620to?

This is the point ... I have no clue as to what you're trying to say.

I can't help someone, or commiserate, if I don't understand what one is saying (writing).

c'mon, you really don't know what that means? don't be bully

i'm 4 days post op. i get a pain at the port area when i bend over or roll over on it in bed. for both of us so soon after surgery i think it's completely normal. i'm assuming your pain is brought about by movement not just out of the blue while you are still. i'm expecting another 3-4 weeks of little pains brought about by movement.

depends on what you mean by not like. i mean does nemo really bother you, do goldfish really upset you? you might argue you like fish so much you refuse to eat them. i have complicated relationship with fish.

All I can say is do we really want the government handling one more thing that they will screw up?

Even their website is up and running, and it does not work. The people will be penalized if they do not have healthcare! It will be taken out of your taxes. That is not living in a free country.

And this is something to really ponder over: do you really want the government making life and death decisions on your Mother, Father, Aunt, Uncle, Grandmother, Grandfather, Son or Daughter. "Gee, we're sorry, we don't think she/he needs X treatment since they're gonna die anyways.

There was talk recently of delaying mammograms! But because everyone knows it's necessary, they retracted that. And they are exempt from this healthcare. That's why they were arguing about it. Mr Obama vetoed the bill to include them.

Gee I wonder why that is. Because they know they are screwing the American people!

i have to laugh at the death panel theme. ditzy sarah palin didn't invent the death panel, the insurance companies did. you'd get the news in a letter or over the phone from an operator paid 30-40 k a year to tell you coverage denied, you had a pre existing condition or you reached the limit of your benefits because it was cutting into the profit margin of the insurance company.

you don't think unregulated insurance copanies come between you and what your dr. thinks is best for you based on their profit margin? you are living in strange paranoid world where your fellow citizens want you to die and corporations care whether you live or die. corporations only want more from you than they have to give back. obamacare removes the pre existing liitations the cap on coverage and bases what is covered on best practices not insurance companies profits.

yes, i want the gov't handling big jobs. i believe in america and americans. ask a senior if they want medicare or social security privatized the overwhelming majority say no way. why? because it works.

wow, IT problems on a huge roll out. it happens, it'll get fixed. no one is gettting hurt there is plenty of time to fix it. it's laughable that this is the lifeline the sinking anti obama forces cling to.

not free living in america because you need to take personal responsibility for your health care? i'll bet you rail at people getting food staps and unemployment and disability for not taking responsibility. yet running up astronomical hopital bills with no way to pay them and passing that cost on to everyone else is just a perk of being an american.

wanna see if obamacare will work? look at Massachusetts health care insurance reform law and their success. of course it depends on whether you gauge success as people being more healthy or corporations being unfetered.

nana, i noticed that the people that don't like your facts haven't posted their own. instead they've hid behind the "if it's on the internet...." meme.

obamacare will be as successful as social security and medicare in the years to come.

i love conservatives railing at the idea of personal responsibilty and each person getting coverage. of course we know they'd rail against poor people getting help to pay for medical coverage to make their lives less painful and happier. we knew too they'd be unhappy insurance companies couldn't turn down coverage and reject treatments in order to maintain their profits.

teapartiers failed again to stop obamacare with the shut down. when will they learn?

620to? proud liberal!

our plan is 3 phases in 3 weeks but not necessarily a week each. you don.t advance till you hit your protein/water/bowels goals. then advance one meal at a time. liquids, thicken liquids, purreed foods. after 3 weeks solid food. my surgeon doesn't require a presurgery diet at all. they simply ask you not to go to a buffet the day before surgery.

trytonotletthesmallstuffbotheryou

thank you both. i'm feeling pretty good, wouldn't want to do this more than once a month. lol stings pretty good to bend over, just a tich of ache in shoulder and breathing deep is tough but over all i'm sleeping well, getting housework done, walking, hitting my protein/water goals. off the prescribed pain killers. things are good fingers crossed they stay that way.

just by way of update, i have surgery tomorrow morning. one last meal pre band left, something tasty and chewy!

thanks to everyone here, reading your posts and experiences means going forward i have a pretty good idea on what can happen, what might be expected.

can't say i'm too nervous, more looking forward.

forward to all the good things, non scale and scale victories alike. some of how to handle social outings and recovery. overall think i'm in a pretty good place.

thanks again, take care. michael

had my pre surgery seminar wed, we were given protien, Water, bowel, Vitamin goals. my lingering question is even if i manage to hit my Protein goals will i lose an inordinate aount of lean body mass in the 3 weeks after surgery? i understand in normal circumstances the general consensus is weight loss is 75% fat and 25% lean mass.

if you followed your lbm/fat percentages what did you notice about your percentages in the first 3-4 weeks? were you able to hit your Protein goals?

i swim and lift regularly as well as walking alot, i hate giving up lbm, i know it's gonna happen just don't like it.

thanks everyone for your responses. i understand your thoughts, i still wonder if there is some long term change to metabolic rate after an extended period of very low calories.

for medicare it has to be a medical neccessity. that being the extra skin has repeated infections in the folds etc. private insurance varies. here in vegas i.ve been told mgm covers skin removal for barriatric patients if they hit their goal weight and maintain it for a year, however the copay for barriatric surgery is kind of high up front.

that's great. when i started my exercise in earnest it was at the y. an hour a day in the pool and then added treadmill and weights later. become a regular and people there will be rooting for you.

hi, this isnt brought up as a criticism of anyone. it happens to unbanded people in fact it is why i want one in part, regaining weight. hitting your goal, something in your life changes and we start gaining again. what surprises me is reading about people who are banded that get an unfill and report gaining quickly 20-30 lbs or more.

the apprehension i have a week or so out from getting my band is ridiculous, i'm not only afraid i'll overeat and damage the band but the really disturbing thought is i'll miss being able to over eat. i should mention the flip side of that thought is liberating, being free of that sick feeling and life revolving around food.

so, with the band do habits really change, do some of us too easily revert to overeating when restriction is removed or is there a long term change to metabolism that results in weight gain if we return to eating normal amount of calories?

i can't help with what will work well with the band. i won't get mine for another 9 days. i have been fairly successful dieting without one though and i was like you. never ate breakfast, but that was cause when i did it was the wrong stuff and made me miserable, plus i'd trade a half hour of sleep for making and cleaning up breakfast dishes any day. any way now i eat scambled egg substitute or something with high Protein. staying away from refined carbs and high sugar fruits works best for me.

i'm seven weeks into a plateau myself, we just need to keep our heads in the game. good luck

sounds like your metabolism is copensating for the reduced calories and increased activity. eat something at breakfast it starts your metabolism. your metabolism is far more responsible for calorie burn than the few hundred calories you burn in exercise.. also your body will adapt to a level of exercise after awhile. try changing it up. increased and something different. weight lifting will help increase your metabolism by requiring calories after the exercise is over for repair. you don't have to get crazy with it just enough to tone up you don't have to be a body builder. good luck

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forums are the same the world over regardless of the particular interest. funny to watch the established members rally around their own. would have been way too hard to say." hey sorry for the misunderstanding, stick around for awhile".

hi, i had my pre surgery consult with dr yesterday. i asked him about this type pain as i've read others talk about it. he said a few of his patients have mentioned it in conjunction with over eating. he'd not heard them complain of it in exercise and not as a chronic ongoing pain. i was relieved to hear that, walking, swimming and hiking have become a part of my life and if the band would bring pain to these activities i'd have to seriously reconsider my decision to move forward with surgery.

is this becoming a chronic thing or only occasional?

when people start running down socialized medicine practiced by other developed nations they conveniently forget to mention those populations are healthy than we are. they don't talk about people going bankrupt to save a family member's life. they don't talk about the original death panels run by the insurance companies.

finally they sell america short. if they believed in americans they be willing to accept we could improve upon what other countries do but no they don't believe in america or their fellow americans.

i'm not banded yet but recently i started working more healthy fats into my diet and bam it's made me regular. olive oil in Salad Dressing or sardines or healthy nuts as a snack. again not sure how banded stomachs react to those foods. previously i was eating tons of vegetables and drinking lots of Water was going something like every third day.

just to play devil's advocate. no not really, not his advocate just another pov. you've worked on yourself and your esteem, you're a better person now. having some revenge is sweet but is that who you want to be inside? tell him what you told us in your first post. he get's an answer that might make him a better person, you get to rise above the bitterness driving the revenge. you don't have to deal with him pursuing you online.

this advice falls under the category of Physician heal thyself! not sure i'd be able to follow it myself. take care

i don't have a band yet so i can't contribute on that front' but i would recommend swimming. start slow, make it a habit, add time as you go. if you have ymca in your city that is a good place to start. big people don't really draw attention there if that's an issue for you. in my experience no matter what gym you go to people don't judge, no one as ever said anything remotely derogatory about my weight. in fact after you're around for a while people start rooting for you. good luck.

i'd say try a gym for a month. some people are gym people. i mean paying dues and having somewhere to go motivates them. i'm like that, i was given an elliptical, sold it. bought an used weight machine, don't use it a fraction of the amount i go to the gym. something about having the stuff right in the house makes using it less urgent.

in any case a month at the gym would help you decide which you like better. good luck.

thank you all for your welcome and thoughts. from the few "lay people" even a few with our problem they seem to have trouble understanding why i'd do it when i seem relatively close. i think i'm pretty sound ground on why.

still the complications, even those not from non compliance, make me nervous. i had both knees tka this summer no real complications and great outcomes. i'm wondering exactly how lucky can one guy be?

thanks again, i appreciate your time and like hearing about your success.

take care, michael