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On 9/1/2017 at 11:21 AM, Missy161 said:

I've had a few rough days lately. Emotional eating. Kept the calories under 1000 but blew it by not eating Protein first and eating some totally worthless, empty high sugar foods. I had a krispy cream donut one day and a mcdonalds ice cream cone another. It didn't make me eat more that day but I sure felt awful emotionally- not physically- I had no nausea or anything else. I wish I had. It made me feel like this is going to be a bigger battle than I thought.
I'm still losing- in fact it has been a good couple of weeks as far as weight loss goes.
I know I just have to keep that crap out of my life.


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Hw 223, SW 217 CW 185 GW 135

I know this is an older thread, and you've figured it out by now but, how are you doing? All I can suggest is, fight like hell to resist the empty calories and get all of your Protein and veggies in, every day. I think if you do that, there won't be much room for the junk foods. The way I got around it originally was to grant myself the emotional snack, BUT, only after I got my good foods in for the day. By then, I usually didn't want it any more.

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I feel like I'm following the same path as you gman, I was sleeved in 2014, did well for almost two years, but over the past year I've totally lost focus and I'm regaining. As with you, I got off all meds, rejoiced in my new body after losing over 100 lbs, felt full of energy, enjoyed the experience of tossing the old fat clothes and building a new "normal" sized wardrobe. I also looked forward to my doctor visits as my health improved and got a supporting round of reinforcement as an example of WLS success. But over the year, I've let unhealthy snacking creep back in, as my weight has grown my energy levels have decreased and along with that less enthusiasm for exercise, I've gone up a couple of sizes in clothes, and I have disconnected with my doctors.

As far as the effectiveness of the sleeve, it's still there, I cannot overeat in one sitting, the full factor is still as prominent as it was 3 years ago, but that senseless hunger and desire for food has returned. I've regained about 30- 35 lbs from my min weight, so it's not insurmountable, but getting the ball rolling again has been the problem. There are a lot of changes happening in my life right now, but that was always the excuse with or without the sleeve. So when folks like gman and others come here for reinforcement and help, I feel like a poor example and I'm not sure how I can help. Maybe by exploring our issues in the open, someone will find clues that will guide them back to their path towards goal.

So, I can't offer an answer, but I do have questions, such as, have any of you drifted from your healthcare support system? How important do you think that plays in staying on track and focused? How do you track your intake? Do you track calories as well as nutrition?

I bottomed out last November, did pretty good over the 2015 holidays, but I've gained back 10 lbs since Jan/Feb this year. I've been sloppy about nutrition and it's showing. But I'm still feeling great, the sleeve is still working,

You are very rare in terms of what people are saying. I've seen more gain back than keeping it all off. Various levels of keeping it off though.

When we take a look at forums on various media, the trend appears 1 year out and less people show their photos. When they get to 2 years and over, it tends to be more that they need help because of regain.

I went too low, so it was ok for me to gain some back. Even at a regular weight, I have still had multiple Vitamin & other deficiencies. Its probably more of an issue to find out if the person is healthy vs. what the weight is.

I appreciate your opinion swimbikerun, and btw, congratulations on your weightloss! But if you're basing your conjecture on forum responses, there's a big hole in it. Maybe the reason you don't see posters on in the second year is because they no longer need the support, unless they're having issues again. They may have already posted their pictures and told their stories, no need to look to the forums for support or inspiration. I'm kind of like that, before surgery and the year after, I was on more frequently, asking questions, looking for help, and expressing the positive changes I was going through. But now, I occasionally stop by, offer information or some inspiring experiences to someone who's still on their journey to better health.

Before surgery I tried a lot of diets and went to numerous clinics and weight loss counselors, one of them was Charlie Remington and he advocated a low glycemic diet. I was very successful with him and lost over 50 lbs. in about 6 months, but I couldn't keep it off. One thing he was pretty adamant about was the corn and corn Syrup in foods, as he said, "why do you think they feed cattle corn to fatten them up?" What always stuck with me was that it should have been an aha moment, I stopped a lot of the sugar and lost the weight and felt better, what makes us go back to it? Just like tobacco, industries rely on our addictions.

Before my surgery, my wife and I enjoyed looked forward to our "date night" every Friday, our style is Mom&Pop type places who usually give you a lot of food. Now, about a year and a half later, I still find going out to eat frustrating, it's more about the company and quite a bit less about the food. We go out maybe once a month or every other month, I just don't enjoy it much any more. I try to look at menus online before getting there, I don't usually order off the appetizer menu, mostly high fat, high carbs, and not many Protein choices, I'll order a la carte because it doesn't make sense for me to get a three course meal or salad and bread, I can't eat a whole meal anymore. For me if I'm in the mood for a burger we know of some good places who offer sliders, as far as pastas I don't order out because they give you too much, although I don't mind taking leftovers home. I also eat a lot slower, so at home I can take my time, at a restaurant, although they don't usually rush us, I always figure we're there for the business of eating so I'll get a sandwich that I can eat in a reasonable time and take half home, IDK, maybe I'm a little weird about that. So I prefer to make my own meals and do something else for entertainment. I still enjoy foods and I'm never hungry, I still have my food preferences, but I kind of miss the old days when I really enjoyed restaurants.

But I have absolutely no regrets, I may not enjoy eating out anymore, but I feel incredible, I'm not on meds, my joints aren't constantly in pain, my clothes fit well, I can walk and run, I'm almost 64 years old and I feel young again. Life is great!

Please don't take this as judgemental, only that it seems prudent to explore all non surgical options before resorting to another modification of your body.

Have you worked closely with your nutritionist?

Have you tracked your food intake (using Sparkpeople or Myfitnesspal)?

Do you have any WLS support group meeting in your area?

Do you have the means to work with a trainer at a gym?

Have you thought of working with a psychologist?

Have you talked with your doctor about another surgery?

As most people on here have said, this is only a tool, and sometimes it can be ineffective, but you have lost 100 lbs. so we can safely say it works, so what has changed? I have no idea of your health or your circumstances but a 100 lbs. is a lot of weight, most importantly, how do you feel? Maybe that's where you are or maybe it's how you're handling life, are you happy or sad? Is your problem emotional, or are physical problems holding you back?

As far as additional surgery, I only know what I have found during my research prior to my surgery, I learned about the good and the bad with all WLS options and I chose the sleeve. I actually didn't know there could be such a thing as a re-sleeve, but why not? One of the complications of any sleeve surgery is complications caused by scar tissue, the thicker it is the more chance for complications, additional injury to the same area would increase those risks. I would weigh the potential of the benefit vs. risk very carefully before committing to another sleeve surgery especially because there's no reversing it. You have other options if you go surgical, through lap band and duodonal switch. You had better be very careful to thoroughly research your options. Good luck!

I'm not sure this is the right forum for this question, but the old veterans forum got buried in obscurity under another subforum (Alex- can we do anything to bump it back up?) But my question is for people who have hit or are near goal, what did your weight loss do when you got close? I'm finding mine has stopped, and quite suddenly over the past couple of months, is that normal? I'm not that concerned, maybe this is where I'm supposed to be and for what my calorie intake is vs. the amount of exercise I have time for, this may be it. Just curious if anyone saw a plateau and then started losing again. I'm definitely keeping an eye on it.

Thank you all for the grateful compliments, it means a lot to me, the forum has played a part in my journey and having many anonymous friends walking with me has helped. No matter where you're joining us, let's help one another go as far as we can.

So, my one year surgiversary was in August and I've been thinking of how to Celebrate the success of the past year with my Bariatric Pal friends. What can I add to what hasn't already been said? What were my experiences that can inspire and help newcomers? What were the challenges I faced and overcame? What makes my story so much more special than anyone else's? I came to the conclusion that the answer to all of those questions is, everything and nothing. For all of us the journey is unique and it's our most special accomplishment, but all of our journeys are very familiar and the same for many who came before us. But if I left this post right here, you'd say he lost his enthusiasm along with his weight, so let me tell my story (I promise to keep it short but sweet).

I've been overweight most of my life, I made countless attempts at getting it under control, I'd lose 10- 50 lbs. and slowly lose ground only to gain it all back. Sound familiar? In the meantime life went on, career, marriage, kids, house, bills, you know, right? Being young we feel invincible, yeah I was heavier than fit people but I could handle the weight. Of course, I was more of a spectator than a participant but I always figured I'd take care of it some day. Family, job, good times and bad times,there's always something that took priority over losing just a few pounds. But time rolls on, and occasionally I'd try another perfect weight loss answer, but ultimately it wasn't permanent and it was just another failed attempt. When I hit my fifties I noticed more muscle pulls, back injuries, knees were aching more, out of breath sooner, heart was working harder. So in my mid fifties I was put on meds for elevated blood pressure, shortly after statins for cholesterol. At sixty I was put on a CPAP for sleep apnea, and meds for pre diabetes. It was getting real, I was seeing the damage of carrying all the extra weight, but my doctor was keeping things under control, no worries. Then my hips began failing, I could hardly walk, I needed a cane to get in and out of chairs, I didn't want to move. I went to see an orthopedic doctor and he said the pain was from compressed cartilage caused by my weight, so I asked what we could do, he said "nothing, the damage is done". I think that's when I said enough is enough, I'm destroying my body and my future was heading towards life as a sick and handicapped old man. So I had a serious talk with my PCP, looked at my options, did research and made my decision to go with WLS at 62 years old. On my day of surgery the surgeon asked if I was ready, I said "let's do it", and I never looked back.

Here I am 14 months post surgery, no more meds, no more CPAP, no more diabetes, I walk miles with almost no pain,and otherwise feel fantastic. I'm now doing things at 63 that I wouldn't have tried doing at 53, I went from feeling like an 80 year old to feeling better than I ever remember. I was in size 3XL shirts and pants with waist size of 46", today I can wear large to medium shirts and 34" waist pants, now I can shop off the "normal" racks. I've gone from the sidelines and into the game, I'm stronger and I have more energy, I can walk, run, and climb, and play, I feel young again. I'm still not used to the face that stares back at me in the mirror, there was a heavy guy looking back for the last 40 years or so, now I see a leaner more vibrant looking man, it's strange but I'm getting more used to him.

So that's what makes my journey a special success to me, yours may be similar and it may be different, but it will be your special journey. I'm still learning to live with my sleeve, you can't erase years and years of lifestyle overnight, but after a year it's becoming more normal to listen to my sleeve and pay attention to what and how much I eat. If I can offer any wisdom, its to make your decision and then own it, go ahead and commit 100%. I know a lot of people regret not doing something sooner, but we can't change the past, we can only change the future. Best of luck to you all and thank you for your stories and experiences, I have learned and still learn from them.

I have a few questions, I am 6 months out from surgery and am down 44lbs, but I'm stuck on a plateau! How can I break it? I've been stuck for about 2 months I started at 221 and am at 177 now, how have u or someone you know broken this plateau!

Have you been meeting with your nutritionist? Have you been keeping track of what you've been eating? Are you adding exercise? The sleeve will only do so much, the rest is up to you, you need to work with your surgical team to find the problem and now is the time to tackle it while you have access to this system of support. Good Luck!

I'm kind of surprised no-one has mentioned the three week stall, don't be surprised if it takes a week or two to get the dial moving again. Sounds like you're doing OK, don't sweat it yet, in my experience I hit a stall about every 5-6 weeks.

I am a little over a month lost 32 pounds so far I just cant get much food down so I eat a little now and then later pick at it again and so on been doing that for over 4 days maybe it was because I just started my shakes again I was told by my Doc to stop them for a while. I guess I should just go to my support groups and try not to be hard on my self and keep pushing forward and stay focused. Thank you all for the support and responding to my post

OK, so at a month you're still learning to live with your new stomach, it's going to take some time but I'd still recommend tracking your calories. I tracked calories for the first 2-3 months, although I've been losing weight steadily, I still track once in a while to see what my nutritional distribution is. If you're having confidence issues, definitely take advantage of your support system, now is the time to fix the things that are a problem.

Something is wrong and I am so worried that this wont work because I am not using this tool right. I dont want to be judge just really need support from everyone I am picking more than eating and that is sooooooo wrong I need to get back on track this is definitely a huge change I dont want to fail at it...........feeling sad and discouraged

As the others have said, without a little more detail we don't know where you are in your journey. It's difficult to know how many calories you're eating when you graze, even with WLS, it's till basically calories in and calories out. If it's been a while since your surgery and your having difficulty losing weight, I'd suggest tracking calories using Sparkpeople or MyFitnessPal.

As the others have said, without a little more detail we don't know where you are in your journey. It's difficult to know how many calories you're eating when you graze, even with WLS, it's still basically calories in and calories out. If it's been a while since your surgery and your having difficulty losing weight, I'd suggest tracking calories using Sparkpeople or MyFitnessPal.

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If I may suggest, do your research, look at the pros and cons of all WLS, and this site has a lot of information to pull from. Have a list of questions ready for your meeting with your surgeon, attend a WLS group meeting in your area and talk to the actual patients. It's a big step but it can change your life. Good Luck.

Nutritionist gave some advice, and she is dieting the best possible and watching calories. She is diabetic and insulin dependent so just difficult to keep pre-op weight off. Just not sure how long he'd want to postpone, we really want to get it done this year we have met deductible and insurance has approved... i mean reality is she may lost up to 10 pounds this next 3 weeks if she really could, but thats tough, no where near what he wanted 6 months ago.... just hopeful...i havent read or heard though that a patient would still get the surgery if they didnt lose enough weight, we just want a better idea what to expect

If you've met pre-surgery requirements and been approved by your insurance, then the surgeon is the final roadblock, so you need to talk to them. One piece of advice, this surgery can change your wife's life in both her physical limitations and her health, but it's not going to be easy, the WLS provides you with a tool to use to lose weight, like any tool you have to know how to use it. As all of us know, obesity is a complicated disease, there can be physical causes but there are many more mental causes and that's where a lot of us struggle. Has her surgeon and NUT worked with diabetic patients successfully? Where is she struggling to follow the diet and lose the pre-op weight? Once you have an answer to those two questions, you'll have a place to start from. It can be an amazing journey, help her through it. Good Luck.

I know i have said this before, and don't mean to repeat myself, but the weight is so slow coming off. I was 253.5 on surgery day 8/3. Today is 1 month surgiversary and down 9lbs as of last Thursday, 245lbs, why. Has anyone or know someone that has truly failed at the gastric sleeve.I failed at every other diet, and although this is not a diet, I think I am failing at this too. My clothes feel no different today, then they did last week, and I don't want to freak, so scared to weigh. See doc 9/9. NUT no help. I am getting 70-90 gms of Protein. Not 64oz of Water, just cannot fit it in, but about 48oz. No junk what so ever, totally sticking to the food plan. I am eating between 600-750 calories a day. Does anyone have any ideas, or have been through this. I feel like i am going to miss the honeymoon phase, then what. Thanks for any advice, and for just listening.

STOP!!! Now, take a deep breathe........ relax. You really don't have reason to panic a mere month after surgery unless you are experiencing a medical problem. You're body may still be adjusting from surgery, everyone is different, it sounds like you're doing what you're supposed to,just be patient and keep working with your surgical team. You are going through a lot of changes right now and one of them is the dreaded "three week stall" sometimes it's a week late. I think someone on here explained it one time, but it's just another physiological adjustment to your new eating regime and changes to your diet, it will pass. I would suggest taking a three month wait and see approach, if you feel that you're still struggling with old habits and feelings, start taking advantage of group sessions usually at your local bariatric hospital, or a lot more BP postings, everyone wants to help you succeed, so take advantage of the help. In the meantime relax and enjoy the ride. Good Luck!

BTW- what did they tell you was the length of the "honeymoon phase"?

Hello guys in really interested in the gastric sleeve and been doing some research but haven’t consulted any doctors yet. I’ve been really motivated to do the surgery as one of my best friends just got it recently. If any one could help me answer these questions it’d be greatly appreciated

Dose anyone recommend any surgeons in Tijuana Mex.

Dose anyone recommend any surgeons in Southern California

Insurance companies I should look into before I self pay or finance

Thanks

Well, without knowing your BMI, age, health problems, it's hard to know what would work best for you. We will assume that you have met with your physician and had a conversation about how your weight is effecting your health(?). Under the Affordable Care Act you (should) have coverage, what does it say? Before you get too far into it, I'd look into your insurance first, cost will be your limiting factor, consider things like deductible, and what's covered, including weight loss surgery(WLS). Different insurance companies have different policies regarding WLS. I'd also recommend going to a WLS seminar, usually found at local hospitals, give them a call. Best to know what you're getting into and they can answer many of your questions especially about insurance and financing. Good luck in your decision.

I tried this in another forum and got no responses, this looks more appropriate. This is a question for a friend who saw my success and began his own journey through weight loss surgery. Has anyone else had problems being approved by the insurance company (Aetna)? He was required to have all the tests done and to attend 6 months of supervised diet with a nutritionist, he's done all but with a big problem, he gained weight during the six months. I had been telling him it might be best to begin getting his head into it, I was cutting back on fats and carbs three months before my surgery, so I was in full swing by the time I was recovering. He's morbidly obese and has co-morbidities, so an excellent candidate except getting control of his eating. His PCP has spoken to the insurance company, and they still rejected him, now he's persuing a formal complaint. Can he appeal? Has anyone had any luck fighting them? I don't know what else to offer in advice, hope someone else can.

This is a question for a friend who saw my success and began his own journey through weight loss surgery. Has anyone else had problems being approved by the insurance company (Aetna)? He was required to have all the tests done and to attend 6 months of supervised diet with a nutritionist, he's done all but with a big problem, he gained weight during the six months. I had been telling him it might be best to begin getting his head into it, I was cutting back on fats and carbs three months before my surgery, so I was in full swing by the time I was recovering. He's morbidly obese and has co-morbidities, so an excellent candidate except getting control of his eating. His PCP has spoken to the insurance company, and they still rejected him, now he's persuing a formal complaint. Has anyone had any luck fighting them? I don't know what else to offer in advice, hope someone else can.

First time ever- a couple of coworkers noticed my weight loss and ask how I Did it. What's the magic pill!! No I just had my stomach amputated so I could no longer shove food constantly in my big fat lying face.but I paid for it, so suck my balls

???? Did you enter the wrong gender in your profile?

My balls are much bigger than many people I know and I'm a girl. Mine are so big, I wear 'em on my chest.

OK, I should probably leave this one alone but now I'm intrigued. So....are we talking fortitude, or anatomy?

First time ever- a couple of coworkers noticed my weight loss and ask how I Did it. What's the magic pill!! No I just had my stomach amputated so I could no longer shove food constantly in my big fat lying face.but I paid for it, so suck my balls

???? Did you enter the wrong gender in your profile?