeup and now that it is all healed up, I can honestly say that I absolutely LOVE it!!!!

I had the eyes done in a very subtle "smudged" effect, with a barely perceptible line on the bottom and a "smoked out" brown line (custom mixed with a wee bit of mossy green to soften the color) on the top that is slightly thicker toward the outer corner and tapers in to a very thin line toward the inner corner. (Me being me, I'm sure I drove the poor makeup artist crazy with my micromanaging of this whole thing, right down to the mixing of the colors :crying:, but she was just lovely, and very patient with me and gave me exactly what I wanted.)

I had the brows done in a reddish-brown (but not too red) color that coordinates with my hair color, but also gives me some leeway if I ever want to change. The makeup artist did a great job and I now have that beautiful, perfect eyebrow arch that I have always wanted, but could never quite achieve with my own natural (thin and scraggly) brow hair.

What I'm absolutely loving about this whole thing is that I can now walk out of the house on a moments notice while no longer having to worry about frightening small children and animals, but yet still have the option to do my makeup when I want to.

It was interesting that I went in wanting my lips and eyes done and the makeup artist told me to skip the lips (she said my lips still had decent natural color and that she didn't see me as one who would want to go without lipstick anyhow) and to do the eyes and brows. I'm really glad I took her advice about this.

Has anyone else had this done?

Hey Lady,

Thanks for the update, I've been thinking and wondering about you!!! I hope you'll be joining us again in Band Land very soon!!!!

:crying::smile:

Hi Snapplegirl,

Thanks!!!

I agree wholeheartedly with what Karen G says about avoiding making comparisons and staying on top of your fills. In addition to that here are my three basic keys to sucess:

1) Fills under fluoro always.

2) Track everything you put in your mouth. I started out using Fit Day and currently use Daily Plate. I try to stay right around 1000 calories, but I'm not going to drive myself crazy trying to achieve perfection, so some days it might be closer to 1500.

3) Exercise and lots of it.

Hope this helps and good luck on your journey!!!!

you did it! congrats' gurl !!!

Thank you Mzreeda!!!! :crying::smile:

Congratulations on your excellent progress too!!!!

Hi All,

Sorry I've been AWOL from our Crazy Ates group lately, but I've been living over in "plastics land," so much so, that my Bandiversary completely passed me by last Thursday, without even a thought :crying:.

Congratulations to everyone for a great year and let's do try to keep our wonderful group together in the coming year!!!

I just want to thank you wonderful Band Mates, you have been a tremendous source of support and inspiration and I couldn't have gotten this far without you.

Hey Judi, with you being our best and brightest writer as well as the founder of our Crazy Ates group, I was wondering if you think it might be a good idea to start a Bandiversary Celebration Thread. I know it's already a bit late in the month, but what do think?

Also, I'm still thinking about a Crazy Ates get together and Vegas was one idea that was tossed out, but I have another. How about Miami? I'm telling you that South Beach scene is a tremendous amount of fun both day and night!!!! I'm also thinking that Miami is a lot easier and closer for many to get to (especially the East Coasters). I will be in Vegas in November, so that is definitely still an option for me.

Heck, maybe we can have two choices, either Miami in October or Vegas in November!!!!

Hi Julie,

I'm sorry that I don't have any good advice to offer regarding this situation, but I did want to tell you that I'm really sorry to hear that things didn't go the way you'd planned, and I'm hoping that you'll get it all worked out.

I do agree with the other posters that you might want to seek yet another opinion and possibly even a fourth until you find a Dr. in whom you have complete confidence. I would think that correcting another surgeon's mistakes requires even a higher level of skill and experience on the part of the Dr. doing the revision.

Hi Karey,

No problem typing and thinking out loud -- sometimes you just need to do that.......

Big hugs to you and sorry to hear about your knee problems -- just what you needed on top of everything else right now, huh?

I agree that there are advantages to having everything done in one solid block of time. To me, surgery (and recovering from surgery) is a highly disruptive thing -- which is why I am on an absolute mission to have everything that I "need" done this summer.

On the other hand, I can also understand why you might want to hold off a bit on the PS with the Lap Band problems you've had lately -- too much surgery at once might not be a good thing for you under the circumstances.

It is kind of a tough call for sure, and I hope that you and your doctors get it all worked out in a way you makes you feel most comfortable.

Hi Lillyanne,

Thanks!!!! I will put some updated photos up soon.

Definitely, I would always advise talking to two doctors at least (I consulted with 4), but do yourself a favor and consult with Dr. M. In addition to being very good he is also one of the nicest people you will ever meet. His prices are reasonable too -- not bargain-basement, but fair and very reasonable for a surgeon of his caliber.

Regarding the timing, I just posted in another thread regarding this issue and here's what I said.

"Re Timing:

Even if you are in doubt as to the timing, it's a good idea to do your consultations and let the Dr. advise you accordingly.

I started consulting with Dr.'s long before I thought I was ready -- when I was still 38 pounds from my "goal." The Dr. I ultimately chose told me that I only needed to lose another 15 before surgery, and he was right! (Although I did manage to lose 20). I lost another 18 pounds from the surgery itself and hit goal in less than one month post-op.

I had plastic surgery 10 months after being banded and I am SO glad I did. I figured that I had already wasted enough precious time being fat, and I didn't want to deal with being "flabby" one minute longer than I needed to. I am only 2 months post-op, but having a TT and a breast lift with implants has already made a huge improvement in the way I feel about my body.

So, my advice is to get everything set up in advance, and have the sugery as soon as your Dr. advises."

Hope this helps and good luck! I will be in Miami for about 18 days (from 8/23 through 9/10), so if you want to met up someplace (and you can pretty much always find me at one of the 5 Stein Marts between Cooper City and Boca, if not one of the malls :tongue:), PM me and we will set something up.

Hi Becky,

Welcome back! We missed you!!! How was your vacation(s)?

Sorry to hear about the yeast infection and good luck with the Dr. today. I'm sure once you get back on meds it will clear up pretty quickly.

Yes, my surgery is exactly two weeks from today, which is a good thing because my backside is driving me absolutely crazy!!! I'm having "the works" done to the backside and thighs -- lift, liposuction and buttocks augmentation. I can hardly believe it, but my butt is flat and getting flatter by the day and I have never, ever had a flat butt.

Anyhow, more to follow with this story, I'm sure............

Have a great day :smile:!

been in Miami w/the Parents - back to normal tomorrow ...

have played a bunch of golf/tennis the last 4 days & no weight gain even tho those fancy drinks just could not be passed by....

Hey Lulu,

Hope you had a good time Miami! Sorry I missed you. I'll be back there on the 23!

Well, I haven't been to good about posting, but I have been pretty good about keeping up with my workouts. Three more cardio sessions down.

Keep up the good work everyone!!!!:thumbup:

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Hi Lillyanne,

Love your screen name by the way. "Lilly" is one of my all time favorite names. I even named my cat "Lilly Belle."

I have an awesome Dr.. He is very skilled and has a tremendous bedside manner as well. His name is Dr. Nick Masri, and he specializes in post bariatric surgery patients. He has two offices that I know of, one in Aventura right near the mall and one in Bay Harbor Islands (in the Bal Harbour area). The phone number is 305.865.7866.

I had surgery with him on June 13. I need to take some updated pics, but here are my two week post-op pics, along with a before taken 4 days pre-op. I was still swollen at that time, and my results are even better now.

I'm having a buttocks/thigh lift along with some liposuction and buttocks augmentation in just two weeks, and I have no doubt that I will be just as happy with the backside as I am with the front.

Re Timing:

Even if you are in doubt as to the timing, it's a good idea to do your consultations and let the Dr. advise you accordingly.

I started consulting with Dr.'s long before I thought I was ready -- when I was still 38 pounds from my "goal." The Dr. I ultimately chose told me that I only needed to lose another 15 before surgery, and he was right! (Although I did manage to lose 20). I lost another 18 pounds from the surgery itself and hit goal in less than one month post-op.

I had plastic surgery 10 months after being banded and I am SO glad I did. I figured that I had already wasted enough precious time being fat, and I didn't want to deal with being "flabby" one minute longer than I needed to. I am only 2 months post-op, but having a TT and a breast lift with implants has already made a huge improvement in the way I feel about my body.

So, my advice is to get everything set up in advance, and have the sugery as soon as your Dr. advises.

Re Implants:

I have them and I love them. I wanted a nice, full breast and after consulting with 4 surgeons and looking at dozens of photos, I realized that an implant was the only way that I was going to achieve the look that I desired.

Even though I do have an implant, my breasts are not large. I went with a 400cc silicone implant which resulted in a "C" cup on my small(ish), 5'4" frame, and it's perfect for me.

Everyone is telling me that my results look very natural, and that if they hadn't known that I had surgery, they never would have guessed. Still, I do have a "shapely" look on top, which I'm very happy with.

Re TT next week, Michee:

Good luck and please keep us posted!!!! You will be so happy you did this!!!! :thumbup: What day are you going in?

I personally use Dr.Wizeman myself and was banded in May in Tj,Mexico and he did not charge me that ,so either he is overloaded in patients or this info is wrong.I will be going for my second fill on Wednesday I will ask him then.I paid $75.00 for office visits $75.00 for office fill and $225.00 for fills under fluoro.

Hi Bamgal,

I would very much appreciate it if you would ask him about this. I got this information from his office manager just today, when I called to book an appointment.

I'm willing to pay $300, but not $730.

Thanks!

BBK,

I haven't had a chance to look at the website yet, but it sounds awfully suspicious to me...........

My dating days are a thing of the very distant past, but when I think back to what some men thought they were entitled to after a $100 dinner, I can only imagine what one might want after "donating" several thousand dollars toward breast implant surgery.

My advice would be to pass on this one.............

Have a great day sweetie :smile:!

Dr.Wizeman does fills for 150.00 if under x-ray 300.00 but most patients

only need the x-ray for first fill he is in Pompano Beach

Hi All,

Have some updated info for you on Dr. Wizman in Pompano Beach/Margate.

If you have been banded by another Dr. he charges $730 for the first fill under fluoro not $300. There is a $500 "program fee" (whatever that is) plus a charge of $230 for the hospital.

Every fill thereafter (which would not be under fluoro I might add) would be $150.

Thanks, but I think I'll pass. First of all, I only have my fills done under fluoro, and secondly at that price, it's still cheaper for me to travel elsewhere.

Still looking........any other info on Dr.'s in South Florida who are in the $200 - $300 range would be great!

Thanks again :smile:!

Frangi: I thought his faces were amazing also, and I am considering a face lift. That's why I wonder if I should think about it, since I don't have that much fat left (YEAH) and did to think about if I should use it in my butt or face. Oh, things can get kind of bizarre can't they? I would feel sad to end my relationship with my PS, cause I really do like him, but if he can't do what I want then maybe I should consider it. I have every confidence that he can do a wonderful job on a LBL, it's just the butt thing I'm not sure about. I have also seen face lifts from my ps and they are very good, just not sure if they are as good as the "butt" guys. (He's always going to be the butt guy to me). LOL!

Hi Karey,

I hope you're feeling better!

I am so excited now about finding this Dr. Roberts -- his work really is amazing!!! Now I want you to consult with him, and let me know what you find out.

If you do consult with him though, please practice saying "Dr. Roberts" on the plane ride over, I would hate for you to accidentally address him as "Butt Guy" to his face :thumbup::thumbup:!

I thought I might email the butt guy and ask him if he does LBL in conjunction with agmentation, just for the heck of it. I'm not sure that my doc has a lot of experience with agmentation, either and I don't think he uses the micro whatever technique that was described. Right now it's all just talk because I'm not up for any of it right now. Still feel pretty crappy, thought my doc put me on a few new medicines that are helping the nausea, etc.

Hi Karey,

Sorry to hear that you are still having such a rough time of it, and I hope it resolves soon.

"Butt guy," that's funny ! Let me know what you find out.

After you alerted me to it, I took a look at his other website that features his facelifts, and WOW! :tt1::tt1::tt1: His work is amazing!!!!

As much as I like and appreciate my surgeon, when it comes time to do the face, I have no loyalty whatsoever (:tt2::tongue::tongue:), and I will be looking for the absolute best of the best.

I consider the face to be in it's own special category, and this guy will definitely be on my list of people to talk to when the time comes........

Hi Karey,

I hope all went well with the Dr. yesterday and you're feeling much better.

Okay this is so confusing! I went to the website on buttocks and found it very interesting. His facelifts using fat grafts looked really good also.

I liked Dr. Robert's website too, but the once concern I would have about him is whether or not he has experience in working with post bariatric surgery patients like us.

I'm thinking that I need to stop losing weight so I have a little fat left for my face and butt. Boy is that a weird thought!

LOL :w00t:!

. Well, for the money, I want want is ultimately going to look the best, even if I have to go to SC or NY. But, it's diffiuclt because I feel so grateful to my PS for what he has already done for me. I'm a very loyal person.

I would find it very hard to switch doctors at this point, and your Dr. seems excellent. I've run across his name a few times on these PS forums and his patients seem very happy. Assuming that you're also happy with him, I think there is a lot of benefit in working with the same surgeon from start to finish on something like this.

Just remember, Frangi, I'll be watching you!

No problem, I'll be happy to share as the process unfolds.

Frangi: This is exciting! Can't wait to learn from you this go around. I was thinking of having my surgery in January. Right now I feel pretty crappy, still experiencing a lot of nausea and tiredness from my slip. I'm going to the doc today to see what they can do for me. The way I feel right now, I just can't imagine having more surgery, but I know my vanity will get the best of me!

Hi Karey,

Thanks! :cry_smile::smile::drool:

Sorry to hear that you're not feeling well. Good luck with the Dr. today, and I hope he/she gets you all fixed up and feeling better.

Frangi -

I was looking into this as you were posting. I agree with your decision 100%. Look at the curves you have added to the "front" of you. I would absolutely have the same thing done if I were in your position (which I hope to be next year!). I have a flat butt to begin with and would to add a bit of life to it!! You are having surgery a day before my lapband anniversary!! Let me know if you would like me to post again for you.:cry_smile:

Hi Jody,

Thanks for the encouragement -- it really helps make me feel better about my decision. And yes, that would be great if you could post for me again. Thanks for the offer!!!

I still cannot get over the fact that pear-shaped me of all people, is paying to have fat put back into my behind -- go figure!!!

By the way, I came across this Dr. in my searches and talk about beautiful behinds!!!! I like his informational website too. If I were still looking for a Dr., I would definitely be headed up to SC to talk to this guy. Check it out Better Buttocks Cosmetic Plastic Surgery

Happy Bandiversary Daddy!!! 180 Pounds is ASTOUNDING!!!! Congratulations!!!!!!

:drool::party::party::ohmy::huh2::sad:

I didn't realize that you and I were only one day apart. My bandiversary is tomorrow.

Well, I'm having some more surgery done at the end of this month, but am trying to go at it full tilt with the exercise until then.

What a hard-working group we have here. This thread is already three pages long and it's only August 6! Great job everyone:thumbup::cry_smile::thumbup:!

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Good for you!!!! You have a great and trusting relationship with your surgeon and I've no doubt he's right on this time too. You, my friend, are going to be even hotter!!!! Is your hubby going to be able to be with you for this surgery as well?

Hi Cori,

Thanks!

I won't know until closer to the time if DH will be able be there or not -- his work schedule is always very busy and unpredictable, and he also has to take a trip sometime around that time. If he can't make it, there's a service that can help me out. I would have them there to pick me up from the hospital, and if need be, stay with me at the hotel for a while. Also, I have been to the hotel so many times now that I know all the front desk staff and they would be right there if I had any problems (doubtful).

The first time I had way more surgery (including that open myomectomy, if you recall) and was up and about very quickly, so I'm not too concerned about this one.

You know me, I'll be fine and will probably be climbing the walls within a very short time! :cry_smile:

Just a quick update........

Even though I'm still gathering information about this whole new buttocks augmentation procedure, I've decided to do it. I gave it a lot of thought and I don't want to risk coming out of surgery with a flat behind.

My derrière has always been ample and I simply cannot imagine not having at least a little something there !

I will keep you posted Karey, and anyone else who is interested.