TheWatcher

HMO or PPO

Ok so im hella juiced i just got submitted to my insurance for approval.... i know BC of CA usually approves but how long does it take. the default date if 9-9-08 thats just too far away so i'm going to go on the wait list after i get approved. anyone with BC of CA HMO?

thats whats im talking about some great songs im close to butting close by nine inch nails at the top of my list. i mean the hook:thumbup: says it all

Ok so im hella juiced:thumbup: i just got submitted to my insurance for approval....:tongue_smilie: i know BC of CA usually approves but how long does it take. the default date if 9-9-08:huh2: thats just too far away so i'm going to go on the wait list after i get approved. so tell me if you had blue cross how long did your approval take?

C-mon people i know there are more people out there with a list.... share

I'm just tired of sitting here watching these people and gaining respect for these people then i hear thing like i did it the right way ... without surgery or anything. Wtf is wrong with these people last time i checked thats not real and if it wasn't for that damn show you would be in the same boat as the rest of us. they didn't have t wait thought the plateaus that sometimes take months they are spoon fed a diet and like a horse to Water lead through their workout day in and day out for 100 days ... seriously don't you people have jobs last time i checked if i took a 100 day vaca i wont have a job when i get back .... not to mention that i would be broke. those lucky pricks should just be happy... not talking about how they did it the right way. its bullshit. ahhh i feel better now:ranger:

So now it becomes real for me... one more test then i get my surgery date. I am almost worried ... something that i never thought i would feel at this point. not that the surgery wont happen or wont go well... but that my body won't recover as well as my health will... anyone have any idea how the skin reacts in men... personal stories... im 24 now and i have been fat all my life... Almost. So now that im going to change that will i have to be constantly reminded of how i used to treat my body?

So now it becomes real for me... one more test then i get my surgery date. I am almost worried ... something that i never thought i would feel at this point. not that the surgery wont happen or wont go well... but that my body won't recover as well as my health will... anyone have any idea how the skin reacts in men... personal stories... im 24 now and i have been fat all my life... Almost. So now that im going to change that will i have to be constantly reminded of how i used to treat my body?

Pre op testing .... this may actually happen .... something i need will actually happen for me .... im juiced

thats great but you would be supprised to find out how many people have not had that revelation.

OK to after the consultation what hoops am i likely to have to jump through... My doc said they may be hesitant cause the only things that im being affected by is bmi over 60 and sleep apnea. So other than the psych eval whats test and things are they likely to run???

OK to after the consultation what hoops am i likely to have to jump through... My doc said they may be hesitant cause the only things that im being affected by is bmi over 60 and sleep apnea. So other than the psych eval whats test and things are they likely to run???

I wasn't accusing or trying to put words in your mouth .... its just to me it seemed that way

so u bane blue cross of California then thats what im getting since you are telling me that insurance co's all at the exact same way thats what i getting from you... and i honestly dont believe that all fat people have a eating disorder and that all fat people are fat for the same reason... im just saying just cause a dr or a therapist or a nutritionist says that you have a disorder don't make it the truth

according to one of those calculators 62. yes but if u have no controll during a depression and u now have more control then that would make it a mental disorder. at least in my book... not i got help and got over it... i came to terms for the reason that i was depressed now im just angry... the depression has gone... im back to my old cocky borderline arrogant self again.... its actually a relief. i feel like my life is getting back to normal.... and the reason i need the band is so that i can stop the scycle of obesity in my family. cause even if i control my of weight i will only go doen to a point usually i do well all year and then the holidays come and i balloon back up... the holidays for me represent a onset of the most delicious soul food in existence skinny people come to my familys holiday parties and leave heavier.

I am obeast as people call it because food was my out i was Depressed for the better part of the last 15 years... so when i was at my lowest i could always count on food to be a support. it was kepf fairly managed through school due to the fact that i was a jock ... football backetball wrestling badeball track and feild(shot put)... do i really didnt matter what i ate but i was still big. :ranger: My problems started when i was outta high school for the most part i didnt work out near as much...:ranger: The other problem is that comming from a large african american family when we get together its a soul food buffet and its only recently that we have started editing the recipies to be more health smart.:hungry: Now after i got over the depression i still had to deal with the bad habbits that i picked up from depression. But now that im actively trying not to overeat and make better decisions about what i eat its talking its own toll but there still change i need to make. i believe by biggest obsticle to my weit gain was the depression and thats done with.:cry:think I have already confirmed that the lap band is covered by my insurance. my pcp has already set me up with a consultation thus the thread and coincidently its the same Dr. that was at the first seminar i went to.:whoo::clap2::heh:

great i dont have a eating disorder... 5 generations of my family both sides are fat.... and i just cut out fast food all together and lost 35lbs .... they are gonna piss me off....six months of a diet... ftlog please tell me thats an exageration .... Does this happen with most cases... anoy one else have a similar experience or one thats different...... incase it helps im 24 in the bayarea ca and i have blue cross of calfornia hmo:ranger::faint::help:

OK to after the consultation what hoops am i likely to have to jump through... My doc said they may be hesitant cause the only things that im being affected by is bmi over 60 and sleep apnea. So other than the psych eval whats test and things are they likely to run???:ranger:

I'm a student granted at this point its more of a Scholar. But a student none the less.

Ok i have heard this sooooooo many times in this thread and no man has had the balls to say anything... I love the fact that there are women who like to go down on their man... i swear i was shocked at the number of women u like it considering my community but before i start to digress here is what i want to inform the women in this room... Men like getting head (period) Hell until i knew better my motto was there is no such thing as bad head... Well this is not true there is bad head there is worst head and there is Horrendous head.... the problem lies in the fact that men feel so happy that a woman is doing the act that it can be bad and they will never say anything... most men with not tell you if you are bad at it... in fact if you have to ask the question to get the answer theres a chance it doesnt work for him... another thing to note is that just like women, what works for one man won't work for all men... This information i am relaying i had to learn the Hard way...(i can still remember the bruises) so my advice to the women who enjoy it and want to be the greatest you man ever had... treat it like a class in college. go to borders pick up an couple of text book.... Study your text to understand the theory. once you have a general understanding of the theory take that knowledge to the lag and run some test and experiments... This way whether its the guy u have now or the a guy in the future u will have enough talent/skill/knowledge to drive any man crazy. when u really get it down you will get questions like how did you get so good at this? and such questions ... and you know your doing it right if the guy looks at you with fascinated eyes wondering how the hell and who the hell taught her that. Thus is how i learned and perfected cunnilingus thus its possible for you ti master fellatio. but then thats just one mans experience and opinion.... somebody back me up

nice... now i gotta run and get belly so i can figure out what song that is...lol great songs though.

I was just thumbing through my massive music collection and i was starting to think that I've what i consider a soundtrack to life. songs that when you are about to get down to it would be the perfect songs to make love, have sex, fool around, or FUCK to. I have given a lot of thought to this subject and i have many but the aways seem to change according to the activities that i have listed above... each seems to have its own rhythm its own flow. ill start this thread with one a few of my own suggestions and people can follow in suite Foo Fighters - tired of you / F***ing Me'Shell NdegeOcello - Fool of Me / Making love JayZ - ni**** please / Having sex Guns N Roses - November rain / making love Prince - Purple Rain / making love So hopefully these give you and idea of what I'm talking about The songs done necessarily have to be about sex or love or anything like that... it may just be that the bass line ... a certain guitar solo.. or a part of the vocals would just be the perfect sound to accompany the act of what you are doing in the current moment. Thx in advance for the feedback

I was just thumbing through my massive music collection and i was starting to think that I've what i consider a soundtrack to life. songs that when you are about to get down to it would be the perfect songs to make love, have sex, fool around, or FUCK to. I have given a lot of thought to this subject and i have many but the aways seem to change according to the activities that i have listed above... each seems to have its own rhythm its own flow. ill start this thread with one a few of my own suggestions and people can follow in suite Foo Fighters - tired of you / F***ing Me'Shell NdegeOcello - Fool of Me / Making love JayZ - ni**** please / Having sex Guns N Roses - November rain / making love Prince - Purple Rain / making love So hopefully these give you and idea of what I'm talking about The songs done necessarily have to be about sex or love or anything like that... it may just be that the bass line ... a certain guitar solo.. or a part of the vocals would just be the perfect sound to accompany the act of what you are doing in the current moment. Thx in advance for the feedback

Well here is my take on the situation... You have to start somewhere. If you approach communication like its a hugely groundbreaking thing its will never be easier... developing that level of open communication should have started the first time he saw you naked. If its just a month or a year should make no difference... Somethings your not gonna wanna hear vice versa... some things you hes not gonna want to say and vice versa... but these are things that need to be said... For any relationship to grow you have to be open and honest... FROM THE START its the only way to ensure that you will have the skills to weather the storms that are inevitably coming. :heh: A good practice is never to get into a relationship especially a sexual relationship unless there is potential for the situation to go all the way... otherwise the experience for both parties only gets cheapened and may cause problems in future relationships or destroy what could have been a fruitful friendship. ***that last statement was just cautionary... not meant for anyoone in particular.:ranger:

Not sure if they fail people... i know that they probably should... i know a person that got a bypass... he just wasn't ready... he was already a really shy and secluded person now a lot of social interaction ( tough life and family Bullsh**) so he got the surgery and lost all this weight and now. its like going from being more or less ignored in a club to being able to get who he wants ... but its weird you would think that hes happy but no ... hes angry.. he lashes out at sarcastic humor and everything is BLACK or WHITE... any constructive criticism is misconstrued as a attack on his person and may trigger him to lash out... I was with him when he at a party and got drunk. And the hole night seemed as though it was one big pump up my ego session. the more he drank the more insecure he would get... honestly when u get a nice buzz going yourself it kind of ruins it... I just don't get it the more i hang around the guy the more i and trying to figure out how he passed the psych eval... He told me the other night that he gets angry because the people he dates never wanted him when he was fat... I understand where hes coming from ... but i myself don't have his emotional issues... hes already in counseling but thats not exactly working for him... im at aloss.... i mean i had to get over my own issues but i don't know what to do to help him with his social skills or his anger about his newly found popularity.