swimbikerun

Ok, I'm not a bander, but thank you for your words of wisdom. Hope that you aren't too angry at me for posting, but no matter what someone has, there is always the potential that I find another who's had that surgery or who can use the words of wisdom to pass on. Thank you for helping others.

Everyone has a different reaction to the surgery. If you need a break, have one. I do suggest a light walk though. Nothing major. I had a metabolic acidosis problem to the surgery. Once I got out of that, I was booking. Again, each person reacts differently, so don't measure yourself to people like me. I know its out there and I'd like to address it. If you can't do it, work simply on drinking your fluids and getting whatever Protein in you can. The light walks are going to help though.

Hmmmm supposedly we can only handle 20 grams at a time. Is there any way of posting the ingredients on these protein shots? I saw some that had caffeine. Fake sugars. That's why I am asking.

@@Stevehud unfortunately it is true. In the group I was with, what care you got depended on whether or not the surgeon liked you or not. I would see care given to one and not another, no way it was based on medical research. They also would sit with some people to figure out problems and not others, blaming them for the problems. It was incredible. That doesn't mean it was true with everything, but there were a number of issues I had to ask on. Now that I've been going public with the story and starting to tell more people, I've gotten harassment for it. I think you really need to investigate the surgeons. I'm supportive here of people that I don't where or what they got in terms of surgery, because I know that good doctors & programs should be supported.

@mrsto Thank you for that information. VERY MUCH!! I'll look that one up about recent studies. I would suspect the lower rate and slower rate of weight loss is the issue. Lets face it: Americans want it fast and now. RNY & Sleeve deliver that. I would TOTALLY support the issue you brought up of follow up care. My surgeon dropped my follow up care (I'm a complicated patient & from what I can tell he didn't know all the complications from surgery and didn't even bother to research it, nor was my questions & research & other docs' opinions any meaning to him). Yes, that is correct: once the $$$$$ surgery happens, you are a waste of money except for the ASMBS studies. They can send you out to regular PCP's to draw the blood work each year. They don't want us problem children because we're not worth the investment. No matter what the surgery is: band, sleeve or RNY, there are ways to get around them.

Stevehud you would be surprised. When I showed people, by the cops own admissions statements in the FOIA'ed police reports, that my surgeon was calling the cops on me for doing nothing illegal and wrong, its amazing the hate and retaliation I got from some of his people/patients. In other words, they promoted the one who wronged (and who's group has done things they appear to try and stop me from speaking on). The question is what is the motive in their hearts to do that? I would say to ask the same question for people who don't support anothers' choice in the surgery. Or in where they get surgery (since we've known people to have a problem with those who go to Mexico for it).

I think one of the research articles I saw was 20% rate of slippage with the band. The other is having refills, etc. that you don't need with the other surgeries. The weight loss is not as good. If you have more weight to lose, as people are getting larger, the sleeve or RNY or DS is the way to go. I have heard of people with 8 years or more doing well with the band. I've had some with sleeve or RNY not do well, and everything in between. I support whatever surgery someone gets. Its hard to ignore though, the reasons above. Not saying people don't have success, but the success rates with RNY & sleeve are higher, the complications less, going to a specific doctor for refills, etc. less than what RNY/sleeve do, that's a good part of why you see what you do.

Totally agree!

I am so very glad you are persevering!!

Same here. I cringed seeing this. However, the attitude doesn't surprise me from the medical profession. Well some of them any way. The oddity is that the bariatric surgeon is in more need of an attitude adjustment than the other docs I have now.

Nanna it sounds like you had a really hard time. How are you doing, both physically and mentally? You have been thru a lot. What could we do to help you? We can talk about what to eat and the like but I think the issue is more that you were depressed, feeling deprived and then ate the emotions you had. Did the doctor at any point suggest helping you? That's what I don't understand - unless they're like my bariatric surgeon.

Cool. I am a member of No meat Athlete. They give me great Protein sources since I'm stuck with turkey and chicken and by using veg. type Proteins, can get more protein in that way.

Hey there You wouldn't happen to be a part of No meat Athletes' Academy would you?

Fabulous. Thank you for this.

@@SuperDave that is quite interesting. Thanks for bring up what you did. Enjoy listening to all facets. I think its good that we do try to examine all our options.

Yes to all of the above and more.

Question for you: why are you focusing on this instead of getting and working on the life you want to have? I don't regret my family members with diabetes, high blood pressure, heart problems, etc. from obesity related diseases. Whether it is food or something else, jealousy and envy is going to be on their side once you have started losing more weight, getting healthier, and having a better QoL.

@@lisacaron thank you for that. This is quite true: I had a group that was very boilerplate and the surgeon wouldn't answer the indepth questions. Basic ones but if you asked something out of the "cookbook" then you didn't get an answer and would be labelled. This is why I'm particular about telling people to ask beforehand. If it is just the surgeons' experience, well they discount *our* experiences, why should they, as people of science, not rely on studies or at least some sort of rational more than one persons' experience background?

You can always not tell them and do it. I would ask what their medical reasoning basis for this is. That is usually a good indication about the surgeon and the office. different groups do different things, and all may work.

She is very good. Btw, FB does have a few good groups. May be we should start one here?

You took the first step: you recognized an issue and I'm sure you are going to start looking for answers to do something about it.

We can feel for you. Its ok to whine here. We all have times of "oh my this is too much". You can get thru this. No matter what, the tiny bits we have left make it easier to lose weight.

@@Mel13 that is an excellent response.

Maybe. That's the only thing I could think of.

@@CowgirlJane Could it be a more liberal electorate?