TheWatcher

lol classic i love it

a present vote more or less says that i do not agree nessesarily with this bill as it is currently written but i am no opposed to it so i will allow it to go the way of the vote.

ah hem.... HELLS YEA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

time for me to interject a little comedy into this way too serious thread... then we can get back to debating. Synchronized Presidential Debating - 236.com - Video

Donna Bjean and i were responding to jack attempting to compare Obama's call for Civil service to the draft.... how does that relate

neither one mentions anything about Obama so how is it that this is proof to Obamas want of the draft?... or are you trying to guilt him by association. you guys seem to be grasping at straws here... so there is (a) liberal who wants the draft ... hes not the candidate .... try again

now thats not true or nice

hell to the naw.... i saw the libertarian party convention .... those people are crazy

yea well the right lost their way a long time ago and its more that just McCain palin and bush that has decimated the republican party... the fact of the matter is that this race is already over and for good reason and believe me once Bush is impeached the Libertarians with be the new Conservative party in this country... and that's a lil scary in itself. and yea i know thats a little extreme but you know what @#%$ em if they can't take a joke!

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EosVGRFq2XM]YouTube - Keith Olbermann rips John McCain Sarah Palin Racist Rallies![/ame] something that still bothers me.... a bit

wow and the spinning just keeps on going doesn't it... no one has yet talked about spreading the wealth outside our borders.... and trust the last 8 republican years has sent more money outside of our borders that ever before so jack.... no sir i font buy it ......

ouch... well welcome to the debate... its not just a sound bite these and the policy that is real and that old lady at that rally is right most or my family has been or in in the military and they cant if things remain this way for long there will have no choice... and some of those interviews i saw when broadcast and i said it back then the fact is that even bush toyed with enacting the draft... i just for the sake of saying it ... i am still prety intelligent. I love how people are quick to shoot down my ideas and my theories and say that im misinformed or unintelligent yet when i find it i post my reaseaarch people skip it or just pretend i said nothing... have you read the whole tread... i understand being passionate about your position cmon we all have to worry about what we say comming back to bite us on the ass. Mccain just has enough for you me and everyone else on this server... you can all it a sound bite a video clip or what ever you want to call it but it is more that that and weather you want to admit is anouther question. i am not a liberal i am a independent the only reason i registed demacrat was to help out Barrack .... its easy for someonw who wouldnt be eligable for the draft to say oh its just a sound bite ... i dont have that luxury i will be on the first thing smoking to the middle east. and please support your many liberals support the draft i wanna read that one for my self. and dont find one fringe idiot .... you said many!

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QR8WXPlBCho]YouTube - GIVE GEORGE BUSH A 3rd. TERM![/ame] hey everyone i watched this and thought of u you all btw... did he say he would enact the Draft..... yea .... he went there isn't you tube great .... you find the best stuff.

gadget lady is the McCain campaign paying you???

That's true... i don't agree with the man or the word... but underneath the extremism there is truth lined there... is he had more tack he would really be respected. but he has gone the way of bat nuts crazy....

phewww:sleep:

hold on one minute.... if you can manage your self and have a discussion don't co around calling for the closure of my thread. i mean cmon what happened bjean may have been getting a lil edgy but gadget you were out of line. cmon your too old for this.... chill and conversate or stop reading this thread!!!!:party::crying::Dancing_biggrin:

the fact is Nobody cares about Ayers except republicans; independents don't care and bout him or wright so keep trying to get him on that basis and we will just see who gets in the white house in jan 20 09

i will but man they are wearing me down.... thank God there is only 2 more weeks...

You could just read his book ... follow his actions and become informed and look for information on his policies instead of assuming what you say you concluded. Truth is there is nothing that ties Ayers ideology to Barrack Obama's in all actuality there’s a witch hunt going on to try in bring Obama down and it’s not working... The reason they can’t make the Ayers situation stick is because there is no validity there. And now the only republican I ever wanted to vote for has endorsed Obama for many of the same reasons. (Colin Powel) Have you read The Blueprint for Change on Obamas website…? That Document lays out Obamas stand it’s all there you say you conclude that Obamas vies are the same as Ayers then I challenge you to read his own stance and see if what you concluded by judging someone that the man knows instead of what he believes. http://www.barackobama.com/pdf/ObamaBlueprintForChange.pdf

Wrong he has not repented. ... when was the last time be blew something up?

If a man has done his time and has changed his ways then yes i would hang out with a killer. I for Forgive but never forget that under the right sercumstances this man could kill again. i wouldnty make him my buddy but i woudnt stop associating with them... i would have to cut off some close members of my family... AP repeated McCain campaign's false claim that Obama "failed to tell the truth" about Ayers, ignored own reporting on Palin's "palling" claim Summary: The AP uncritically repeated the McCain campaign's false assertion that Sen. Barack Obama "failed to tell the truth" about his association with William Ayers and uncritically reported Gov. Sarah Palin's claim that Obama "pall[ed] around with terrorists." Despite numerous independent fact checks to the contrary, in an October 14 article, The Associated Press uncritically repeated the McCain campaign's false claim that Sen. Barack Obama "failed to tell the truth about his relationship with 1960s radical William Ayers." The suggestion that Obama wasn't truthful about his association with Ayers is false, and the attack echoes a McCain campaign ad that asserts: "When convenient, he worked with terrorist Bill Ayers. When discovered, he lied." However, independent fact checks of the McCain campaign's claim that Obama "lied" about his relationship with Ayers have found the claim to be false. In an October 10 "Fact Checker" article, The Washington Post asserted of the ad: "The McCain campaign is distorting the Obama-Ayers relationship, and exaggerating their closeness. There is no evidence that Obama has 'lied' about his dealings with Ayers." Additionally, a FactCheck.org article found "McCain's accusation that Obama 'lied' to be groundless." Moreover, ignoring its own reporting, the AP uncritically reported that Gov. Sarah Palin "has accused Obama of 'palling around with terrorists,' meaning Ayers." However, on October 5, the AP reported that "there is no evidence that they [Obama and Ayers] ever palled around. And it's simply wrong to suggest that they were associated while Ayers was committing terrorist acts." As the AP noted on October 5, in accusing Obama of "pall[ing] around with terrorists," Palin cited a New York Times article that in the AP's words "detailed Obama's relationship with Ayers." But the Times article that Palin cited does not support her accusation; rather, as the AP noted in the October 5 article, the Times reported that "the two men do not appear to have been close." From the AP article: McCain and running mate Sarah Palin have said Obama failed to tell the truth about his relationship with 1960s radical William Ayers, and Palin has accused Obama of "palling around with terrorists," meaning Ayers. Ayers was a founder of the Weather Underground, a radical, Vietnam War-era group that claimed responsibility for a series of bombings, including nonfatal explosions at the Pentagon and U.S. Capitol. Ayers also hosted a reception for Obama in 1995, when Obama was beginning his political career. The two also have worked with the same nonprofit organizations in Chicago. McCain's campaign has tried to exploit those ties, even while saying it disagreed with Frederick.

again i am not saying Obama is Christ like.. i stated that to be christian is to try to be Christ like... in that case Barrack Obama is a Christion and The way he carries himself I can see that quality in him(Trying to Follow Christ to the best his ability) not saying hes like christ. So what if Ayres is unreppentant In my own family i have Shady character who have comitted crimes and other things in their life including to me personally... They havs not been cast out of my life to the point that at times i dont ever have to seework with them... Im arguing that the connaction has no relevance to the campaign ... the issues or the argurements...

So you leave me to assume that the company you keep are spotless and that McCain or Palin's Company are spotless.

NO i forgive but i have nothing to forgive him for ... he has not wronged me... Still doesnt change the fact that hes a idiot.