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RickM

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  1. RickM

    Sex

    The most common answer that I see on these forums, and my doc's position on it, is simply "when you feel up to it." Obviously, no swinging from the rafters for a while, and you need to watch your positions, but any that allow for comfortable engagement is fine - there is nothing inherently damaging to your surgery from the consequences of your fun.
  2. I'm a bit late on the uptake on this thread, but my choice in socal would be Dr. Ara Keshisian in Glendale (I believe that he also still works out of Delano, in the Central Valley, if that is any more convenient to Barstow.) He is one of our long-experienced DS surgeons, which means that he has been doing sleeves for a very long time, and usually isn't afraid of the larger or more challenging patients (the DS is a sleeve with added intestinal changes for some malabsorption.) At your size, he will no doubt try to move you into a DS, which wouldn't be a bad thing to consider as it overall shows better results, particularly for high-BMI patients and in regain resistance - it should be something that is on your radar to consider. If you really want to stick with the sleeve, look into Dr. Paul Cirangle in SF, as he has developed some pretty successful protocols for making the sleeve work well with high-BMI patients, so he is probably your best shot at getting where you want to go with just the sleeve (though even with insurance he is on the expensive side with a rather high added program fee.) Good luck on your venture, wherever you decide to go!
  3. Three things that I can think of would be iron anemia, vitamin B12 anemia (our stomach changes may inhibit B12 absorption) or hypoglycemia from the low carb diets that we are on to varying degrees. Hopefully your labs will point you in the right direction.
  4. Yes, things usually improve over time. When my wife went through this ten years ago, it took her the better part of her first year to be free of her diabetes meds. The doc's experience is that generally, the longer one has been under treatment for diabetes, the longer it takes to get off the insulin and/or meds. My wife had been under treatment for about twenty years at that time and her case had degraded about as far as it could go and still be under control by meds - she was just short of being insulin dependent. This is a generalization, and as usual, there will be variations and some outliers who will be walk out of the hospital free off insulin and/or meds. But, she has been free of her diabetes since then (though she had the DS which is a more powerful tool against diabetes than the sleeve or bypass.) On your other concern about drainage, that may or may not be related. I had a bit of lingering drainage from one site which kept my out of the pool an additional week beyond their usual three week limitation for everything to be sealed up, and I am not diabetic; on the other hand, my wife had no problem in this area even though she was. It's a big YMMV thing.
  5. RickM

    Why do we stall?

    Here is a great article on the subject - http://www.dsfacts.com/weight-loss-stall-or-plateau.php Additionally, Water retention can come due to any number of sources - hormonal changes (both TOM for you ladies and and all of us can experience changes from the hormones that have been stored in our fat getting released as we lose weight,) changes in medication or diet (sodium in particular) or changes in our exercise or activity patterns (stressing our muscles requires additional water for the repair/growth/strengthening process) or moderate dehydration which can cause the body to hoard what fluids it has (keep sip, sip, sipping your water, or drinking normally as things heal!)
  6. RickM

    Abs and Gluts and ouch

    The general consensus that I have always heard (and my usual practice,) on this topic is to give your muscles a day of rest in between workouts. The reasoning is that the workout creates micro-tears in the muscle fibers that then need the time to repair themselves (that's how muscle tissue grows and strengthens, not be creating more cells or fibers.) Some who are really into it will alternate days, doing an intense upper body workout one day followed by the lower body the next day.
  7. As with most things involving these surgeries, individual docs will have different views and practices on this point (as will insurance companies!) My doc has had several patients well into their seventies (and most of them had the more complex and invasive DS.) Patient health and prospective outcome seem to be more important than a simple age number - some younger patients may be rejected because of significant health problems that preclude surgery while older ones are fine for it. You find similar considerations and discussions regarding very young patients.
  8. RickM

    Crackers

    I occasionally had a few saltines during the early weeks starting the week of the surgery (part of the doc's plan). They weren't a staple or anything, but they are useful for soaking up excess stomach acid if things feel a bit off. I probably wouldn't do any of the whole grain crackers early on, but saltines break down so fast that they are basically liquid by the time they hit your stomach.
  9. I was on puree, along with liquids and some soft Proteins like eggs and yogurt, in the hospital. Docs vary on their programs based primarily on their own experiences, and a lot of docs are still getting their feet wet with the sleeve after years of doing bypasses and lapbands while others have been doing sleeves for twenty years or more.
  10. I was starting to play with small salads at a month out - typically chopped spinach instead of lettuce for its' better nutritional profile - along with misc. salad veg and some leftover or deli meat for a bit of protein. As you can see, some have problems with salads for a while (particularly the lettuce, it seems,) while others do not - it's a bit YMMV thing. The best suggestion comes from my doc's program which is to try new foods one at a time to test for tolerance before mixing things up. I've been having these salads for lunch most of the time since then and they still provide the majority of my fruit/veg consumption for the day.
  11. RickM

    muscle gain/workout

    If not impossible, it's exceptionally difficult. I lost about 10 lb of lean mass out of the 100+ lb that I lost and that was with a reasonable strength training program along with overall exercise (primarily swimming), much as I had been doing prior to surgery. The 60-80 g of protein that we typically consume (upwards of 100 or so for some guys,) is a basic maintenance level - what we need to maintain our lean mass as opposed to building more. To add, say, another 10lb of lean mass over 6 months or so can require an additional 40-50 g per day in addition to a well developed, consistent strength training program. Whether that can be fit into a caloric deficit that will allow for the substantial weight loss that we need, along with other nutritional requirements that go along with muscle building is, dubious at best. From what I have seen, those that do get real serious about their exercise and conditioning tend to do what building they do after they get to goal and can increase their consumption. For the vast majority of us, the best that we can do is minimize the amount of lean mass that we lose during our loss phase. And, at 5'11", I suspect that 70 g protein is a bit marginal for maintaining your lean mass (despite the normal differences between men and women in their ratios of fat to lean mass); 80-90 g may be better (my target is/was 105 g to maintain the 150+ lb of lean mass that I carry.
  12. RickM

    Refried beans and cheese

    With the small amounts that we are typically eating early on, it doesn't make much difference calorically whether you use low fat or full fat on most things. I usually used low fat cheeses at that time because they usually have a bit more Protein in them which is what we are after at that time (but some applications work better with full fat cheese, particularly when it gets melted.) In maintenance now, I just use the full fat cheeses as the protein difference is insignificant for my current needs. It's mostly a judgement call after reading the labels as to which is better for your needs - for instance, the greek yogurt line that I use most (Trader Joe's) has a full fat one that is very rich, but fairly low in protein (9g per cup with around 260 calories) compared to their nonfat and low fat versions (20-22 g protein per cup and around 100-120 calories) so for me, the much higher protein of the lower fat versions wins out (though today in maintenance I blend in some of the full fat yogurt to boost the fat content while still keeping the protein up on the high side.)
  13. RickM

    Any DS,ers on here

    I'm close - my wife has had a DS for the past 9-10 years, so I've been living with one! It doesn't look like there is a specific DS guy's board, but most guy issues are common across the WLS spectrum, and the DS specific issues aren't generally guy/gal oriented. Besides, you still will have a sleeve, so that counts.
  14. My doc's general practice with the VSG is that if he feels stones in there when he's doing the procedure, then he will take the gallbladder out; otherwise he leaves it in as the risk/reward doesn't warrant removing it. With his DS patients, however, he removes it as a matter of course as, should the gallbladder give trouble later on, he doesn't want another surgeon going in there and getting lost in the altered anatomy in that area - something that's not a problem with the VSG. There are some medications that I have seen some docs prescribe for their WLS patients that is supposed to prevent or minimize such problems - that may be an option to discuss with your surgeon or PCP. I don't know what the specific numbers are, but my impression is that it's something on the order of 5-10% of WLS patients may have these problems, but when reading these forums it may seem like a much more common problem as you don't hear much from those who have had no problems and only hear from the few who do. For the record, I had no gallbladder problems and never took any medication for it. Good luck,
  15. I think that you have answered your own question there - you barely eat, so there is little to come out the other end (but there is still plenty of storage capacity within the colon for what little is going through.) I used to be as regular as clockwork, 15 minutes after rising every day, but even after 3+ years and a relatively generous/normal diet (for sleeve post-ops) of around 2000 calories per day, its an every 2-3 day thing (I guess that a healthier diet is also a lower-residue diet - more gets absorbed and less waste than our previous junk food laced diets!)
  16. Take a look at this book - http://www.amazon.com/Chronic-Cough-Enigma-recognize-neurogenic-ebook/dp/B00HT53JOI/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1411413823&sr=1-1&keywords=chronic+cough I have had chronic cough problems for a couple decades without resolution so looked into it. This doc sites one of the major problems with the medical world in regards to this problem (which can manifest itself as any or all of symptoms such as cough, post nasal drip, hoarseness, burning in throat, etc.) is that it straddles the fence of several medical specialties (GI, ENT, pulmonary,) so none of them go much beyond their anatomical/geographic limits in finding the source of the problem - the GI guys don't go into the airway, the pulmonary guys don't go into the esophagus or larynx, the ENT guys don't go into the esophagus... Her normal treatment is usually some combination of dietary changes and medication with claim that most of the cases that she sees are resolved with some long term dietary changes after a stricter introductory diet and one can usually be weaned off of the meds once the chronic irritation is resolved. I am working her induction diet this month to see if it yields any of the results that she claims can occur from just that step alone before getting into talking to more docs. If nothing else, it's worth the $10 just to learn a bit more about what is going on with that part of our anatomy that is bothering us.
  17. RickM

    Embarrassed to ask but.....

    From what I have seen, the general consensus of hospital nurses is that you at least wait until you get home - they really don't want to have to deal with that!
  18. My first phase was a month long, which included liquids, purees/mushes and soft proteins; after that, anything was fair game as tolerated with the general rule throughout being to test new foods for tolerance one at a time.
  19. In general, your surgeon is correct that insurance won't cover it if you don't have a qualifying BMI (the typical 35/40 depending upon comorbidities) but it never hurts to ask. I have seen, as Domika has experienced, people get the revision when the band is giving problems, so as with reconstructive surgery, it seems to get down to that old "medical necessity" problem. If you can document problems with it, particularly to the extent of it having to be removed, then there is a good chance for it. Beware of policies that limit a person to only one bariatric surgery per lifetime.
  20. I was on purees, etc. from the outset, having things like scrambled eggs and yogurt in the hospital, and progressing into soft proteins such as tuna, as tolerated, later in that first month. Their recommendation as progressing into firmer meats after the first month was to favor dark meat poultry over white meat due to its greater fat and moisture content making it easier to handle early on (I never had much problem with chicken breast, either, though some do for quite a while.
  21. My doc's plan was somewhat similar to what the OP's sounds like - liquids, mushies, purees and soft Proteins as tolerated for the first month progressing to everything else as tolerated after that. I had things like scrambled eggs and yogurt (and pureed lettuce?!? ewww...) in addition to the normal broths and juices in the hospital.
  22. There can be wide variations in how much we can tolerate early on, primarily due to the amount of inflammation in and around the stomach after surgery. When my wife when through this a few years ago, she could barely consume her nominal stomach size in liquids in one sitting, whereas I could put away a seemingly limitless amount of liquid - both quite normal according to the doc. Mushies are a bit more restricted than liquids, but much the same can happen. I generally limited myself to 2-3 oz of non-liquids early on as we don't always have all the feedback of being full in place yet.
  23. Physiologically there is no reason that you can't get your protein from regular food for the typical pre-op diet as long as the carbs are on the low side (assuming that the point of the diet is to improve liver conditions prior to surgery.) As docs have as many reasons for the diets that they impose as there are diets, it's best to go with what your doc wants, or at least discuss deviations with him or his staff (I still have no idea what the purpose of an all-liquid pre-op diet is,)
  24. RickM

    Swimming...okay?!

    Nominally 3 weeks, or when the incisions are sealed; as I still had one that was weeping a bit, it was 4 weeks for me.
  25. Another possibility is that they won't cover it if it is also available over the counter without prescription - many of the PPIs (like Prilosec/omeprazole) are in that situation. But if you are prescribed a dosage that's not available OTC, then it will go thru with the insurance coverage. Prilosec OTC is 20mg so that is often not covered by insurance, but if the doc prescribes the 40mg size, which is a prescription dosage, then it does get covered.

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