Everything posted by clk
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Dreams To Reality!
I wish I could have had this done at twenty, instead of thirty! If you've tried other options and they haven't worked, why wouldn't the sleeve be a great option? The most obvious change is in how you're going to eat, especially immediately post op. But on this journey the most important thing I've learned is how to eat like a normal, healthy person. I now eat what I want, but in moderation. I no longer binge, eat emotionally or restrict myself to compensate for out of control eating habits - things that were ingrained habits and that I wasn't even aware I was doing prior to surgery. I learned how to drop my food issues. My advice? I've been here a while and the reality is you are not going to lose weight every single time you get on the scale. You are going to have times where you don't lose, maybe for weeks at a time. The answer is not to freak out and start exercising frantically or cutting every single carb out of your diet. The answer is to take it easy and let your body lose in it's own time. It will happen. Do not expect to reach goal by a certain date. Rather, expect to reach goal, period. Know that sometimes the journey is shorter but more often, it's longer than we expect. This isn't a race and you don't get a special gold star for finishing faster. Relax and let it happen. With only 15% of your stomach, it's about impossible NOT to lose the majority of your excess weight. Finally, I do not advocate an all-or-nothing approach to anything, especially your diet post op. Research this now and talk to your surgeon about his/her requirements now, so you can get used to the idea. There is no denying that people that shave their carbs down to 50 or less a day lose weight the most quickly. They're also eating unhealthily, have trouble when they don't lose weight every day, and seem to struggle the most when they enter maintenance. Moderation in all things. Whatever you decide to do (and you'll have lots of company if you opt to go super low carb, so no worries there), do it responsibly and try to do the emotional work on what made you heavy in the first place while you're losing. Start tracking your intake now so you get in the habit of eating a well-balanced diet and being aware of what you're putting in your body. Accountability is key. Best of luck! ~Cheri
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Head Hunger
It was hard at first. If you're still on a restricted diet that makes it even harder. In the beginning when I could only eat a few bites of a meal and actually wanted (NEEDED) to eat more I was so incredibly frustrated by commercials and food television. Once you get into eating a more regular diet it should go away. Well, with the exception of that monthly cycle. I could eat paint chips off the wall during the day before my cycle starts if I got hungry enough! It's the only real head hunger I feel now. You're less than a month out. Trust me that this does fade and get easier. And I was a carb junkie prior to surgery, too. Those cravings take a long time to leave the body. You will get there. I'll be honest and suggest that you evaluate what you're eating. If you're severely restricting your carbs (40-50 per day) you might consider allowing yourself an increase to see how you do. If you don't see negative effects on the scale but do notice that you're not feeling denied, well, that's excellent progress. Jumping from pre-op diet to a no-fat, no-carb incredibly strict diet post-op isn't an easy transition mentally or physically. I'd reevaluate if you think this might be part of your issue. This is forever - you chose an irreversible surgery. So expecting yourself to live on a diet forever isn't going to make you a happy person, even if it does get you to goal. Branch out your options as much as possible! Spice things up and see how that helps. I sometimes hit a slump (at 19 months out!) where I get sick of eating Protein first and need to make a change in what I'm eating. Good luck, ~Cheri
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How Long Did Your Longest Stall Last?
We call them stalls here but three weeks is a plateau. In fact, three weeks is the START of plateau. And they're totally normal and break on their own, despite the fact that they drive us insane in the meantime. I stalled out for nine weeks twice. The only thing that made the scale move again was time. More time of doing the right things will keep the weight falling off. I did have periods where I totally fell off - once was early out and I got so sick of restricting my intake down to nothing and seeing slow progress that I totally went offline. I had to change my entire eating habits and realize that I was forcing myself onto a diet. I couldn't live that way so I had to make things more manageable. The good news is that with the sleeve, it's very easy to pick back up and get in the swing of things again. I always feel better, even if I only see tiny results on the scale, when I start my day with my Protein shake and log my food for the day. The easiest way to be sure you're on the right track and to correct any denial about what you're eating is to log everything you put into your mouth. So the first thing is to log religiously for three days. If you see a new trend that would prevent loss, fix it. Sometimes all we really need is to be held accountable for what our behavior. If you're already on the right track with your nutrition, well, the best thing to do is hunker down and wait it out. Sure, getting more active is always a good thing. But don't expect it to work an overnight miracle on the scale or you'll be disappointed. And my body was totally unpredictable about loss - I'd work at it and see nothing for weeks on end and then all of a sudden, with no real change in my life, I'd drop five pounds in three days. In fact, those stalls (plateaus) were a part of my regular loss pattern and it was totally normal for me to lose all of my weight for the month in two weeks but to actually gain three pounds during my cycle and stall out for a week afterward. So, log your food and keep on trying. Put the scale away if it seeing no results first thing in the morning ruins your day. Stay positive. The sleeve will work, it just takes a bit of time. And you'd have to go seriously offline to pack on real pounds post op so don't beat yourself up. ~Cheri
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I Think I'm Eating Too Much
So long as you're eating within your own nutritional guidelines I don't see what the problem is here. We're all different and our surgeons are all different, too. And it does depend 100% on what you're eating. I can eat 2-3 cups of popcorn, but it slides right through. I can eat one egg scrambled with cheese and I'm stuffed. So if it's a cup total of something soft, that's not unheard of or abnormal and I don't think you're in real danger of stretching your sleeve out, either. Sit down to a portion of chicken or tuna and tell me how much you can eat. If you say a cup of that, I'll be amazed. And LoserMama, the weight will likely come off more slowly than if you restricted yourself to 500 calories a day, sure, but it's not like eating such a small amount is actually healthy for you in the long run, anyway. In fact, I'd say I'm actually envious of your capacity, because eating what you need to eat to be healthy person is going to be much easier for you. The same thing goes for all of us - if we eat the right things we're going to see a drop on the scale. And honestly, we're comparing ounces here when most of us consumed pounds of food at a time prior to surgery. If you're not feeling discomfort or pain and not having an issue or failing to lose weight, there isn't a problem. ~Cheri
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Birth Control After Surgery
Sorry, just saw this! I use birth control not to avoid pregnancy but because I have severe endometriosis. To put it bluntly, each monthly cycle was like giving unmedicated birth - back labor, cramps, vomiting and all. It was horrible! Actually birthing children was less painful than my monthly cycle. The Mirena immediately reduced the severity of my periods and after two months, stopped them almost entirely. And for whatever reason, once I had it removed the bad periods haven't come back, even though I used to experience them on Nuva Ring. The way I use birth control is to avoid periods - I go back to back on Nuva Rings to avoid a cycle. I still have short one it's just not debilitating like it would be otherwise. So in my case, Paraguard is a definite no-go. It's a great form of birth control but doesn't release the hormones that I need to help my particular issue. It is actually known to worsen periods, something I definitely don't need. If you're not having trouble losing weight with Mirena in now, you might wait until after surgery to have it removed. Now that I'm at goal I'd definitely put it back in but I did have a few other side effects and I'm not sure if they were the surgery or the Mirena, so I'll probably wait a bit before making a change again. Good luck in any case! ~Cheri
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My Sleeve Abroad
I don't understand the surgery, either. I've heard of gastric plication where they fold and suture the stomach instead of removing it, but I don't know of any procedure that combines the two. I'm a military spouse, too, and I completely understand not having a lot of options for surgery. I flew all the way from Germany to San Diego to use Dr. Aceves because doing it any other way wasn't a real option for me. I knew of no VSG surgeons in Germany that had enough experience to make me comfortable so it seemed my best best. I don't regret my choice one bit! I didn't work, per se, but I did stay at home with two year old twins after my surgery. I was tired and a bit run down for about a week after surgery but I was fine after that except for some occasional discomfort on my side. I didn't even need pain pills after I finished my flights and was back in Germany. So I'd say it's possible for you to do it but you might need to really take it easy when you're not working until you heal. I hope you have a safe surgery and a swift recovery. ~Cheri
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Almost Died Fm Vsg Surgery.
Yes, please share more details. And no offense, but I'd say that rather than nearly dying from VSG surgery, it sounds more like you nearly died from horrible medical treatment. If they couldn't manage to send people to your room you could have died from any complication from any surgery. You should most definitely be warning people away from that hospital and surgeon! I hope that you're healing now and in better shape. ~Cheri
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Birth Control After Surgery
I had to have my Mirena removed post op because I couldn't lose weight with it in! I went back to the nuva ring because Paraguard was not an option for me. I use birth control for endometriosis not because I want to prevent pregnancy and the periods on Paraguard are supposed to be very heavy. Now that I'm at goal I'd put Mirena back in a heartbeat. I didn't gain on it, though. I just couldn't lose anything. It did make me irritable and I'm pretty sure it was related to some of my hair loss but that's a small price to pay for no monthly agony due to the endo. Meh. There are trade-offs in everything. There are a few threads on birth control in the powder Room board that might have info that will help you. A number of us experience issues post op with any form of birth control. I know that a number of ladies say they have hormonal issues after surgery for a while. I've heard theories about it being caused by hormones stored in fat cells but who knows? All I can say is I'd be very choosy with my birth control and I'd choose the absolute lowest possible amount of hormones I feel could get the job done. Good luck. Maybe leave it in and see how your loss goes post op before making a change? ~Cheri
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Whats The Average Weightloss For A Woman After Vsg?
Yes, Ouroborous has it right and gave a great answer (as usual). That said...I know it sounds crazy but I honestly believe that once you take the time limit out of the equation you won't stop losing until you stop really trying. Yes, some of us settle into a spot where our bodies are more resistant to losing and it takes more work and a stricter diet to lose those pounds. Man, that last twenty pounds took me SIX whole months! However, our stomach isn't going to really stretch beyond the one year mark unless we continually overeat and do the wrong things. So I don't see why continuing to lose beyond that first year would be an issue if the sleever was dedicated and stayed on the right track. It took me 17 months to get to goal and if I really wanted to push it I could lose another ten pounds or so. But my body seems happy here and I'm actually happy here so why do it? But it IS possible, and that's what I'm saying. So, yes, go in expecting that 60-70% EWL but know that if you want more, you can achieve it with more time and more effort. And sorry, but at 284 I wouldn't call you "bigger" either, unless you're exceptionally short. There are a number of folks that start right around your size and have fantastic results. I think you'll do just fine. Get rid of the expectation that you'll lose a certain amount each month and it will be a far easier journey (mentally). I lost on average just over 6 pounds per month. It took me a bit longer to get to goal but the reality is that it doesn't matter how long it takes. It matters that I'm here (to stay!) and that it was possible this time, when no other diet I'd tried in more than 15 years had worked. If you keep a healthy outlook and don't expect a miracle or set a time limit on yourself you'll be 100% successful. ~Cheri
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I've Eaten Out Twice This Weekend...
Even if your sleeve is slightly bigger it shouldn't be a real hindrance to your loss. It should still be more than enough restriction to get you to goal, especially if you watch what you eat. There really isn't "slow" loss. I mean, I say I was a "slower" loser all the time, but I'm comparing myself to a minority that reached goal in nine months or so. We had surgery to change our lives, to lose the weight and keep it off for good. Reaching goal in less than a year isn't somehow more satisfying than doing it in, say, 17 months. That's how long it took me. You've lost 36% of the weight you wanted to lose and you've lost what, 16% of that in less than two months, right? Not too shabby! And when you say you can eat more are we talking dense Protein? Say you sit down to a meal of only chicken breast. How much can you eat? I'd measure it and figure it out if I were you. Because I'm willing to bet you have a little more restriction than you think. I can eat a nice 4-5 ounces of food in a meal if I choose to eat Soup, salad and veggies first. Eating protein first fills me up and I don't have room for anything else. So if you focus on eating that way you might see faster results, but I'm sure you'd lose the weight anyway. I love eating out now. I usually order an appetizer or salad to share with the table and share meals with my husband or friends. I'm a really cheap date now but I always feel satisfied. I get a huge variety of foods and never feel stuffed or bloated from overdoing it. You'll be just fine. Congrats on handling eating out well. It freaks a lot of people out, but so long as we're prepared for it to be different than it was before surgery I don't see why it would be an issue. ~Cheri
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5 Weeks Out...still Adjusting
It sounds like you're on the right track, both nutritionally and mentally. I had to eat between 800-900 calories a day to lose and now in maintenance I'm between 1200-1400 a day. Only you are going to know how much you can eat and still lose, so log your food and pay attention. Even the doctor and nutritionist are going off of guidelines that don't consider what works for your particular body. Some folks need more and some need less. Until you heal completely, I wouldn't worry too much in any case. Just focus on pushing liquids, staying hydrated and getting as much Protein as possible. The rest will follow. I'm 19 months out and eating more than one egg scrambled with cheese in a sitting is tough. I do 2-3 ounces of protein if it's fish or chicken but if it's beef I manage even less. I don't have a lot of protein options where I live so I tend to make up the slack with protein coffee or tea in the morning. I like to see my protein levels at 90+ grams a day. Congrats on putting away the scale. It's hard to do. Once you get to the point where your realize that you won't see a loss every time, and that the scale is simply a tool to keep us accountable and NOT a measure of our success you'll be able to weigh daily without driving yourself nuts. Until then it just makes life a rollercoaster. You're doing great so far. Don't stress about the food. I didn't start really hitting my calorie/protein goals until 4-6 months out. ~Cheri
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I Can Eat Anything Now!
I had popcorn for the first time around 3 months, so unless your surgeon told you to avoid it (sounds like he didn't) you should be fine. The only foods that seemed to get "stuck" around that timeframe for me were things like spinach or celery. I had a hard time with lettuce until four months out, too. The issue I have with popcorn is the opposite of getting stuck, actually! It slides, so be careful to measure your portion beforehand. I can eat about 2-3 cups of popcorn now but after that I'm done anyway. I budget it into my meal plan for the day when I do have it, but it doesn't cause me any real problems. I'm surprised you do so well with bread, even thin and toasted breads. I'm 19 months out and a little goes a long way for me! I can eat half a sandwich now, on homemade bread sliced fairly thin. Great job so far - enjoy the new variety in your diet! ~Cheri
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One-Year Surgiversary
Great work! I know you posted recently about feeling alone about being about 90 down around one year. I was 92 down on my one year anniversary and still made goal - just a lot more slowly than I wanted! You've done a really great job and deserve to be proud. It sounds like we had similar weights although you're much taller than me so I bet you look even better at your weight than I do! It did take me 6 months to drop that final 20 pounds but if you hang in there it will happen. I honestly didn't have to try very hard to get there, either. And now that I'm at goal, I find that my body keeps adjusting despite the fact that my weight is the same, so it appears our journey isn't quite over just because we hit our goal weight on the scale. I think I'm going to wind up losing another pant size by summer! In any case, congrats again! You've done a wonderful job. ~Cheri
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8 Months Out
Congrats to you on losing the weight and an unhappy marriage! You've had amazing success so far. Keep it up! ~Cheri
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One Year Out Today! Wow!
Congrats! You've come a really long way and deserve to be proud. Great work! Enjoy your celebration! ~Cheri
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1 Year Surgiversary (Just Doing Some Photo Whoring).
You look great! It took me a bit longer than one year to shed those last twenty pounds, too, so don't get frustrated. Great work!! I just love all of the smiling "after" photos we get to see here. ~Cheri
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Afraid I Wont Get In Enough Protein.
I didn't hit Protein and calorie goals with any real consistency until about 4-6 months out. Your concern right now should be staying hydrated and eating (or shall I say, drinking) as much as you can. Your capacity will increase as you heal completely and you'll find that things get easier. Don't fret - we all worry about this in the early days when we can hardly finish a shake or eat two bites of pureed Beans. ~Cheri
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Last Minute Jitter - Will I Have To Eat Protein Shakes For The Rest Of My Life?
Yes, you can. I'm 19 months out and eat pretty much whatever I want, just in small portions. That said, I have ridiculous restriction and one scrambled egg fills me up. So for me, drinking one Protein coffee or tea each morning is a great way to boost my protein intake to where I like to be (90+ grams a day) without eating all day long. But my situation is a bit different as I'm stranded in Central Asia. When I'm stateside and have access to hundreds of different protein options it's definitely easier to reach my nutritional goals each day. Though honestly, I just don't like to sit down to four heavy meals of meat or eggs a day and drinking a shake is an easier way for me to get there. But if you don't like them, it's not something you're going to have to do beyond the first six to nine months. I'm not going to lie, though. If I had to drink a Protein Shake every single day for the rest of my life and the trade off was being this size, I'd do it in a heartbeat. ~Cheri
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12 Weeks Out Cant Really Eat
Yes, do keep us posted. I'm sorry I don't have advice but I'll be watching for your update until we know you're okay. ~Cheri
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Stall Progress
Yes, congrats on your progress! Some of us just have a longer haul than other folks. It's perfectly okay. I lost in fits and starts the whole time. I'm 5'1.3" and started at 242 and am down to my goal of 135 pounds. After plastics I'll be right where I want to be in the 120s and that's fine with me. I experienced two weeks every month of no loss (and usually had a three pound gain around my cycle, too) and I had two nine weeks stalls on my journey. It took me 17 months to lose 107 pounds, but I did it nice and slow and healthy. If you average it out, I lost just over six pounds a month. You're doing the right things. eggs are impossible for some people. Do you know what Chinese steamed eggs are? It's soft but savory and might be easier on you. Tofu is soft, if you like it. If you can tolerate cottage cheese it's fantastic - until I developed lactose intolerance it was my favorite food post op. And keep pushing shakes! Some folks can give them up and eat enough to get the nutrition they need but some of us can't! I still need them. My restriction is ridiculous (19 months out and one scrambled egg has me stuffed) and I simply cannot sit down and eat four ounces of meat in one sitting. I drink a Protein coffee or tea every morning and it helps me SO much. Keep trying until you find a brand you tolerate well and can enjoy. Vitalady does samples and I found that a huge lifesaver. And as for the other part of your post - trying to conceive. I'm not trying to get too personal, but make sure that both of you are being cleared as healthy. I had half a dozen doctors tell me that the reason my husband and I couldn't conceive was my weight over the course of four years. Nobody thought he'd be the issue because he had kids with his first wife. However, it turns out he's basically clinically sterile. We had to jump into IVF w/ICSI to conceive. Just like in everything else, too many doctors look at our weight and assume it holds the answer to everything. Yes, you are going to be much healthier and yes, likely more fertile, at a healthier weight. But I'd hate for you to slug away for another two years blaming yourself only to discover that it's something else causing the issue! Make sure you get a full workup - HSG, hormone panel, etc. And if your insurance allows it get a more understanding doctor. Preferably a heavier woman! Best of luck to you on both fronts. ~Cheri
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It Was Good, But Should I Feel Bad
Meh. There are worse choices you could make. To me, the most important thing is logging what you eat and staying within your particular set of nutritional guidelines. We're in this for the long haul. We chose an irreversible surgery and asking ourselves to live forever on the Atkins diet is a bit unrealistic. Sure, you could make better choices. At least you're cognizant of that fact. I think knowing that we have the option of eating just about whatever we want is what makes choosing healthy food 90% of the time easy. Feeling deprived and restricted makes us angry, resentful and more likely to binge on slider foods. Good for you - five hours on one sandwich? Remember the old days? I might have eaten two sandwiches, fries and a jamocha shake back before surgery. ~Cheri
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How Long Does Hair Loss Last?
I started around 3-4 months and it was done by about 6 months. However, any time I drop low on my Protein for a long stretch I'll experience a bit more loss than usual, so if you're not diligent about your intake I think it could remain an issue. It's just one more way I'm forced to be accountable for my eating habits. I took Biotin from pre-op and never noticed any difference. I did use Nioxin (since my husband already uses it) but I'm not really sure if it helped me or not, at least as far as stopping the loss. However, I did have very fast regrowth and am pretty sure it's due to the Nioxin. And unlike my husband, who cannot stop using the Nioxin for fear of losing more hair, I was able to stop using it without any adverse effects. Honestly, I think this is just something our bodies go through and I'm not sure than any of the things we try really change the outcome. The shock of surgery followed by a drastically reduced intake and big losses on the scale is just too much for our poor bodies. Luckily it only happens for a short while. But yes, when you're losing huge clumps of hair for weeks on end it can definitely get frightening! ~Cheri
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Before And After Gastric Sleeve Surgery Photos
Say what?! Is this now a twin momma thread?! I went 37 weeks with my two but wasn't surprised when they were only 5 pounds each. Now they're four. It's fantastic and fun and so much easier than it was two years ago! AllForMy4, you sound like my friend - she has a son that's four, 2.5 year old twins and a one year old son. Whenever I think life in my house is crazy I give her a ring! Actually, I only gained 65 pounds with the twins so it was just the serious stretching that got me. I'm short and didn't have a whole lot of room for two babies, even small ones. I gained 97 pounds with my first pregnancy so I figure I did pretty well. Maybe we need to start a twin mommy thread in the women's forum or something... ~Cheri
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Afraid To Tell
Huge milestone - enjoy it! Great work so far, you're more than halfway there! ~Cheri
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Before And After Gastric Sleeve Surgery Photos
No plastics yet, but I can't wait for them! What you don't see is the heavy duty girdle I'm wearing under everything. I have a lot of loose skin. Not only did I lose a bit of weight but I had twins four years ago. They did a number on me and everything has gone south (literally) since I lost the weight. But thank you, compliments are lovely. I am very careful about what I wear and while I'm not exactly hard on myself it's very important to me that I look shapely in my clothes. It's bad enough that I feel uncomfortable naked so there's no way I'm going to feel self-conscious dressed, too! ~Cheri