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Anybody about 4 months out from surgery?

DLCoggin hit the nail on the head. Great info.

No disrespect taken. I completely understand your view, bucklandman. My problem is with the connotations of the phrase "easy way out." When has that phrase ever been used without disrespect coming across? It isn't because it is "easier" that weight loss surgery works. It's a complicated mix of behavioral and physical changes that are forced on the body. Just because weight loss is more often accomplished with weight loss surgery doesn't mean it's easier, it just means its more effective.

People that say that kind of stuff need to take a step back and THINK. It is like saying they'd rather see you continue failing by doing things "the right way" and have you remain obese and unhealthy. Also, surgery isn't a way out. It can all be undone just like non surgical weight loss. It's a tool to help you get on the right track. If I were you, I'd tell my sister that is like saying she wants you to live a shorter life riddled with health problems. She should want you to succeed, whatever path you take.

I'm almost done with my third month of physician supervised dieting and I'm guessing I'll end up getting the surgery in February. I was hoping to find people at similar stages in the process. I wonder what it's going to be like trying to take walks outside in winter after surgery! Anyway, Jan 4th will be my last diet day, then two weeks to hear back from the insurance company, then I'll probably have to set a surgery date a month or so out to accommodate the Doctor's schedule.

I'm not sure we can do anything about it- my doctor told me there is simply not a way to predict whether you'll have excess skin or not. Being younger is a factor, but not a rule, if that makes sense. Same with the amount of time being overweight and how much weight you have to lose (your BMI is a better indicator bc it takes height into account). How fast you lose isn't going to matter, my doc says. Lotion can make your skin less dry, which might make it look better but it can't add elasticity. And exercise is helpful for excess skin only if you build muscle to fill some of the empty skin. We've done some big damage to our bodies. We can't expect them to respond perfectly, just like we can't expect ourselves to be perfect And imperfection is okay. I was disappointed to learn about excess skin as well, but I think, in the end, I'll be happier if I learn to accept my very human flaws, not eliminate them.

Well, I got denied by my insurance provider today. I need 6 months of physician supervised weight loss, nutritionist consultation, and psych eval. I feel like 6 months is an eternity. How do I get through it?

If I were to oversimplify the choice, I think it comes down to what your biggest behavioral obstacles are. I ruled out the lap band and sleeve because, as my surgeon said, I could still sip milkshakes and nibble on cheeseburgers until I'd gained another 100 pounds. If you want more freedom to still eat certain things (which is a completely valid reason to opt for one of these - it just depends on self-control) then the sleeve or the band might be for you. However, the percentage of excess weight loss is less for these two than for the RNY. The sleeve is actually pretty darn close in terms of weight loss to the bypass. And the part of the stomach that distributes a hormone that causes hunger is removed, so that's a great perk. You will have to remind yourself to eat. I might have chosen the sleeve if my insurance carrier covered it, but they don't. I chose the RNY because I wanted the dumping syndrome, which causes you to get sick if you eat anything too high in fat or sugar. Some people don't want that, but I felt like I needed it to help me change my relationship and behavior with those kinds of foods. My surgeon has videos that go over each surgery and it's pros and cons on his website: http://poplawskibariatric.com/for-prospective-patients/ If you can, watch those videos because I couldn't have made my decision without them. Good luck to you!

I'm in my first month of 6 months supervised weight loss, and I'm wondering how you guys' relationships with food have changed. If you were an emotional eater, what do you do now instead of eat? Do you really get so that you don't want food in the same way you did before surgery (e.g less hungry or food makes you nauseous instead of sparking a craving)? Or any other thoughts would be great. Thanks everybody!!

Thanks everyone for such honest and thoughtful and helpful answers. I think I'll need to see a counselor too. I've already got it in my head that I'm going to fail, even after getting the surgery, which would be the most extreme thing I've ever done. I wish it was easier to believe in myself.

Hey All, I am a professional web developer and am putting together a website, http://myrouxeny.com, for anyone affected by morbid obesity and weight loss surgery. I want this site to be a haven for those who are afraid to speak up themselves (like in this forum), but need support and encouragement. If any of you would be interested in writing regularly or just once, to tell your story to the site's audience, I would love to answer any questions you might have, and get your story out there. It can be an entirely anonymous contribution or entirely... un-anonymous(?) if you do choose. This is solely to benefit the community of our peers. Email me at cj@myrouxeny.com with any questions or if you're interested. I'm also putting together a gallery of before and after photos, so email me if you'd like to be a part of that gallery. Thanks, everyone

And DANG 117 pounds?!?! You are a rock star!

Thanks, Sheryl!

Thanks so much. I'm going to use the " Diet and Excercise" short answer. It's TRUE! And yeah, I hope I'm strong enough to be one of the successful ones when the time comes I'm really scared of failing.

I feel shy about telling people I'm getting a RNY. I'm scared of judgment I guess. What are your guys' experiences with coworkers and acquaintances, etc?

Good luck! I'm cheering for you!

Wow, that is so awful. I'm so sorry. Definitely file a complaint. It will help others avoid having to go through what you went through. A center of excellence is important to have, but as we can see, it doesn't seem to guarantee bedside manner and attentive care, which it should. I read through what it takes to be a center of excellence, and it involves the following (the disease-state in our cases would be bariatric surgery, essentially, I think): Board certified specialist and subspecialties in the disease-state Current diagnostic and treatment technology Standardized (where applicable) care plans If surgical services are involved standardized surgical and medical device packs Unique or innovative service not found in the service area Long-term sustainable business plan Dedicated full-time CoE director or manager Center defined capital budget for acquisition of new technology, devices etc Outcomes better than the national average Active satisfaction measurement of physicians, payers and patients Patient referrals from what would be considered outside of the normal hospital or health system service area Fully developed patient disease-state educational materials (and that doesn't mean a pamphlet from an association or pharma) Outcome case studies Transparency dashboard which reports surgical and treatment outcomes, case mix index, mortality and morbidity data, financial indicators, satisfaction rates for physician, payer and patient, quality measures, market share, etc Joint Commission CoE certification*(Leon) Other third party external accreditation's if available for the disease-state The disease-state is a core competency of the organization Centers brand name and brand architecture is consistent with and fully integrated into the hospital or other providers brand plan.

That is a lot of unclear information. If I were you, I would call the office of your surgeon and see of they have anyone on staff to help patients comply with their insurance requirements, let alone help uncover what they are exactly. Insurance providers are terrible at clearly and consistently explaining how to qualify for benefits. Don't rely on answers in this forum or online- find an insurance advocate or professional to help you. You shouldn't have to do this on your own.

That's so great! Have you lost any weight? How is it going in general?

Oh my gosh Cooksie you're halfway done!!

Thanks so much, everybody. Jeez this forum is amazing. Everyone is so supportive I called my insurance company today and they said that the 6 months supervised weight loss needs to result in the primary care physician concluding that normal diet and exercise isn't working and that I need to try something else. So I guess my fate is in my physician's hands. It's hard to really know what constitutes failure after six months of dieting (haha I know what failure after a decade of dieting looks like... I just need a mirror LOL).

Does anyone know what they look for, like a certain amount of weight loss or weight gain or nothing? Does it depend on the insurance provider?

Thanks ladies for helping me put a more positive spin on this. It's good to know most people have to go through this. Haha I was thinking my insurance was just being a jerk... But if waiting six months means saving $12,000 or thereabouts, I suppose this is a high-class trouble : )

My claim was just submitted today (I have Meritain PPO) and I'm scared of being denied and told I need to wait six months. Any words of wisdom for getting through this waiting period, and how to stay positive after a denial?